Ok so clearing up that NEARLY SOLD OUT article. What they're saying is the first wave of allocations of cars for January are nearly sold out. The public may have to wait till March or so to get a corvette.

But there will be 2020's continually produced to meet demand.

The orders haven't even been put in the system yet. LOL they are just hyping the interest and making people act crazy. Just silly.

... going back to my "lemmings" comment on the last page. LOL

Just goes to show, if someone has the balls and pocketbook to build a great sports (GT) car at an affordable price, there is demand. There will be lots of losers (Supra, among others) as people move into to the C8. Time will tell, if it is worth the hype or not. I hope it is.

The wheels better be made stronger. I just bent 2 wheels on my C7 Grandsport on a small pot hole to the tune of $2200. Not happy about it.

It's easy to get flats on GM rim's and bend them. That is the truth. I wanna get the MRR 1LE wheels but not sure those are replica or OEM. Rather replica.

Back to vettes

They're claiming the e99 ecu is truly uncrackable this time. If they cant crack it? They can clone it. It may cost more to buy a clone but. It would be worth it.

https://youtu.be/7kkDwV2eHk8

I imagine Chevy just wants their cut. Pay them a license fee to tune it, and they'll be happy to oblige.

I wouldn't be surprised if the big tuners, like HP, already have access.

I didn't get a flat. Cheep as Chinese wheels.

CORVETTE STANDARD FEATURES.

https://jalopnik-com.cdn.ampproject....020-1836882478

Z51 Performance Package

13.6 inch front rotors, 13.8-inch rear rotors Performance exhaust with various modes Electronic limited-slip differential
Heavy-duty cooling system,
and more features

1LT

GT1 8-way power leather bucket seats. (No heated function)
Dual-zone climate control;
8 inch touchscreen display/Apple CarPlay, Android Auto,
Near Field Communication
Bose 10-speaker audio system
High-definition backup camera with park assist
12-inch gauge cluster display
keyless ignition and entry
Near Field Communication
Remote start
Valet mode
Power windows with automatic up/down
Illuminated vanity mirrors
Heated manual-folding but power-adjustable side mirror
Power leather-wrapped tilting and telescoping steering wheel.
Stainless steel exhaust system
19-inch silver aluminum wheels with 245/35ZR19 all-season tires up front
20-inch wheels with 305/30/ZR20s
12.6-inch brakes up front
13.3-inchers out rear
Standard mechanical limited-slip differtial
eight-speed dual-clutch transmission
LT2 495HP 6.2ltr v8 470lbs tq

2LT

Head-up display
Power-folding mirrors
Lower bolstering and lumbar adjustment for
Heated and vented seats
Wireless charging;
Heated steering wheel
Navigation
Bose 14-speaker audio system
Performance Data Recorder
Rear camera mirror Memory package
Curb view camera
Blind-spot monitoring; and rear cross-traffic alert.

3LT
GT2 seats with Napa Leather and “Carbon-Fiber trim” Custom “leather-wrapped interior” with suede on the upper sections and leather on the lower doors.

A good friend of mine is 1st on the list at a dealership where he buys his corvettes. He told me that it should be here in Dec.-Jan. time frame. So I will get a to drive it once he gets it. It should be fun. :tup:

My tires are bigger. :rofl2:

No more chrome wheels for the old farts anymore on the C8. I wonder if we can get rid of the lawn chairs so they won't sit behind their beloved Corvette at the car shows. Next time you are at one, take a look.

This is why I said a couple weeks back the Z51 ain't shyt. The real base corvette is the Grand Sport. The brakes are kinda small for the power. The tires are ok but not truly track sized tires.

Knowing theres a GS model. The z51 isn't worth it imho.

So here's an article about what the Ferrari forums are saying about corvette.

https://www.motor1.com/features/3623...ette-2020/amp/

And its true...
The Acura NSX and Audi R8 might as well end production.
Super cars now have to be hyper cars at super car prices.
The GTR is no longer a conversation. AT ALL

The Supra should be sold at Z sport prices.
The 86 needs to start at $22,000. It's original designated MSRP until toyota felt the need to think that car was more special than $22k :rolleyes:

If I get one it will be a Z06. Turbo's for the win.

I was going to say something about how tire compound matters more than width, and brake pad material matters more than size, but I remembered this thread only cares about basic measurements for performance....

That’s what she said...

<< Immediately, another user responded with fire and fury...>>

<< Nothing personal, and I mean that (but you are being rude—unintentionally perhaps—to ‘vette enthusiasts)...but you refer to ‘vette sucking for a long time”...

My Z06 wouldn’t even be able to keep your car in its rear view mirror for more than 2 seconds, could go tens of thousands of miles more than yours without a mechanical hiccup, finish a 5 lap race around Big Willow against your’s destroying it and that includes me stopping for breakfast. Not to mention loaded with electronic options and an a/c that I can personally attest will keep you cool driving with top off in 90+F temps. Oh, and the V8 sound in Z06 will make your’s sound like a squeaky toy in comparison.>>

How about your car? >>

Best part of the article. Pwned.

Why does it scare me that the "features" list for a high performance car like this (for all intents and purposes, a supercar), are almost all about creature comforts. I guess I like my sports cars "raw" whereas this is "well done with mashed potatoes, double gravy, veg, Caesar salad, appetizer, desert, big gulp, and a side of fries"!

The good news is that none of those up-sell packages have justification for huge price increases. I suspect they might, just the same, though.

Take a step back...

Think about the demographic makeup of Vette owners...

100%
All of whom all going to be scared spitless by what this car will be capable of!
:rofl2:

They are scared crapless over a C7 Grandsport power. LOL Why do you think C7 Z06 sales fell when the GrandSport came out. LOL

Honestly, the GrandSport is the best configuration for the chassis. The amount of power the Z06 puts out is excessive, even on the track. I've seen excellent drivers have their hands full with the Z06.


There's working hard to get a great lap time, and working hard to keep the car on the track. Whether the Mid-engine layout is actually good remains to be seen. I'll be keeping my eye out for track reviews (though i have no plans of getting one.)

The guys that posted that are just mad that they now can possibly get trashed by a STOCK CORVETTE. LOL

He wouldn't like it if he pull up beside my car. He would get butt hurt bad...

:driving:

:owned:

If a c8 could hack my daily drive, there is no other vehicle I'd consider.

I kinda disagree, I get the whole pure bare bones sports car argument, and I do love a totally driver centric car like the 4c, but if you need a sports car that is a good track car and semi daily driver, then all that tech and comfort features make perfect sense.

There’s also the perceived value proposition from the average customers perspective, for $60-80k, if they didn’t offer this stuff, it’d flop. Very few people want a lotus type car, they’d rather something more “well rounded”.

Fair enough. Different buyer perspective. I suspect that you are in the majority, as this car will outsell the 4C, and every Lotus and Catheram ever made by many, many times over.

As to the value bit, not sure. Porsche manages to charge even more for deleting options than they do for adding them. Betting there will be a stripped down factory performance version of the C8, and that will come in at a premium price. Of course, you might be able to do the same thing by buying a base car and stripping it yourself, but Chevrolet will have enough tweaks in theirs to make theirs more worthwhile.

Porsche limits that production of 'purist' spec machines. They limit and hype that for the wealthy purists silly enough to pay. Per unit profit at Porsche is the highest in the industry at times. Its just good marketing. Exsclusivety sells lol. Is the .2 on the 'Ring' worth that if you do not track? Personal judgement as always

My C7 GrandSport was daily driven since mid Febuary. It's not an issue. If you don't think you could daily a C8 then that's just you. The car will be capable of it. The fuel mileage is just stupid good for the C7.

I know I'm in a lowly SS. but on the highway. If I do 75 at cruise I get up to 32mpg. If I leave cruise on at 85mph I get about 25mpg. If I cruise at 100mph I get about 19mpg.

To get good mileage city driving you gotta leave it in auto. You can get about 18mpg on a cool day and 15 to 16 mpg on a hot day. If i switch gears and are hooning around I'll get somewhere around 13mpg. For a 6.2ltr v8 that at this moment I'm at 444.3 rwhp/510bhp I think I'm getting great mileage.

I'm expecting the same from the C8

https://youtu.be/Rm44aTI6nsY

BEAUTIFUL :icon18:

Thank you Corvette for murdering Supra markups in 2 weeks!!! Eff these capitalist greedy Hogg Swine. :roflpuke2:

If he’s that worried about depreciation he has no business buying a new car. He really should wait a year and buy the Supra as a leftover or even used.

I’ve lived through this first hand with Harley Davidson. 20 years ago the dealers were getting $1000’s over sticker. Today? They still demand sticker which is exactly why they can’t sell a new bike anymore. The used market is flooded with “brand new” bikes posers bought thinking they were gonna leave it in the garage for a couple of years and flip it for a profit.

You're not factoring out why hes in this state of rationalization. He makes part of his living vlogging cars. In his thought process hes making legitimate points. Long term pushing a Supra till next june or October give or take. With the Supra being close in price to a vette. How will the corvette affect the Supras existence. Is it better to wait or go ahead and buy. He can buy a Supra today. He speaks for as niche group of people but it's a relevant group that are the first reviewers and more affluent enthusiasts. Theres still stuff to learn here.

I live as close to off grid as one can, without going fully off grid. The c8 would be okay until the road washes out and 6" deep ruts form in it, and then I'd be stranded over a mile from home. No fun. Giving up sports cars in exchange for freedom. Choices were made. Then factor in that a 300ft section of my driveway is a 27% grade, gravel, and when it snows those wide tires and light car will be problematic. AWD SUVs dominate my locale as a necessity.

The c8 simply is not capable of my daily commute, many days, unless I lifted it or armored the underside or some other nonsense. Nonviable.

Literally the only thing I've given up that I sometimes miss, when I moved out of the city. Otherwise, and in spite of it, highly worth it!

https://scontent.fhhr1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...41&oe=5DA6FD19

My Ls1 and ls7 cars always returned exceptional mpg.

Dat overdrive

But that's one factor that unfortunately makes me open to parting with the Z if I can't own two cars.

I was already thinking of getting the C7 at depreciation, not actually expecting the C8 to be as awesome as it currently sounds. I mean not only is that car a better performer than the Z in every imaginable way, but it had more boot space, seems like the manual was still easier to get along with, and it got better mileage. Z51 also made the car a bit more track ready. Literally faster and more practical, it seemed. Targa top was icing.

It's not that the Z is bad, but at least to me, there was something that ticked all the boxes in qualifying as a better car in the C7.

Spending so-so years paying off a C7 now is kinda gonna get in the way of saving up for the supercar that is the C8. Only way I lean to a C7 is if the C8 turns out to be a timebomb disaster.

The DCT is what I'm concerned with, if anything.

They played it safe. The engine is a mild update to the LT1. The LT1 is basically proven at this point.
All the tech in the C8 is in my car. It's just updated versions so you're not dealing with new tech.
The suspensions are identical to the vette and SS. it's just now the chassis is extremely balanced from having an MR platform. Waaaaay more aerodynamics and a lower COG.

You have one new production feature to a vette. The lift.
DCT is new to production cars but old to race cars.
If you really look at the C8. The just changed the platform of the C7 improved the transmission and seriously upped the interior. I think you'll be good bruh. :tup:

Most people don’t part time vlog. My point stands. If you can’t afford the depreciation, you can’t afford the car.

I’ve never seen a reviewer in Car and Driver complain about not being able to review a car because of “depreciation”.

He kinda fits in his own niche in the car vlogging world. It's a little weird. If memory serves right, he dropped his Z, got the Nismo, and only held onto it for less than a year before he got a GT-R. Was documenting installs and dynos of short tails and short rams. I'm not sure what he's done on his GT-R apart from the exhaust and that wrap, but they're not quite the ones to turn to for build documentaries.

I mean I won't hate on him, though. Great for him if his YT vids and selling price of the Z actually put him ahead, or if he's got the money to move fast from car-to-car. He was talking about how the GT-R was his dream car when he first got it, and I think he took delivery without ever going out to inspect it. And then he has his eyes on a Supra and well... yeah, now he makes a video about the C8 making him questioning that prospect.

This isn't like Shmee150 buying another supercar — he sounds like he planned well ahead what he's going into, and he tends to show some commitment, including with his own Supra pre-order.