Nissan 370Z Forum

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)
-   Other Vehicles (http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicles/)
-   -   2011 Mustang 5.0 Turbo (http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicles/23063-2011-mustang-5-0-turbo.html)

mrcardio 08-09-2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 666354)
:facepalm:
Really? Is that why I tell people they should get an oil cooler, upgrade brakes, etc. if hitting the track? I am not in the denial at all, I know those parts on this car would use some TLC from factory to compete with more heavy hitters.

Second, you did not answer my question, I said nothing about oil cooler, LSD, etc. I asked about where you got your information on the Mercedes engine, upgrades to the car (oil cooler standard), etc. You jumped past these points and went on your own tangent of how "sub-par" these parts are without providing a shred of valid evidence to my direct question.

Okay brain child! You obviously have a huge problem with reading comprehension! Do yourself a favor and get someone who can read explain to you exactly what I posted.

theDreamer 08-09-2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 666360)
Okay brain child! You obviously have a huge problem with reading comprehension! Do yourself a favor and get someone who can read explain to you exactly what I posted.

Wow, you now are moving onto insults since your lack of information has been peeled back and shown to be nothing more than a rotten apple with a shiny cover. All you have to do is provide a little bit of information, 5 minutes of your day and you can prove yourself right, but it becomes very hard to do that when the information you seek does not exist.

Sibze 08-09-2010 12:57 PM

O snap!


This thread still open? wow

Sibze 08-09-2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 666360)
Okay brain child! You obviously have a huge problem with reading comprehension! Do yourself a favor and get someone who can read explain to you exactly what I posted.

:supergay:

mrcardio 08-09-2010 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmoothZ (Post 665206)
LOL... the VG and VQ engines are great and reliable engines. I didn't know they were crap. I'm speaking from experience.

Cardio, what do you drive and why?

For one, I didn't say VQ's were "crap" but I wouldn't exactly call them "awesome" either.

What do I drive and why? 08 MS3 GT, 3yrs ago I was in a serious relationship with a woman who had an 8 yr old daughter so I didn't what to purchase a very expensive impractical car. Yeah I could’ve bought a M3 or Porsche Cayman S, etc if I wanted but I was saving for house. Regardless the MS3 isn't a bad car for the money and with a little invested it runs quite well. I don't drag race much but people have been running 13.4@107+ with just intake and AP. It handles well too especially with coil over suspension.

mrcardio 08-09-2010 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 666365)
Wow, you now are moving onto insults since your lack of information has been peeled back and shown to be nothing more than a rotten apple with a shiny cover. All you have to do is provide a little bit of information, 5 minutes of your day and you can prove yourself right, but it becomes very hard to do that when the information you seek does not exist.

Honestly now, do you know how to read? I'm being serious!

flashburn 08-09-2010 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 666365)
Wow, you now are moving onto insults since your lack of information has been peeled back and shown to be nothing more than a rotten apple with a shiny cover. All you have to do is provide a little bit of information, 5 minutes of your day and you can prove yourself right, but it becomes very hard to do that when the information you seek does not exist.

Don't mind him, he is just upset he didn't get some Miata doors.

phelan 08-09-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 666396)
Don't mind him, he is just upset he didn't get some Miata doors.

He probably wants some Miata side mirrors while he's at it :rofl2:

theDreamer 08-09-2010 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 666395)
Honestly now, do you know how to read? I'm being serious!

Read what? Your dribble about the Z car and its engine or the LSD or lack or oil cooler?

Read the part in bold, this is what I have been talking about the entire time. You keep ignoring it other than a single post saying you randomly read it. I contoured with saying that is false information which has been thrown around here time and again as false rumors. I asked for a source, but you began this rant about me "need to read" while ignoring what I was asking which is rather simple.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 660656)
The 11' Mustang GT is roughly the same weight / power as the E92 M3. I think I would still rather have the M3 though regardless of cost. I've read that the next Z will have an upgraded limited slip (apparently the current one is basically crap) come stock with oil cooler and possibly a new motor supplied by Mercedes. Supposedly it will have a lot more torque and be more refined vs. the max-out /trashy VQ.

Everything you have posted about the Z has been false, rumor mill information which was a denied time and again by Nissan directly, or flat out ignorance by a random internet blogger.

phelan 08-09-2010 01:11 PM

theDreamer - here, i did mrcarditroll's homework for him:

Mercedes-Benz-Powered Nissan Z - Car News - RoadandTrack.com

Quote:

If a diesel makes its way into the Z, it will be the 3.0-liter unit from the E350 BlueTEC. This powerplant puts out 211 bhp, making it much less powerful than the gasoline engine in the current Z, but torque is rated at nearly 400 lb.-ft. The hybrid option will most likely be the 3.5-liter V-6 mated with an electric motor—the setup currently in the S400 sedan. As for the possibility of a V-8-powered Z, we feel that it’s far-fetched at this point, but both Mercedes-Benz’s 5.5-liter and Nissan’s 5.6-liter make sense. If Nissan engineers design the next Z to accommodate one of these potent engines, then the Z will have the power-to-weight chops to take on the Chevrolet Corvette. Nissan can even toy with the idea of fitting Mercedes-Benz’s 500-plus-bhp AMG engine, creating a beast that’ll give the GT-R a run for its money.
Can I say...uh...NO THANKS. You're an idiot if you think the Z would be better with an ecotech-esque DIESEL engine, or a hybrid.

and my gut feel tells me that the original Mr. Z will never, ever let his car get a V8 out of the box. the 370Z already goes against his basic tenet of offering a good quality and affordable sports car by its hefty tag (in comparison to previous model Zs). putting a v8 and jacking up the price even more? not going to happen.

mrcardio 08-09-2010 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 665226)
:iagree: the VQ has been on the Ward's magazine best 10 engines every year from 1995 to 2008.

Ward's 10 Best Engines

And? The 2.3L DISI MZR (Mazdaspeed 3/6) has been on Ward's Ten Best since it's been out.

Perfect? Hell no.

theDreamer 08-09-2010 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 666402)
theDreamer - here, i did the troll's homework for him:

Mercedes-Benz-Powered Nissan Z - Car News - RoadandTrack.com



Can I say...uh...NO THANKS.

OMG!!! Was that so hard?

phelan 08-09-2010 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 666407)
OMG!!! Was that so hard?

d00d it was sooooo hard. i had to find a search engine or something, and man, what is this google thing? i mean, wtf is 'google'? and why do people keep telling me to just fking 'google' it?!

mrcardio 08-09-2010 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 666402)
theDreamer - here, i did mrcarditroll's homework for him:

Mercedes-Benz-Powered Nissan Z - Car News - RoadandTrack.com



Can I say...uh...NO THANKS. You're an idiot if you think the Z would be better with an ecotech-esque DIESEL engine, or a hybrid.

Troll???

Oh looky here another butt hurt fanboi!!!

But yes I believe that's what I read, I didn't say it was going to happen for sure. But it would be nice if Nissan did away with the VQ and fixed the other issues mentioned.

mrcardio 08-09-2010 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 666400)
Read what? Your dribble about the Z car and its engine or the LSD or lack or oil cooler?

Read the part in bold, this is what I have been talking about the entire time. You keep ignoring it other than a single post saying you randomly read it. I contoured with saying that is false information which has been thrown around here time and again as false rumors. I asked for a source, but you began this rant about me "need to read" while ignoring what I was asking which is rather simple.



Everything you have posted about the Z has been false, rumor mill information which was a denied time and again by Nissan directly, or flat out ignorance by a random internet blogger.

You ramble much???

Dear God! I said for you to look it up and that it should be EASY to find.

It seems as though you're absolutely terrified at the idea of Nissan actually improving faults in your precious 370z.

theDreamer 08-09-2010 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 666413)
Troll???

Oh looky here another butt hurt fanboi!!!

But yes I believe that's what I read, I didn't say it was going to happen for sure. But it would be nice if Nissan did away with the VQ and fixed the other issues mentioned.

What issues?
I have zero problems, brakes are perfect, no oil heating issues, and the LSD is fantastic compared to no other. Maybe you need to start to drive your Z more...wait you do own a 370z right?

phelan 08-09-2010 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 666413)
Troll???

Oh looky here another butt hurt fanboi!!!

But yes I believe that's what I read, I didn't say it was going to happen for sure. But it would be nice if Nissan did away with the VQ and fixed the other issues mentioned.

Sorry I tend to give, not receive. If that's the way you go though, I hear frost and Caravan are offering specials.

Oh, and I still don't see anything about the upgraded LSD, or an included oil cooler.

Anyway, Dreamer says I need to get back to my pillows, so back I go :tup:

BTW - Mr. MS3, you did drive a 370 before you wrote all this drivel...

right? :ugh2:

theDreamer 08-09-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 666414)
You ramble much???

Dear God! I said for you to look it up and that it should be EASY to find.

The point is for you to provide the information which you are writing.
I can randomly write information about the MS3 or new BMW 1 series M car, but no one will believe me unless I post an article backing me up.
You provided no information to back your claim, all you did was tell others to look it up and find the information you are writing.

flashburn 08-09-2010 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 666415)
What issues?
I have zero problems, brakes are perfect, no oil heating issues, and the LSD is fantastic compared to no other. Maybe you need to start to drive your Z more...wait you do own a 370z right?

Nope, he drives to work on one of these:
http://communitiesonline.homestead.c...es/troll_2.jpg

mrcardio 08-09-2010 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 666402)
theDreamer - here, i did mrcarditroll's homework for him:

Mercedes-Benz-Powered Nissan Z - Car News - RoadandTrack.com



Can I say...uh...NO THANKS. You're an idiot if you think the Z would be better with an ecotech-esque DIESEL engine, or a hybrid.

and my gut feel tells me that the original Mr. Z will never, ever let his car get a V8 out of the box. the 370Z already goes against his basic tenet of offering a good quality and affordable sports car by its hefty tag (in comparison to previous model Zs). putting a v8 and jacking up the price even more? not going to happen.

Okay brain, who said "I" wanted that specific engine in the 370z??? Are you okay? I just stated that Nissan is apparently looking at other engine options.

Why do I feel like I'm arguing with 18 yr olds?

phelan 08-09-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 666426)
Okay brain, who said "I" wanted that specific engine in the 370z??? Are you okay? I just stated that Nissan is apparently looking at other engine options.

Why do I feel like I'm arguing with 18 yr olds?

Let's try this again, but first, some groundwork. Let's open up the dictionary, shall we, and look up the word 'if'.

Quote:

Main Entry: if
Pronunciation: \ˈif, əf\
Function: conjunction
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English gif; akin to Old High German ibu if
Date: before 12th century

1 a : in the event that b : allowing that c : on the assumption that d : on condition that
2 : whether <asked if the mail had come> <I doubt if I'll pass the course>
3 —used as a function word to introduce an exclamation expressing a wish <if it would only rain>
4 : even though : although perhaps <an interesting if untenable argument>
5 : and perhaps not even <few if any changes are expected> —often used with not <difficult if not impossible>

— if anything : on the contrary even : perhaps even <if anything, you ought to apologize>
Now note that I said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 666402)
Can I say...uh...NO THANKS. You're an idiot if you think the Z would be better with an ecotech-esque DIESEL engine, or a hybrid.

Did I say this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 666402)
Can I say...uh...NO THANKS. mrcardio, you sir are a (edited because I'm being mean) because you want these engines.

NO SIR I DID NOT. So if you do not want that engine in the Z, whoop de doo.

Try reading a bit, next time.

theDreamer 08-09-2010 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 666433)
Let's try this again, but first, some groundwork.

Try reading a bit, next time.

:ohsnap1:
You just go :owned: Har har har.....rabble rabble rabble....:stirthepot:

mrcardio 08-09-2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 666419)
The point is for you to provide the information which you are writing.
I can randomly write information about the MS3 or new BMW 1 series M car, but no one will believe me unless I post an article backing me up.
You provided no information to back your claim, all you did was tell others to look it up and find the information you are writing.

No, if you were able to comprehend the written English language you'd understand exactly what I meant. To break it down "barney style" for you: I said I don't remember exactly where I found the information at this time but will post if I run across again. Then I said if you look / research you should be able to find it. Do you still want to play stupid with me?

Read slowly so you can process

theDreamer 08-09-2010 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 666438)
No, if you were able to comprehend the written English langue you'd understand exactly what I meant. To break it down "barney style" for you I'll break it down for ya. I said I don't remember exactly where I found the information at this time but will post if I run across again. Then I said if you look / research you should be able to find it. Do you still want to play stupid with me?

Read slowly so you can process

Stop using such big words like..."langue"
It really hurts my head. :wtf2:

GZ3 08-09-2010 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 665178)
Believe it or not the 370z isn't perfect hence the reason I'm holding off to see what happens within the next yr or so.

sand up my clit!?:bowrofl::bowrofl::roflpuke2: Your the one that cant keep his little girlie emotions in check, I was bieng as civil and reasonable as possible but you obviosly have some sort of interpretation problem to where you taking offense and getting butt hurt. If this quoted statement BY YOU isnt suggestive of you saying you are waiting for a perfect car, then i dont know what it. Do you even know how to carry a civil arguement with resorting to insults to make up for your lack of capacity?? your a joke:icon18:

mrcardio 08-09-2010 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 666417)
Sorry I tend to give, not receive. If that's the way you go though, I hear frost and Caravan are offering specials.

Oh, and I still don't see anything about the upgraded LSD, or an included oil cooler.

Anyway, Dreamer says I need to get back to my pillows, so back I go :tup:

BTW - Mr. MS3, you did drive a 370 before you wrote all this drivel...

right? :ugh2:

Did I say all the information is in the same article, etc??? Holy **** some of you folks are unbelievable! You actually think I'm just making **** up?? You think the 370z can't be improved?? Personally I think you're just afraid you're going to be driving an inferior car real soon. You’re going to have to learn to live with the facts that automobiles / technology improves over time. The bottom line is that I don’t just type **** for ***** and giggles. For you or anyone else to assume that I am just goes farther to prove how right I am.

mrcardio 08-09-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 666443)
sand up my clit!?:bowrofl::bowrofl::roflpuke2: Your the one that cant keep his little girlie emotions in check, I was bieng as civil and reasonable as possible but you obviosly have some sort of interpretation problem to where you taking offense and getting butt hurt. If this quoted statement BY YOU isnt suggestive of you saying you are waiting for a perfect car, then i dont know what it. Do you even know how to carry a civil arguement with resorting to insults to make up for your lack of capacity?? your a joke:icon18:

Lack of capacity? Really? I'm walking all over you sir that's the funny thing.

And no, my statement in no way implied I was waiting for something "perfect". You making that assumption just prove you lack any sort of capacity to carry on a conversation with me. What is your age btw? 18-19?

flashburn 08-09-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 666460)
Did I say all the information is in the same article, etc??? Holy **** some of you folks are unbelievable! You actually think I'm just making **** up?? You think the 370z can't be improved?? Personally I think you're just afraid you're going to be driving an inferior car real soon. You’re going to have to learn to live with the facts that automobiles / technology improves over time. The bottom line is that I don’t just type **** for ***** and giggles. For you or anyone else to assume that I am just goes farther to prove how right I am.

:wtf2:

GZ3 08-09-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 666467)
Lack of capacity? Really? I'm walking all over you sir that's the funny thing.

And no, my statement in no way implied I was waiting for something "perfect". You making that assumption just prove you lack any sort of capacity to carry on a conversation with me.

haha, walking all over what?? please explain, All i ever said was the VHR is an awesome engine. If you extract anymore out of that, thats your interpretation issues again. I said nothing to flare your emotions out of control so just relax...no one on here, and i MEAN NO ONE, said the VHR is the end all motor. Get a grip buddy...your arguing things that are even being adressed

theDreamer 08-09-2010 01:51 PM

http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...ani/typing.gif

mrcardio 08-09-2010 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 666442)
Stop using such big words like..."langue"
It really hurts my head. :wtf2:

OMG OH NO! I made a typo!!!

*Language

mrcardio 08-09-2010 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 666486)
haha, walking all over what?? please explain, All i ever said was the VHR is an awesome engine. If you extract anymore out of that, thats your interpretation issues again. I said nothing to flare your emotions out of control so just relax...no one on here, and i MEAN NO ONE, said the VHR is the end all motor. Get a grip buddy...your arguing things that are even being adressed

You're lost in space.

Sibze 08-09-2010 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 666513)
You're lost in space.

mrcardio you are making me want to http://www.the370z.com/members/frost...49-suicide.gif

m4a1mustang 08-09-2010 02:08 PM

I don't know why we are even bothering with all this discussion of what's better and what's not. It's pretty damn obvious that all past and future technology is obsolete, so just quit now. That's right, I said it. The future doesn't matter. You ever heard the saying that you can't improve perfection?

Sorry guys, but give it up. It's the truth, OK?

The 2004.5 350Z is F-L-A-W-L-E-S-S.

End of story.

m4a1mustang 08-09-2010 02:10 PM

And unfortunately we just have to accept that we are inferior, because God only bestowed the 2004.5 350Z upon one good Christian, and he's not here anymore ok? You drove him away with your sins.

Now he's got the only example of automotive perfection tucked away in a far away place for none of us ever to see. So just get over it. Buy your Zs, your Mazdaspeed 3's, but know that nothing you can get now will ever be as good as the 2004.5 350Z.

theDreamer 08-09-2010 02:10 PM

So how about that 5.0 Turbo Mustang?

phelan 08-09-2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 666542)
So how about that 5.0 Turbo Mustang?

The prospect looks pretty good, I think. Performance-wise, the Mustang is the best "new muscle" there is. Lots of support = turbo will be ridiculous

And I'd still rather a Challenger :rofl2:

Oh, and cardio I was googling for news clips on whatever other upgrades you threw out there. No dice yet, son. How about you do us a favor and find the article, since you're apparently much more capable than a simpleton like me.

theDreamer 08-09-2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 666581)
Looks pretty good, I think. Performance-wise, the Mustang is the best "new muscle" there is.

And I'd still rather a Challenger :rofl2:

Why? Because you like slow and fat things? Is that why you only get pillows, because they are slow and usually fat....:stirthepot:

mrcardio 08-09-2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 666415)
What issues?
I have zero problems, brakes are perfect, no oil heating issues, and the LSD is fantastic compared to no other. Maybe you need to start to drive your Z more...wait you do own a 370z right?

One of my friends traded his EVO 9 in for one and yes I've driven it plenty of times (You don't have to "own" one to see the faults) Personally I liked his EVO 9 better but his was becoming too costly to maintain. If you have zero issues with the car you probably drive like a little girl, no offense. The LSD is fantastic compared to no other? LMFAO!! You have a lot to learn. No oil heating issues? Again, LMFAO! Yeah sure if you don't drive very hard and you live up north you'll be alright but that doesn't work for me. The Brakes aren't bad; really just need better pads IMO. Yes, you can be this stuff and have it installed but it would be nice if it came out of the box ready to go. Lastly, I think a new engine should be in order; one that makes more torque (~ 300-320@ 3300-5500rpms) and less truck like in the upper rpms. Over all, it’s a great bang for the buck as is but it has a lot more potential. This can be said about many cars.

Sibze 08-09-2010 02:18 PM

http://www.the370z.com/members/frost...6049-fling.gif


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:36 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2