Seabreeze we are actually having a civil discussion in this thread, so quit with the pics.

Hey Steve, does the 5.0 back end jump a little sideways (like my Z) over some bumps or does it track straighter?

"and stang has the red neck slap your sister on the butt and kiss your mother and like it cred"

O ok...

It was in jest. :tup:

Feels pretty similar to the Z over rough roads, which is surprising because you'd expect the live axle to kick you all over the place.

The only sports car I've driven that doesn't do this is the Cayman S. That sucker stays planted. :tup:

Its also a porsche...

Exactly.

I wonder how the new boxster will hold up?

Agree on the Cayman. The 911 is the same way, I drove one a couple of years ago. And the Ford engineers definitely sprinkled some Unicorn Dust on that rear axle over the past few years, it truly is amazing.

Yup, my '03 GT had the "hospital hop" any time I was cornering over rough pavement. :icon18:

+1 Fords live rear has come along way.

Agree...I've found no limitations or compromises yet. My last three cars were the 370Z, '08 Corvette, and a '00 Porsche Boxster. I'm not disappointed with the GT at all...:tup:

And we're not envious! OK, maybe we are....:yum:

Yeah deep down... I envy the engine.. Im happy with my gorgeous Z though. More so when i get my wheels/springs installed today.

Lets be honest there is always someone bigger and badder. Its about being content! lol or not.

F14s look nice. :tup:

Thanks! i agree, should look good! I built my Z in Forza3 to spec heres what she should look like lol.. Sorry back on topic.

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Ummmm. NO.

Not full of assumptions. I have driven both the Z and the Stang 5.0 back to back now. Z handles better and has the FREAKING LOOK AT THAT looks. Five point OHHHHH has the power!!! Great ride...

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG. The Stang can out handle the Cayman. Wow. I have nothing more to say. I am just trying to keep it real.

Better driver's car:
Cayman S over M3
Z over Stang

Greater Power and outright speed car:
M3 over Cayman S
Stang over Z.

That is ALL I have been trying to say. Let's not get all crazy. The Z is not a brute force type of car, the Stang is not a canyon carver. Both cross the line somewhat, but have clear missions.

I cannot wait till my buddy sells his 4.6 and gets the 5.0.

M4A1... ENJOY your Stang Five point OH man....

:rolleyes: Wow you have driven both cars so that makes you the expert on which car handles better? LMFAO!!

I guess track times mean absolutely nothing to you.:shakes head:

Not to take the other guy's side, but performance statistics for the average buyer crack me up. For my purposes, lap times mean jack. Because they were achieved on a professional racing circuit or closed test track by a trained racing/test driver moving at 10/10ths, just thrashing the car around the track. 0-60 times? They achieve that with as perfect a launch as they can get, and how often are you accelerating that hard? skidpad/slalom? Only tell half of the story. 1/4 mile? Top speed? Even Horsepower! All a tad overrated for the avg driver.

To someone looking to track or drag their car, this stuff matters. To John Q. Driver, on public roads, with normal speed limits... What does it all mean, other than "on paper, my winkie's bigger"?

Fast cars are fast cars, man.

If you track your car, then I apologize. Lap times should matter to you.

An you are an expert?

How much HP do the cars listed have in relation to the Cayman and Z? How much more power does the M3 have over the Cayman? How much more power does the Stang have over the Z? THAT is why their track times are better. Geez...

The fact that cars with so much less power can still post such close lap times speak to their handling prowess. I am not saying better track car; I am saying better handler, better drivers car. Again I am forced to LOL!

Regardless of whether he is a average buyer or a track junkie the fact of the matter is the BMW M3 and the 2011 Mustang GT handle just as well as a Cayman S and the 370z if not better around the curves. This guy comes on here acting like he's the subject matter expert on handling of cars after driving 2 cars and stating a definitive fact that one car cannot out handle the other, just cracks me up.

I am by far no expert, All I have to do is look at track times buddy. And LMFAO at your HP explanation for having better track times. If track times were dependent on HP alone then why does the 370z, Cayman always have better track times than a 500HP BMW M5? Shouldn't the M5 be beating them around the track?

While the 370z or Cayman may FEEL like the better handler to you that does not mean it can't be out handled around the track by a Mustang which basically what you were stating as a definitive fact.

No i didn't you said that. Track times are not accurate to jude the best drivers car. That is why the Mazda MX5 spanked a ton of higher end cars in the best driver's test MT did last year. I am only speaking from my experience and how I feel. Which is what everyone is doing also. Even the experts have differing thoughts on cars. In the end, it is all up to your personal liking.

The M3 and the GT do not handle better and are not the better driver's cars. I am sure there are more experts that will say that; however they may be better track cars (depending on the track). I will attest to that myself. That said, I will be tracking my car later, but even at that point, I do not care about lap times, I am in it for driving experience. For me the Z gives me the EXACT experience I want. It is a smaller, wide, and powerful car. The very same reason many BMW M3 guys want the 1 M Coupe. It is smaller and a better handler (in theory); more tossable. Is the Stang a better handler than an RX8? NO, but according to your theory, looking at lap times, it is far superior. And we KNOW it is not.

You are getting out of control and getting all worked up over someone else's thoughts and feelings. I have no idea what types of cars you have driven in the past, nor you I. I just know what I have experienced, and what I was looking for in my next car. I do not care if the Stang was faster than a Z06 at $40k, I would have gotten the Z still (or maybe the 1 m coupe).

Can't we all just get along :D

Obviously some cannot..... Just make sure you still post over here to tell us your 5.0 experiences. CAN'T WAIT to hear them!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am giddy over this new Stang.....

Trying to get my dad to sell his over 600 HP 2002 GT to pick one up, but he is not going for it.....

Oh I'm not going anywhere. I am not very active on the Stang forums. I just go there for tech info and questions.

I am still the president of the Mid-Atlantic 370Z Owner's Club, so I'm sticking around for a long time. :tup::driving:

:wtf2:

and I'll be going to my local Z club meeting tonight.......As long as I have a lift in my garage, they consider me a valuable member of the club...LOL....:tup:

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GREAT! You were the other one Mod.... I was going to ask you if you would be around.

Looking forward to the post guys!!

As long as you guys are having a good discussion, I'll keep this thread open. So, keep the convo civil. As much as I love the Z, I must give proper credit where it's due. This Mustang came a long way!

:iagree: :tup: (PS: I believe your shirt was shipped out today)

Yessss! Can't wait to get muh Z shirts!

M4A1... what mods did you say you were doing? did i miss that?

Awesome :tiphat:

I have done a few spacer installs for my guys and will continue to help out where I can. :tup:

So far I'm planning a drop, exhaust, and intake/tune initially. Down the road I will consider supercharging but 450+ bhp should be enough to keep me satisfied for a while.

FRPP has some suspension kits that are complete with springs, shocks, sways, etc that I may consider. This thing would be a beast with one of those kits.

LOL, the MX5 didn't spank anything except in the balanced handling category. That test was completely subjective.
The GT may not be a better drivers car but it handles just as well as all the cars you stated. Out of all the professional and personal opinions I have read on the 11 mustang GT it is capable of out handling many cars you would think otherwise. All I'm saying is the GT is no slouch.

/end thread

This thread was not about comparing anything so, please no end thread.
AND, no one posting in here EVER said the GT was a slouch. It is the BEST muscle car on the market by far. That has been said the whole time. geez...

ANYWAY. M4A1, I think you need that supercharger!!! Can't you get it from the factory under warranty??? That is what I call manufactor support! We cannot even get a 'sport tune' or oil cooler from Nissan......

I can get the FRPP 525whp blower with a 1-year factory warranty if installed at a dealership. :tup:

I'm going to take my time, though. There will be a bunch of kits available. Right now a low PSI Roush supercharged 5.0 is running 11.2 @ 126 on drag radials. :eek:

Hell, these cars are running 11s with only bolt ons.

Tangent:
I know it's not hip, but I have a man crush on Miatas. Firstly, I've driven one for an extended period, and they are hella fun. They occupy quite an interesting niche, really. Don't buy a Miata with the hopes of ever beating anything in a straight line. That's not why it's there. Do buy a Miata if you want to effortlessly flick through corners at high speeds and feel like you're driving a proper sports car. It won't beat many things around a track, but it is so inexpensive and reliable, that it's actually a great option for a track toy, so it sees a lot of racing action. Laugh at them as much as you like, but put on your automotive bucket list "drive a Miata hard on a windy road". Trust me, it's very good for the soul. :tup:

Miatas are fun. I prefer the older ones.

And the ones with LS1s or 5.0s in them are sick. :D

Mustang 5.slow suck and cant handle for crap!! :) hahaha this thread needs a little love humor