2011 Mustang 5.0 Turbo

Lug · 08-07-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chewonyou

2010 370Z Touring + Sport 6MT

Invoice: $35835

2011 Mustang GT Premium Coupe 6MT Options: HID, Security, 3.73, Brembo Brake Package

Invoice: $34335

The Mustang is already $1500 cheaper than the 370Z. How will lowering the Z's weight by 300lbs be possible while maintaining the same price range? Nissan simply doesn't have a great track record at controlling rising costs, just look at the cost from a 350z to a 370z. Any substantial increase to the price of a 370Z puts it into the Corvette territory where it will be dominated...hands down.

I was not suggesting lowering the weight, but boosting the power to where it's effect would be similar to the 'stangs given their repective weights. Weight is where the Z already has the advantage. As far as costs, the 370Z went up well less than a thousand dollars in all catagories compared to the 2008 350Z.

frost · 08-05-2010, 11:06 PM

I think my anger would be overshadowed by the embarrassment of not looking at a single web page on the car before buying it.

Sibze · 08-05-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

I think my anger would be overshadowed by the embarrassment of not looking at a single web page on the car before buying it.

What would you do if you had just bought an F430 then? Go shoot everyone at the factory?

GZ3 · 08-06-2010, 09:22 AM

lol what a funny read! but i still dont know what all the fuss is about, Am damn happy ford stepped it up with the new 5.0, because let be 100% honest here, before the 5.0 mustangs were basically jokes! With exception of some old school ones and the higher end ones with the hefty price, but other than that everything in between has been garbage. Whats funny to me is that since it has been coming out, mag times have gotten slower and slower since that holy grailed 12.7 by motor trend. theres rumors all over that ford worked with motortrend to help with sales by boosting the number...but like I said, key word: rumors...

m4a1mustang · 08-06-2010, 09:26 AM

You can't go by rag times. Look at what the actual owners are running. I'm sure Modshack and Tin can chime in on those times.

The same thing can be said of the 370. Motor Trend was the only mag to get that 4.6/4.7 0-60 and 13.1 quarter... Everyone else is in the 5.0 second or higher 0-60 range.

GZ3 · 08-06-2010, 09:28 AM

^ yeah very true about mag times, but i only say that because thats what allot of people are basing thier assumptions on what are owners on avaerage getting btw?!

370z TT · 08-06-2010, 10:16 AM

Why not just swap in the 5.0 in the z, the you would have the best of both worlds......

m4a1mustang · 08-06-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 370z TT

Why not just swap in the 5.0 in the z, the you would have the best of both worlds......

I think it might be too wide to fit. If I had the time/money that'd definitely be something I would look into, though. That engine in this car would be awesome.

theDreamer · 08-06-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I think it might be too wide to fit. If I had the time/money that'd definitely be something I would look into, though. That engine in this car would be awesome.

I would just do the new V8 Nissan has created, might not be putting down exactly the same numbers but this way you stay with Nissan and get a V8.

xiven · 08-06-2010, 10:24 AM

i think somebody might try this eventually

m4a1mustang · 08-06-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by xiven

i think somebody might try this eventually

I hope so.

Pharmacist · 08-06-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I think it might be too wide to fit. If I had the time/money that'd definitely be something I would look into, though. That engine in this car would be awesome.

why not just use the v8 from the m56? it's still a nissan and will probably have less compatibility issues with the car. actually, why not just pt the vr38dett engine from a gt-r? i would have thought by now some adventurous pioneer would have tried that already, but apparently not.

shadoquad · 08-06-2010, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

why not just use the v8 from the m56? it's still a nissan and will probably have less compatibility issues with the car. actually, why not just pt the vr38dett engine from a gt-r? i would have thought by now some adventurous pioneer would have tried that already, but apparently not.

Well, batter up!

If I had loads of money to dump into this, even then it would be waiting until my warranty expired.

m4a1mustang · 08-06-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

why not just use the v8 from the m56? it's still a nissan and will probably have less compatibility issues with the car. actually, why not just pt the vr38dett engine from a gt-r? i would have thought by now some adventurous pioneer would have tried that already, but apparently not.

We've talked about the m56 a few times and it could be a good option. Ultimately its personal preference and more importantly fitment. I know the LSX motors will fit in the 350s but not sure if these bigger OHC v8s will fit.

As far as the vr38... that becomes pretty damn expensive, and, well, if you want a v8 its obviously not on the list. Anyone have an idea what a crate vr38dett runs? I'm guessing an arm and a leg.

Pharmacist · 08-06-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

We've talked about the m56 a few times and it could be a good option. Ultimately its personal preference and more importantly fitment. I know the LSX motors will fit in the 350s but not sure if these bigger OHC v8s will fit.

As far as the vr38... that becomes pretty damn expensive, and, well, if you want a v8 its obviously not on the list. Anyone have an idea what a crate vr38dett runs? I'm guessing an arm and a leg.

well, the gtr transmission alone costs 20k, so the engine you can guess will be about 35-40k or so, right? by the time you factor in the cost of all the extra parts and the fees for the mechanics who will do the fitment, i'll be much cheaper just to trade in the z for a gtr. of course, these custom projects are never about good value for the money but more about innovation and creativity and pushing the boundaries of what can be done

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08-05-2010, 11:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	I think my anger would be overshadowed by the embarrassment of not looking at a single web page on the car before buying it.

08-06-2010, 09:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 23	lol what a funny read! but i still dont know what all the fuss is about, Am damn happy ford stepped it up with the new 5.0, because let be 100% honest here, before the 5.0 mustangs were basically jokes! With exception of some old school ones and the higher end ones with the hefty price, but other than that everything in between has been garbage. Whats funny to me is that since it has been coming out, mag times have gotten slower and slower since that holy grailed 12.7 by motor trend. theres rumors all over that ford worked with motortrend to help with sales by boosting the number...but like I said, key word: rumors...

08-06-2010, 09:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 23	^ yeah very true about mag times, but i only say that because thats what allot of people are basing thier assumptions on what are owners on avaerage getting btw?!

08-06-2010, 10:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
370z TT Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 160 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 17	Why not just swap in the 5.0 in the z, the you would have the best of both worlds......

08-06-2010, 10:24 AM	#10 (permalink)
xiven A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Age: 45 Posts: 4,128 Drives: Cookie Monster Rep Power: 295	i think somebody might try this eventually