Ford Taurus SHO

Jeffblue · 03-19-2010, 11:12 AM

The 3.5L EcoBoost™ is the first North American production twin-turbocharged direct-injection V6 engine. And Taurus SHO is the first and only vehicle in its class* to feature the EcoBoost engine. This engine provides better fuel economy** and fewer emissions than a V8. EcoBoost combines two different technologies – turbocharging and direct injection – to deliver the performance of a much larger engine with the fuel economy of a smaller engine.** It churns out 365 horsepower and 350 lb.-ft. of torque across a wide 1,500 – 5,000 rpm range. And it does all that with an estimated 17 city/25 highway fuel economy.** Compared to a naturally aspirated engine, the 3.5L EcoBoost twin turbocharged direct injection V6 engine provides higher performance, better fuel economy** and fewer CO2 emissions: • Improved transient response enabled by the direct injector reduces “turbo lag,” overcoming the traditional disadvantage of downsizing and boosting • More efficient fuel consumption is the result of a high compression ratio enabled by direct injection, which provides air charged cooling *Class is five-passenger Large Car. **EPA-estimated 17 city/25 hwy (AWD).

I think this car is kind of stupid. It gets mediocre fuel economy. All this eco boost crap does is take their 4400 lb car which would otherwise get HORRIBLE fuel economy, and allow it to get mediocre/poor fuel economy. Go Ford!.

why don't they just try not putting eco boost in and take 1000 pounds of unnecessary weight out of the car? but that wouldn't really cater to their target market of people who think that heavy american cars are automatically safer because they are heavy and american.

Lug · 03-19-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

The 3.5L EcoBoost™ is the first North American production twin-turbocharged direct-injection V6 engine. And Taurus SHO is the first and only vehicle in its class* to feature the EcoBoost engine. This engine provides better fuel economy** and fewer emissions than a V8. EcoBoost combines two different technologies – turbocharging and direct injection – to deliver the performance of a much larger engine with the fuel economy of a smaller engine.** It churns out 365 horsepower and 350 lb.-ft. of torque across a wide 1,500 – 5,000 rpm range. And it does all that with an estimated 17 city/25 highway fuel economy.** Compared to a naturally aspirated engine, the 3.5L EcoBoost twin turbocharged direct injection V6 engine provides higher performance, better fuel economy** and fewer CO2 emissions: • Improved transient response enabled by the direct injector reduces “turbo lag,” overcoming the traditional disadvantage of downsizing and boosting • More efficient fuel consumption is the result of a high compression ratio enabled by direct injection, which provides air charged cooling *Class is five-passenger Large Car. **EPA-estimated 17 city/25 hwy (AWD).

I think this car is kind of stupid. It gets mediocre fuel economy. All this eco boost crap does is take their 4400 lb car which would otherwise get HORRIBLE fuel economy, and allow it to get mediocre/poor fuel economy. Go Ford!.

why don't they just try not putting eco boost in and take 1000 pounds of unnecessary weight out of the car? but that wouldn't really cater to their target market of people who think that heavy american cars are automatically safer because they are heavy and american.

Car is stupid but that engine is pretty cool. Imagine dropping it in something like their Focus.

antman22 · 03-19-2010, 12:58 PM

they're trying to compete with the bmw TT 6 that they use across so many vehicles (335, 135, 535, etc). Like Lug said, imagine if its in other models. If its a successful engine, it could be used on a lot of the Ford platforms.

I don't know how heavy the Taurus is, but I bet it could probably shed a few pounds. It can be difficult though, having to deal with all the safety regulations that have to be put in place. That alone adds a lot of weight to a car.

370Zsteve · 03-19-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by antman22

they're trying to compete with the bmw TT 6 that they use across so many vehicles (335, 135, 535, etc). Like Lug said, imagine if its in other models. If its a successful engine, it could be used on a lot of the Ford platforms.

I don't know how heavy the Taurus is, but I bet it could probably shed a few pounds. It can be difficult though, having to deal with all the safety regulations that have to be put in place. That alone adds a lot of weight to a car.

Yup, Ford has also finally gotten it correct on true "World Cars". The Taurus is an enormous car. The numbers are pretty good.

speedfreak28 · 03-19-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

The 3.5L EcoBoost™ is the first North American production twin-turbocharged direct-injection V6 engine. And Taurus SHO is the first and only vehicle in its class* to feature the EcoBoost engine. This engine provides better fuel economy** and fewer emissions than a V8. EcoBoost combines two different technologies – turbocharging and direct injection – to deliver the performance of a much larger engine with the fuel economy of a smaller engine.** It churns out 365 horsepower and 350 lb.-ft. of torque across a wide 1,500 – 5,000 rpm range. And it does all that with an estimated 17 city/25 highway fuel economy.** Compared to a naturally aspirated engine, the 3.5L EcoBoost twin turbocharged direct injection V6 engine provides higher performance, better fuel economy** and fewer CO2 emissions: • Improved transient response enabled by the direct injector reduces “turbo lag,” overcoming the traditional disadvantage of downsizing and boosting • More efficient fuel consumption is the result of a high compression ratio enabled by direct injection, which provides air charged cooling *Class is five-passenger Large Car. **EPA-estimated 17 city/25 hwy (AWD).

I think this car is kind of stupid. It gets mediocre fuel economy. All this eco boost crap does is take their 4400 lb car which would otherwise get HORRIBLE fuel economy, and allow it to get mediocre/poor fuel economy. Go Ford!.

why don't they just try not putting eco boost in and take 1000 pounds of unnecessary weight out of the car? but that wouldn't really cater to their target market of people who think that heavy american cars are automatically safer because they are heavy and american.

I thikn you miss the point of a performance sedan. HIgh 13's at 100 mph isnt too bad.

ChrisSlicks · 03-19-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreak28

I thikn you miss the point of a performance sedan. HIgh 13's at 100 mph isnt too bad.

You missed the point that the car put on 1000 lbs of bloat (previous platform was 3,329 lb). Imagine what this car could be like if it were 1000 lbs lighter?

Weighing in at 4400 lbs, it might go okay in a straight line given the amount of horsepower but it isn't going to go around corners like an Infiniti G35/37.

Jeffblue · 03-19-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

You missed the point that the car put on 1000 lbs of bloat (previous platform was 3,329 lb). Imagine what this car could be like if it were 1000 lbs lighter?

Weighing in at 4400 lbs, it might go okay in a straight line given the amount of horsepower but it isn't going to go around corners like an Infiniti G35/37.

Yea my point was that the car is a whale. (don't get me wrong, i love audis BUT) its like the Audi S5 v8 (3900lbs 354 bhp) in the respect that, yea its got a pretty good amount of power but the thing weighs so much that a car that isn't bloated can out perform it with less power. Power to weight is a big factor in performance. same goes for fuel consumption. All i'm saying is they didn't need to design a new engine. They could have made their car a couple hundred pounds lighter.

Keep in mind, this thing with four adults (150lbs each x 4 for example) weighs about 5000 pounds. This eco boost engine is like someone taking HydroxiCut and eating a whole pizza. Just skip the pizza and you don't need the hydroxicut.

I guarantee you the R&D that went into this engine was more costly than figuring out how to make the car weigh less than the moon.

ChrisSlicks · 03-19-2010, 04:02 PM

I can't imagine that the new engine weighs any more than the previous SHO's 3.4L V8. The weight was added purely by making the car bigger and stronger.

I have no complaints about the new engine, it is powerful and fuel efficient (at least it would be in a lighter car).

370Zsteve · 03-19-2010, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

You missed the point that the car put on 1000 lbs of bloat (previous platform was 3,329 lb).

That's because the Taurus is really a Ford "Five Hundred", which didn't sell, so they renamed it "Taurus".

m4a1mustang · 03-19-2010, 02:58 PM

Go check one out... they are actually very nice vehicles! I wouldn't buy one but wouldn't mind having one.

Jeffblue · 03-19-2010, 04:03 PM

my complaint isn't that the engine is heavy. i just think its such a mediocre application of it.

ChrisSlicks · 03-19-2010, 04:05 PM

I believe the new engine is going to eventually be offered in several platforms, the SHO just happens to be the first.

vash_241987 · 03-19-2010, 04:04 PM

they should have just dropped it in their v6 version mustang....who cares if its going to compete with the v8.

Pharmacist · 03-19-2010, 04:37 PM

i agree, the car is a useless tub of lard. typical ford junk, and with a hefty price tag! I'd rather have the equally priced g37x or slightly more expensive 335xi. On the other hand the engine does seem pretty good. They should find a better application for it than this car. Why not put it in the mustang? Pretty ironic that a taurus has more power than ford's flagship car

370Zsteve · 03-19-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

i agree, the car is a useless tub of lard. typical ford junk, and with a hefty price tag! I'd rather have the equally priced g37x or slightly more expensive 335xi. On the other hand the engine does seem pretty good. They should find a better application for it than this car. Why not put it in the mustang? Pretty ironic that a taurus has more power than ford's flagship car

We all know what you think about American cars, ad nauseam. Taurus has more power than the Mustang? Really?

03-19-2010, 11:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	Ford Taurus SHO The 3.5L EcoBoost™ is the first North American production twin-turbocharged direct-injection V6 engine. And Taurus SHO is the first and only vehicle in its class* to feature the EcoBoost engine. This engine provides better fuel economy and fewer emissions than a V8. EcoBoost combines two different technologies – turbocharging and direct injection – to deliver the performance of a much larger engine with the fuel economy of a smaller engine. It churns out 365 horsepower and 350 lb.-ft. of torque across a wide 1,500 – 5,000 rpm range. And it does all that with an estimated 17 city/25 highway fuel economy. Compared to a naturally aspirated engine, the 3.5L EcoBoost twin turbocharged direct injection V6 engine provides higher performance, better fuel economy and fewer CO2 emissions: • Improved transient response enabled by the direct injector reduces “turbo lag,” overcoming the traditional disadvantage of downsizing and boosting • More efficient fuel consumption is the result of a high compression ratio enabled by direct injection, which provides air charged cooling Class is five-passenger Large Car. *EPA-estimated 17 city/25 hwy (AWD). I think this car is kind of stupid. It gets mediocre fuel economy. All this eco boost crap does is take their 4400 lb car which would otherwise get HORRIBLE fuel economy, and allow it to get mediocre/poor fuel economy. Go Ford!. why don't they just try not putting eco boost in and take 1000 pounds of unnecessary weight out of the car? but that wouldn't really cater to their target market of people who think that heavy american cars are automatically safer because they are heavy and american.

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ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	I can't imagine that the new engine weighs any more than the previous SHO's 3.4L V8. The weight was added purely by making the car bigger and stronger. I have no complaints about the new engine, it is powerful and fuel efficient (at least it would be in a lighter car). __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

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ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	I believe the new engine is going to eventually be offered in several platforms, the SHO just happens to be the first. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

03-19-2010, 04:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
Pharmacist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,249 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 18	i agree, the car is a useless tub of lard. typical ford junk, and with a hefty price tag! I'd rather have the equally priced g37x or slightly more expensive 335xi. On the other hand the engine does seem pretty good. They should find a better application for it than this car. Why not put it in the mustang? Pretty ironic that a taurus has more power than ford's flagship car __________________ 2009 370z Sport Touring/Nismo shift Knob/Z1 motorsports 34 row oil cooler

03-19-2010, 12:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
antman22 Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 597 Drives: 09 PG 370z 7AT Rep Power: 16	they're trying to compete with the bmw TT 6 that they use across so many vehicles (335, 135, 535, etc). Like Lug said, imagine if its in other models. If its a successful engine, it could be used on a lot of the Ford platforms. I don't know how heavy the Taurus is, but I bet it could probably shed a few pounds. It can be difficult though, having to deal with all the safety regulations that have to be put in place. That alone adds a lot of weight to a car.

03-19-2010, 04:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	my complaint isn't that the engine is heavy. i just think its such a mediocre application of it.

03-19-2010, 04:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
vash_241987 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, Tx Posts: 443 Drives: '99 corolla Rep Power: 15	they should have just dropped it in their v6 version mustang....who cares if its going to compete with the v8.

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