2020 Mazda rotary to make a return

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

This is Mazda Rx9 thread and you're having a rant about muscle cars?

Anyway, I'll smoke the fvck outta you in my wannabe sports car camaro whether you're in a challenger or Z or mustang. I never raced a Z but I've shyttedI on every mopsr I raced and I just took 2 shyts on a 5.0. It was hilarious. Z's dont even try.

Anyway... enough of you thread hackers and Z nuthuggers. back to Mazda More info on the new rotary!!

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...ine-technology

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

It’s b/c the challenger isn’t trying to be anything it’s not, it’s an unapologetic midsize (think gm a body style) muscle car, lots of awesome noise and tire smoke, big hp numbers good in a straight line and fun on a windy road at 7/10ths but no more. Oh, and burnouts.

Mopar has always had a Fvck you type attitude about there offerings and they build what they are passionate about and believe in.

Camaros and stangs are trying to be sports cars, and they turn incredible lap times, but almost no one is buying one bc of that bc the buying public will always view them as muscle cars, (yes, technically they’re pony cars, but that’s an academic argument). The arguments on this board about camaro and stang vs the z prove that.

And from a muscle car buyers perspective, no one out muscle cars the challenger.

It’s proof that if you make passionately inspired products that aren’t designed to appeal to everyone you can be successful and authentic and trying to be something you’re not or trying to be everything to everyone is a losing strategy. Just ask Nissan about that last point.

I’d take a challenger over either a camaro or stang any day, but if I want a sports car, the only American offering worth my time would be the vette, but I don’t like vette so it’s out, I’ll stick with the Germans thank you very much.

Originally Posted by cossie1600

The LA auto show didn't have the Mazda, it's not happening for 2020.

Nissan killed themselves by making $hitty product. They have nothing new and they have nothing that can compete in any market segment. It has nothing to do with Pro Pilot or the electric cars. They simply don't have anything to offer. The only thing they can compete on is price in fleet sales, they are selling these old a$$ Altimas and Sentras that people treat them worse than village bicycles.

I guess the only exception to that is Dodge with their Challengers/300M, I can't believe they are still selling them after 10 years.

Originally Posted by sunkist350z

:The z34 still has way better sexy lines, still looks better than a lot of current new cars.

Originally Posted by Spooler

^^^^This, the 370z is just about timeless as far as looks are concerned. Who cares about the bloatware folks want. I don't give a rats butt about having Navigation, apple car play, internet, connecting my phone to my car. When I am driving, that dang phone is in the seat. If someone calls, leave a message.