2012 Camaro Z28

frost

Anyway, have to get some school work done. I personally believe the f-bods were refreshed in the 4th gen model, as opposed to "redesigned." BUT you can't say that's the reason it suffered in comparison to the mustang when the f-bods looked like completely redesigned cars with their (1998) refresh as opposed to the mustang that looked the same it's entire 4th gen run with the exception of what? A longer fake scoop on the side?

I'm sticking to my original story, which at least I'm basing off of something, which is that GM pushed the f-bod twins SO close to the vette, that they basically had three of the same car, jut a seat #difference. This is opposed to fords more simplistic approach of making all their performance cars a single car (mustang) and just having many variations of it. That simplistic approach means less variation and more revenue.

MMC Racing

Camaros were heavier, less powerful, and didn't keep up with a C5 in any category. So I'm not sure what you are basing your assumptions from, but it doesn't appear to be facts.

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frost

Same ls1 engine detuned to 25 less hp, slightly heavier, but with 4 seats. Yeah, people wouldn't cross shop those cars at all. Just like people don't cross shop the Z and the G, right?


And by the way, I told you what I was basing my assumptions off of, what the magazines were saying at the time, which I bothered to read since I actually had an f-bod.

MMC Racing

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Chris@FsP

Refresh = 2003-2005 350Z to 2006-2008 350Z. Same chassis; different engines and slightly different interior/exterior updates.

Re-design = 2003-2008 350Z to 2009 370Z. Completely different chassis, interior, exterior, as well as motor.

My .02

Lemers

A redesign is when the engineers start from scratch ( doesn't mean that they don't use platforms that are already availible) a facelift is when the engineers "touch up" a current modle.

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m4a1mustang

It wasn't a performance thing at all. The Camaro/Firebird just didn't have the appeal of the Mustang. They were also a bit more expensive.

But I can tell you this: EVERYONE knows what a Mustang is and there are plenty of people out there that don't know the whole "Camaro/Firebird" thing.

The Mustang is an American icon. Why do you think so many people buy the V6 models? They just want a MUSTANG!

One of the most successful brands ever.

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