One of those things that crossed my mind when thinking long term with the Z vs. moving onto grander cars. Maybe something to live with longevity vs. live through temporarily.

As if grocery and mall visits are already a PITA.

Any sports car I've owned I've gotten a lot of hate. It doesnt matter what it's been. People look at sports cars with hate and envy because as the years progress. It gets harder to own one. The enthusiast landscape gets smaller. People make concessions and settle for sporty. I remember when I first bought my Camaro. I was at the walmart parking lot and I opened the passenger door to throw out some trash I had in the car. I flipped the backseat and took out a bag. Then I walked to the trash and threw the stuff out. Went inside to buy my neighbor's son a christmas gift and when I came out... there was ketchup all over my car. All cuz I spent a whole 20 seconds on the passenger side of my car.
When I got the Z people were always trying to tell me about all the cars that were faster. I replied by saying none of the cars you mention handle like mine and most people that own cars can drive them like I can. And I always put my money where my mouth was... so people learned to respect the Z.
Mustang's fly me by no matter what I've driven. But now that I'm in a camaro. I get fly bys 10 times a day. Its fvckin annoying. Mustang owners are the biggest douche bags. The funny part though is... they do the fly bys right before making a turn. They know better than to stay on a str8 with me. But anyway... point is...

Owning a sports car is amazing if you focus on why you bought a sports car in the first place!! The social aspect of ownership is tedious. That's why I prefer just being somewhat of a loner when it comes to car culture. You and a friend can both have cars. He crashes, it changes his outlook. He chooses not to have another sports cars then over time your friend envies you.

1st world problems. Totally stupid.

Interesting vid about the Z06 engine possibility
 

Big brother is watching. This popped up on my thread.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/26/vanda...lier-10633253/

The hate on enthusiasts is real.

I do have issues driving my 370z but nothing like the Corvette. Some folks go over the top. You don't even have to be driving it. If they know you have one, the devil horns come out. Some people are just horrible. F'm though. I am going to enjoy life.

F'm and feed 'em fish heads hooks.

:iagree: I'll drink to that!

And the SICKNESS continues!!!

A 5.5 liter that's been rumored since the C7 was a concept car with a N/A V8 putting out 600hp/620tq and a twin turbocharged version putting out 850hp are set to debut for the C8 in 2020!!

https://www.thedrive.com/news/29629/...-8-with-850-hp

I guess they're working on beefing up the dual clutch for the latter engine? These numbers are crazy though. Chevy is really trying to not have ANY competition in this segment. Nuts!!!

If this is true. This is going to pull sales away from other sports cars with the people who are on the fence on which car to get.

ummmm yes. i think i will be getting one when the twin turbo Z06 releases in 2022.

What I love about the C8 is they're gonna have to either put out super cars at corvette prices. So budget sports cars will have to be Cayman good.

I can foresee a toyota MR2 being something really special in the 40k range.

The C8 might be the shock to the system that the sports car world needed. Super car performance at prices that are not out of reach. Now everyone has to step up their game.

sooooooooo basically the 2009 GT-R?

:stirthepot:

Or, it's the last hurrah before everything goes plug-in.

(sorry to rain on this parade, but it's highly unlikely that there's a business model for multiple entries into the budget supercar class.

And having a prancing horse, rampaging bull, or crest from Stuttgart in the driveway is a status symbol. Dropping the price on those just to meet this challenge is not likely.

In the end, it's still a GM product, and will begin to fall apart at 35,000 miles. We'll see how the fit and finish is, and whether the first generation is worth the hype.

Honestly, I suspect that other competitors will simply leap-frog this with electric performance that they can carry on with in future models.

i'm still scratching my head over the non-matching side mirrors on the C8 lol

One already fell off?
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On the earlier post, I think that Cayman is dead anyway - there will be a few special editions, but I'm guessing that it will be replaced by the Taycan platform in various body forms.

What the C8 will really kill is the up-coming petrol lower end performance cars in the pipeline. I honestly doubt that Alfa and Maserati will bother with the 8C / Alfieri anymore. Perhaps full electric only.

So, although the C8 is a boon to part of the market, it is a double-edged sword to the industry as a whole. I'm OK with it, as long as GM does this car right. It truly is a paradigm shift. If they blow it, they have screwed up the entire market segment for nothing.

For one... Nobody expects the exotics to lower there prices. If that's how you interpreted the statement then you're pretty much in your own world of negativity trying to rain on a parade that wasnt scheduled to march on. At best, my train of thought was on the upcoming mazda coupe the upcoming MR2 and the possible upcoming Z/Q60 and next gen WRX.

Two... electric cars are inevitable. They're shoving them down our throats even though they dont even make 5% of car sales. And as much as sports car sales are declining. Theyre still selling 300% more sports cars than EV's.
As far as we know so far... most next gen sports cars will be mild hybrids at best... yes there are 2 or 3 electric sports cars destined to come out but none will be affordable.

As far as your GM comments that haven't held a whole lot of weight since 2005 with the exception of the volt which is cancelled.
As far as corvettes go. I see brand new looking C3, C4 and C5 vettes on city streets pretty much on the regular. And camaro 5's seem to be holding really well out in the meet's. Especially 1LE and Z/28 owners seem to have impeccable examples.

Haters gonna hate though.

40 years of MR concepts. The 5.5litre was being tested back in 2012. I think nothing will go too terribly wrong.

They learned from the Z06 cooling fiasco. The C7's are price to performance leaders as they stand right now. The tech in the C8 exists in the c7. It's just packaged nicer. They've built production MR's before.
My only concern would be the DCT. and that 1000 location memory lift. Hopefully that will go well?

the passenger mirror sticks out further than the driver side.

https://www.motor1.com/news/366898/c...-side-mirrors/

Yup, one of us has a problem with English. Or whatever is is you Americans speak down there. :hello:

26+ years experience as a manager of a 100+ vehicle fleet (and conversations with other fleet managers) is what I base my comments on. GM is forever giving more problems than the rest put together.

Read the second sentence after your highlight genius.... it makes my first sentence self explanatory. So stick to a Canadian forum if you have no sense of american inference.

When I said that... it wasnt meant for exotics. I meant cars it competes with.

i.e.the cayman
The audi r8
The GTR
and the base mc laren.
Lotus Evora

They're going to have to do more.

Not Ferrari's and lambos or Bugatti's. Come on. Really?. And we are talking about corvettes and sports cars... Not your fleet Malibu. Get real. That's like slighting the Z because NISSAN CVT's get changed every 60,000 miles. Or saying the Z sucks cuz the juke has 117hp... smh

Disgusting FoRd MuRsTaAnG cultist cop pulls over amazing new C8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt_pGLbiKuY

But really, the entire Ford fleet sans the GT is pretty much susceptible to being unmarked/undercover. I remember seeing a group meet at a gas station. I first thought, "whoa that group of people all have bad taste in cars", but then I realized they're all cops.

Haters gonna hate... :icon18:

Corvette ranked second longest ownership longevity!
 

https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2019...p-the-longest/

Not too many sports cars on the list but Corvette is #2 but #1 as a sports car.

The mustang is a few spots lower but is the #2 car on the list.

It seems many owners aspire to have a new and old vette in their garages. It could even just be a matter of a C5 and then-new C7.

The elusive two-Corvette garage. I mean I'm sure there's many Z owner equivalents, as well as for for other namesakes.

And well, technically, something like the C5 ZO6 is actually still a pretty fast car. Might even be faster than a 370z in every which way. Just have to bear the eyesore interior.

Just put the order in for my C8. 1LT with Z51 and a couple little extras. Only 66k total which is cheaper than my C7 z06 and doesn't have traction problems like my Z06. Now the long wait. That being said deposit is refundable in case by some miracle the C8 or Supra get an announcement that a manual is coming.

The C8 is getting line lock, like the camaro 6's & I think the C7 did have launch control!!

https://www.motor1.com/news/371457/m...ons-explained/

Couldn't be less interested in that feature, really.
But I guess if it floats somebody's boat, why not.

So, does that mean it has an electronic LSD, or no LSD, or those options are mutually exclusive?

We have Elsd. The feature is meant for dragsters. Or track junkies looking for grip on inception of a race. I would need that feature.

VERT VETTE debuts Oct 3rd.
I'm typically not a very dude n wouldnt buy one. But... I think this C8 may be a very attractive convertible

https://www.motor1.com/news/372089/c...rom%20%251%24s

Hey, you don't have to be a very dude to be interested. The car community is fully of very, and not-so-very dudes, and some people who aren't dudes at all.

As a dude, I would typically skimp on the convertible version of a car, but the stiffness and hardtop execution seem awesome on this one. It's more like a....spider. I hate to say it, but it caters more to this "poor man's exotic", and I'm actually into that because actual used 458 prices (and probably reliability) are still a huge stretch away.

Here comes the HYBRID C8 corvette.
 

https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2019...-of-ann-arbor/

The vette for millenials

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kxcwgtaqAc

Soon

Corvette convertible hides engine. Spyder top
 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/02/cars/...ble/index.html

Very fresh... I think this is going to be the real exotic looking one between the coupe and this spyder.

Ain't nobody getting anything until the strike is over. Now there is talk that GM will close plants after the strike and move things to Mexico.

AND the golf clubs still fit!

Too early to tell. They have till December to fix issue.

GM Strike Unlikely To Cause Corvette C8 Production Delays | GM Authority

good. teach whiny union workers who signs their paychecks lol

:stirthepot:

If you want the flyest Corvette with fully loaded specs bruh.... loaded specs!!! Its gonna cost you.

$103,615

https://www.motor1.com/news/374924/2...ost-expensive/

Sounds cheap to me.... when you compare the specs against what's out there.
But the proof is in the pudding.

And I'll just laugh at the guy who bought this spec, and then only takes it out every other Sunday to Cars & Coffee. Of course, it is his right to do so. But, so sad.