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Lemers 07-29-2010 07:38 PM

I thought the rumor was that the "next supra" was going to be the new Lexus. That never panned out.

theDreamer 07-29-2010 08:00 PM

The supra name needs to be a car above the Z in power/performance/quality.
This is a great car that is a replaced for Nissan's 240sx in a modern world, until Nissan brings back the 240sx. :tup:

Jordo! 07-29-2010 08:04 PM

Based on days of yore, a Supra would be a top of the line Celica with a 6 cyl engine and would be a direct competitor for the Z car.

All of that can happen with the FT-86...

theDreamer 07-29-2010 08:07 PM

Probably not, because from the get go the design around this car was the Subaru engine.
I could see this being a stepping stone for Toyota back into the game and if this does well the new Supra might be back on the table.

Also, the turbo version will be in the Subaru car, Toyota is getting the NA car.

Lemers 07-29-2010 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 651486)
Based on days of yore, a Supra would be a top of the line Celica with a 6 cyl engine and would be a direct competitor for the Z car.

All of that can happen with the FT-86...

Again your going back to the '80s the celica and supra have long been separate cars lines on separate platforms and separate model directions. When the supra split from the celica it became Toyota's top sports car. On Toyota has Lexus and Lexus has the FLA. If toyota does make a new supera I agree it will go with a v6, but it will be priced to compete more with the vette so it maybe a turbo like they used in the past.

Jordo! 07-30-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 651788)
Again your going back to the '80s the celica and supra have long been separate cars lines on separate platforms and separate model directions. When the supra split from the celica it became Toyota's top sports car. On Toyota has Lexus and Lexus has the FLA. If toyota does make a new supera I agree it will go with a v6, but it will be priced to compete more with the vette so it maybe a turbo like they used in the past.

The car is a spiritual sucessor to a 30 yr old Corolla. Clearly the history is relevant.

If they build a Supra the 370Z is the clear competitor as it always was. Why would they compete with the Corvette, which is a GT-R competitor? I just don't see it.

And in that last article, Toyota said they were still considering a turbo version, so we may or may not have to turn to Subaru for that...

iff2mastamatt 08-03-2010 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 653483)
The car is a spiritual sucessor to a 30 yr old Corolla. Clearly the history is relevant.

If they build a Supra the 370Z is the clear competitor as it always was. Why would they compete with the Corvette, which is a GT-R competitor? I just don't see it.

And in that last article, Toyota said they were still considering a turbo version, so we may or may not have to turn to Subaru for that...


I've read somewhere that the Toyota CEO would love to build a revived Supra, but the company does not feel it's the right time to create such a car.

Also, they just built the LFA, shouldn't they use a little break? If the LFA was around 100K and was mass produced, it might be just as popular as the GTR.

Evolution_GT 08-11-2010 08:01 PM

Apparently this car is set to be released back on track in November 2011!!

Report: Contrary to rumors, Toyota FT-86 development on track, expected Nov. 2011 — Autoblog

Brazilbro 08-11-2010 11:31 PM

Kinda looks like a mini GT-R with the body kit

PapoZalsa 08-14-2010 08:42 PM

I was reading on Road & Track on my way to home to a family emergency that Toyota is thinking about making a baby FT-86.

Only like 200HP, the body looks good on the pic.

iff2mastamatt 08-16-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 675642)
I was reading on Road & Track on my way to home to a family emergency that Toyota is thinking about making a baby FT-86.

Only like 200HP, the body looks good on the pic.

I read that too in the August issue, but I think Toyota is going to make the baby ft-86 a hybrid CR-Z competitor. If the ft-86 could outperform an Altima coupe for a lower price, I'd consider that for my next car (having 4 seats would be nice).

Niche79 08-22-2010 08:51 AM

Sorry if its already been stated but IMO they need to bring back some old school names to really get this car going, call it the Celica since its gonna be a 20k car or so and get some buyers who are loyal to that car line. Hybrids are utter fail and sales are terrible across the board, hell Honda has taken a nose dive into them and cancelled almost all of their Hybrid cars to stick with normal gas cars, and I dont even wana begin to rant on how crappy the crz is with its "sporty" 10 sec to 60 numbers. My idea, Toyota makes it good if it has over 200 hp or more and brings back an old name. If they make it hybrid and has some crappy 130hp it will die quickly because Americans just hate hybrids unless your some tree hippie and in that case you already have a hybrid called the Prius that toyota makes:bowrofl:

iff2mastamatt 09-14-2010 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Niche79 (Post 688021)
Sorry if its already been stated but IMO they need to bring back some old school names to really get this car going, call it the Celica since its gonna be a 20k car or so and get some buyers who are loyal to that car line. Hybrids are utter fail and sales are terrible across the board, hell Honda has taken a nose dive into them and cancelled almost all of their Hybrid cars to stick with normal gas cars, and I dont even wana begin to rant on how crappy the crz is with its "sporty" 10 sec to 60 numbers. My idea, Toyota makes it good if it has over 200 hp or more and brings back an old name. If they make it hybrid and has some crappy 130hp it will die quickly because Americans just hate hybrids unless your some tree hippie and in that case you already have a hybrid called the Prius that toyota makes:bowrofl:

I like the FR-S idea, but only "Supra" would really raise some eyebrows (even though this concept is less powerful). Celica would help too, but I think it deserves a more flamboyant name.

Red__Zed 09-16-2010 08:41 PM

looks like it could have an interesting value proposition...

Kcuba370z 09-16-2010 08:46 PM

looks like a Genesis/IS250 mix ?

Lemers 09-16-2010 09:33 PM

What ever it looks like I'm sure it's gonna be under powered...but then again what isn't under powered

Kcuba370z 09-17-2010 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 725014)
What ever it looks like I'm sure it's gonna be under powered...but then again what isn't under powered

:iagree: and its a shame..

G Fo12ce 09-17-2010 04:02 PM

Possible FT86 test mules:

Supras?

Gunzero 09-17-2010 04:06 PM

Looks like a GT-R :D

370zproject 09-22-2010 02:28 PM

i heard it got cancelled ?

iff2mastamatt 10-03-2010 11:32 PM

Was the FT86 a no show at Paris? I can't find pictures of it from the auto show.

JollyGoodChap 10-04-2010 04:31 PM

they should call this thing the toyota phantom

iff2mastamatt 01-26-2011 11:34 PM

Well, it appears the FT-86 concept II has recently shed some teaser pics, hopefully this is very close to the production model!

Toyota teases FT-86 II concept for Geneva — Autoblog

MVPTonyD 02-03-2011 02:01 PM

This car looks amazing, except for the wheels. and I have mixed emotions on the seat. but I would love to drive this car.

370zproject 02-03-2011 02:30 PM

u need a car

MVPTonyD 02-03-2011 03:35 PM

I sure do.

Lemers 02-03-2011 03:55 PM

Toyota doesn't make sports cars anymore. It will never come out.

370zproject 02-04-2011 01:02 AM

shh

Lemers 02-04-2011 08:01 AM

I did t mean to destroy any dreams. Just stating facts. Oh does anyone know what ever happen to the FT-HS?

PapoZalsa 02-04-2011 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 926305)
I did t mean to destroy any dreams. Just stating facts. Oh does anyone know what ever happen to the FT-HS?

:google:

FT-HS - Google Search

Lemers 02-04-2011 12:10 PM

I guess a smart a$$ response for a smarta$$ question was warranted.

Sibze 02-04-2011 12:34 PM

smart

370zproject 02-04-2011 01:10 PM

hahaha

spearfish25 02-04-2011 01:14 PM

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Apparently only Bigfoot could heel-toe an FT-86. You could rest your foot between the brake and throttle. And why is the shifter uncircumcised?

ThoriumHotdog 02-04-2011 01:43 PM

I like it. The interior is going to change a lot but I hope the exterior remains untouched.

I hope they offer a range of engines from a weak 4 cyl (econ), a turbo 4 cyl, and a nice v6.

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 926818)
Apparently only Bigfoot could heel-toe an FT-86. You could rest your foot between the brake and throttle. And why is the shifter uncircumcised?

It's a concept. The entire interior is not even remotely functional. I doubt they can even stash proper airbags in that dashboard. :D

theDreamer 02-04-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog (Post 926858)
I like it. The interior is going to change a lot but I hope the exterior remains untouched.

I hope they offer a range of engines from a weak 4 cyl (econ), a turbo 4 cyl, and a nice v6.

One engine, turbo 4.
Only other option that is still rumor is some sort of hybrid style like the CR-Z to complement the turbo 4.

ThoriumHotdog 02-04-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 651121)
Well looks like the FT-86 or whatever you want to call it is being pushed back from 2011 to 2013. Toyota is putting it on hold to see how the CR-Z goes and might decide to give it a hybrid engine?

This would be a mistake even if it weren't a rumor. The CR-Z would be selling like crazy if it had a 160-200 hp all gas engine in it. Instead, its barely creeping along. If I could order it from the factory with an empty engine bay and sans batteries I would. :)

Besides, any car that cuts its A/C off at traffic lights in a 100 degree weather just to "save gas" is full of fail.

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 926859)
One engine, turbo 4.
Only other option that is still rumor is some sort of hybrid style like the CR-Z to complement the turbo 4.

Turbo 4 isn't bad. Tis a shame it doesn't come with a v6 but you can do a lot with a factory turbo engine.

theDreamer 02-04-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog (Post 926880)
This would be a mistake even if it weren't a rumor. The CR-Z would be selling like crazy if it had a 160-200 hp all gas engine in it. Instead, its barely creeping along. If I could order it from the factory with an empty engine bay and sans batteries I would. :)

Besides, any car that cuts its A/C off at traffic lights in a 100 degree weather just to "save gas" is full of fail.



Turbo 4 isn't bad. Tis a shame it doesn't come with a v6 but you can do a lot with a factory turbo engine.

Just give Honda a little time, they are working on a non-sh*t CR-Z. :D
On the V6 side, I think if the stars align and the FT-86 does well and they can bring some LFA tech into the lower price we might see a RWD V6 from Toyota.

iff2mastamatt 04-17-2011 03:45 PM

It has been a while since this thread has discussed the FT-86, but much has been learned in the past two months! First off, Scion will be revealing the "FT-S" at the NYAS April 20th, which will likely be Toyota's variant of the FT-86 in North America. Though a second concept was shown in March at the Geneva Auto Show, it will probably not make it to NA (or at least as a Toyota). However, I'm wondering if any Z owners are considering the FT-S as a next car, because it may be a Z competitor if made right. Just my 2 cents, cheers!

kenchan 04-17-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by iff2mastamatt (Post 1058450)
However, I'm wondering if any Z owners are considering the FT-S as a next car, because it may be a Z competitor if made right. Just my 2 cents, cheers!

not me. scion is like nowhere in my radar as next hobby car. lol

heck, if im buying a scion, i'd get the xB as a beater :tup:


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