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iff2mastamatt 07-08-2010 01:02 AM

Toyota FT-86/FR-S
 
I know it's a concept car, but the ft-86's design reminds me of the Z. I've also heard it will be in the $23,000 range (probably a 4 cyl. though). I hope Toyota keeps the design and doesn't make drastic production changes like the Honda CR-Z. Won't be available until 2013, but if it has a v6, count me in!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGY2gJU9eBA&feature=player_embedded#!

Here is the Press release of the 3rd (Scion) Concept:

YouTube - Scion FR-S Concept Official Video Clip

YouTube - Scion FR-S Concept (extended)

(For some reason the video won't embed)

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5...tachmentjo.jpg
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...2&d=1298964697
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...7&d=1305719133
http://fsv-image.autoc-one.jp/images/907763/011_o.jpg



????TOYOTA 86 TEST@Fuji????86??????? - YouTube

Boost_lee 07-08-2010 01:06 AM

there's something about this car that just doesn't "sell" me. Interested in seeing the final production model though...

iff2mastamatt 07-08-2010 01:09 AM

It needs a spoiler too.

fullmonty 07-08-2010 01:16 AM

Those rims scream 1995

Jordo! 07-08-2010 04:58 AM

There's a lot of interest in this car. Lightweight, boxer motor, designed to handle and brake well (and according to the chief engineers for the project, to drift -- not that I care about that) and at a budget -- well, originally. Looks liek the production model will cost closer to 30K than 20K.

I agree, it looks a LOT like a mini-Zed.

http://www.the370z.com/members/jordo...vs-ft-86-2.jpg

Toyota has confirmed that they are seriously considering a turbo version (search for FT-86 G-sport concept).

It should be a pretty bad *** little car, especially if they offer a boosted version. This is the only other car I am interested in, and while we're on the subject, part of what made me decide to jump on the Z was that a rumor was floating around that the FT-86 production model was going to be delayed another two years.. supposedly that has been disconfirmed.

dorothykinder 07-08-2010 06:54 AM

Liked the first one in the Pic. Waiting !!!:ugh2:

Zaggeron 07-08-2010 07:53 AM

I'm interested in this as well as the future G25 as a replacement for my current Mazda3 DD. I'm looking for something light and easy to drive with decent looks and a little pep. Not really looking for the same sort of performance I get with my Z

PapoZalsa 07-08-2010 10:52 AM

I don't think the car looks that bad!

My first new car was a 1986 Toyota Corolla SR-5, so I might be bias.

BTW, this is like the 3rd Thread about the FT-86

Lug 07-08-2010 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 611716)
I agree, it looks a LOT like a mini-Zed.

http://www.the370z.com/members/jordo...vs-ft-86-2.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/gtr-side.jpg
http://image.hondatuningmagazine.com...ype_s+side.jpg

It's as if a GT-R and a 370Z had a baby but the GT-R also cheated on the side with a RSX. :D

Cmike2780 07-08-2010 12:47 PM

That GTR is such a whore

Jordo! 07-08-2010 01:19 PM

Actually, yeah. The roof line and front fender are much closer to the GT-R. Well spotted. Hadn't noticed that before.

No offical name yet, but other than FR-S or just "86", Toyota has said they are considering "Celica". That would definitely fit.

280z/300zx 07-08-2010 09:23 PM

I'll take the subaru version over the toyota version. Search for info on it and you'll see it's a much better car, at least in concept form. The talk was that toyota would get the n/a 4cyl RWD while subaru got the turbo charged AWD version. Subaru was saying the power would be around 330 with a price of about 30k, basically right bellow the STI 4 door price. Also the subaru concept looked far more aggressive.

mrcardio 07-08-2010 09:52 PM

Here are some photos that do the FT-86 better justice. I actually think it looks better than the Z and if it resembles anything it would be a GTR but smaller obviously. I like how it doesn't so much flaunt "hey look at me I'm fast!!" but instead it’s a bit understated. If it ends up driving as good as it looks this might be my next ride. It sounds like there will be a 4cyl NA entry level model with 150+hp that will start at ~ 23k and a Turbo 4 or NA 6cyl with 250+hp that will start at around 27-28k+. That doesn’t sound like a lot of power but at the right weight it should be more than adequate. It might not end up being all that quick but test track numbers are only part of the equation. Look at the Mazda Miata, slow as balls but really fun to drive.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1271862905
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4210/gt5pic2.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7725/gt5pic3.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2315/gt5pic15.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2323/gt5pic16.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2766/gt5pic11.jpg
http://images.thecarconnection.com/l...00230227_l.jpg
http://images.thecarconnection.com/l...00230228_l.jpg
http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...mb-717x477.jpg

Jordo! 07-08-2010 11:43 PM

I'm torn on the looks -- I love them both.

Although, I do like the more compact dimensions and lighter weight of the FT-86...

If the production model looks that good, and they offer a version that is close in performance to the Z, that will be my next car.

Anatoray 07-08-2010 11:54 PM

I can't believe no one's brought up the fact that it's basically a smaller LFA in terms of looks >.>

wolf370z 07-09-2010 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anatoray (Post 613382)
I can't believe no one's brought up the fact that it's basically a smaller LFA in terms of looks >.>

I thought the same thing... hey it's an LF-A that's actually affordable and makes sense in this market! :ugh2:

PapoZalsa 07-11-2010 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 613161)
I'll take the subaru version over the toyota version. Search for info on it and you'll see it's a much better car, at least in concept form. The talk was that toyota would get the n/a 4cyl RWD while subaru got the turbo charged AWD version. Subaru was saying the power would be around 330 with a price of about 30k, basically right bellow the STI 4 door price. Also the subaru concept looked far more aggressive.

If the power and price is close to that and the looks are closer to the concept car I'm going back to Toyota/Subaru.

Jordo! 07-11-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Anatoray (Post 613382)
I can't believe no one's brought up the fact that it's basically a smaller LFA in terms of looks >.>

I think both are based on the FT-HS.

PapoZalsa 07-11-2010 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 618464)
I think both are based on the FT-HS.

^^ That one looks FUGLY!!!!!! :shakes head:

iff2mastamatt 07-14-2010 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf370z (Post 613394)
I thought the same thing... hey it's an LF-A that's actually affordable and makes sense in this market! :ugh2:

:iagree: I was thinking the same thing, except it would look even better with the tri-exhaust.

FuszNissan 07-14-2010 09:47 AM

Reminds me of an RX-8

Red370 07-14-2010 12:36 PM

dont like.

kenchan 07-14-2010 12:36 PM

they should call it a corolla coupe.

Red370 07-14-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 623567)
they should call it a corolla coupe.

:icon18:

iff2mastamatt 07-28-2010 06:39 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...8&d=1255486991

Someone posted this size comparison on ft86club's forum, I thought it was interesting. I just don't get how you can fit four people in a car smaller than the Z.

Lemers 07-28-2010 07:22 PM

It looks good but I'm still not giving up my Z not until maybe 2020

mrcardio 07-28-2010 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 623567)
they should call it a corolla coupe.

Show us a corolla that looks anything like it?

It looks NOTHING like a corolla

Lemers 07-29-2010 02:59 AM

No they should not call it a corolla or cellica. Both are front wheel drive cars. This is a RWD car. Those names will not do it justice.

Jordo! 07-29-2010 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 650154)
No they should not call it a corolla or cellica. Both are front wheel drive cars. This is a RWD car. Those names will not do it justice.

Both used to be RWD...

Lemers 07-29-2010 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 650202)
Both used to be RWD...

Pre 1985

Red370 07-29-2010 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 649769)
Show us a corolla that looks anything like it?

It looks NOTHING like a corolla

you're absolutely correct, it looks like chit. ;)

Chriz 07-29-2010 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 649769)
Show us a corolla that looks anything like it?

It looks NOTHING like a corolla

Its an homage to an older corolla :facepalm:

Jordo! 07-29-2010 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 650503)
Pre 1985

Cars go through many transformations over the years, some good, some bad.

Don't forget the many hideous and underpowered variants of the Mustang that have appeared over the years... the name is still a good one.

Although this is a hotly debated issue, Celica would be a really appropriate name for this car -- the Celica was Toyota's first true production sports car, and even the most recent variants have had succesful runs racing in Europe and Asia.

And of course, there is the much beloved GT-4 (yes, not RWD, but still a proper sporting car, albeit for rally).

All the Initial-D fans want this car to be called the Trueno... :rolleyes:

Eh, I prefer Celica... but we'll have to wait and see.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chriz (Post 650721)
Its an homage to an older corolla :facepalm:

"Spiritual sucessor" ;)

Lemers 07-29-2010 04:38 PM

Well looks like the FT-86 or whatever you want to call it is being pushed back from 2011 to 2013. Toyota is putting it on hold to see how the CR-Z goes and might decide to give it a hybrid engine?

Red370 07-29-2010 04:47 PM

im curious if Nissan is still going to go through with the 240 concept...the concept pictures look pretty bland..

so far, two predictions:

http://photos.leftlanenews.com/photo...40sx-1_620.jpg

http://www.bruneistars.com/Magazine/...693F/image.png

http://www.bruneistars.com/Magazine/...3F/image_5.png

Jordo! 07-29-2010 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 651121)
Well looks like the FT-86 or whatever you want to call it is being pushed back from 2011 to 2013. Toyota is putting it on hold to see how the CR-Z goes and might decide to give it a hybrid engine?

That rumor was recently debunked -- the production model is set to be on sale for November 2011.

News Scoop – FT-86 is on time : 7Tune.com

Lemers 07-29-2010 04:58 PM

2011 sales they must be testing the production version of the car. And I havent seen anything other than the concept. No spy photos nothing. I guess we'll see.

Jordo! 07-29-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 651141)
2011 sales they must be testing the production version of the car. And I havent seen anything other than the concept. No spy photos nothing. I guess we'll see.

According to that article the production car will differ only slightly from the concept.

Take a look at the last gen celica -- it was almost identical to the XYR concept.

I sure hope the make a turbo version!!!! :excited:

LiquidZ 07-29-2010 06:00 PM

Can't wait to hear about the recalls on this car in a few years...







:stirthepot:

Cmike2780 07-29-2010 06:11 PM

Surprised no one has mentioned bringing back the Supra nameplate. Although a lot of this concept would have to change to justify the name.


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