New Mustang 5.0L confirmed HP

dad · 12-20-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

yes, they sure did. in the 1960's and 1970's. check your calendar. we are now in 2009

Run and get your box of kleenex, that Ford would blow the doors off your Z!

Pharmacist · 12-20-2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dad

Run and get your box of kleenex, that Ford would blow the doors off your Z!

based on what? do you have any performance data or have you seen any performance tests that would back up such a ridiculously nonsensical claim?

a car with less horsepower, more mass, skinnier wheels and tires, weaker brakes and ancient suspension would blow the door off a more powerful lighter car with better wheels tires brakes and a modern advanced track tuned suspension. yep, makes lots of sense

theDreamer · 12-20-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

based on what? do you have any performance data or have you seen any performance tests that would back up such a ridiculously nonsensical claim?

a car with less horsepower, more mass, skinnier wheels and tires, weaker brakes and ancient suspension would blow the door off a more powerful lighter car with better wheels tires brakes and a modern advanced track tuned suspension. yep, makes lots of sense

You do realize we are talking about the 5.0L Mustang here right?
It has more power and torque than the Z.
The 2011 will have a BBK, finally.
Larger wheels and tires, which I believe come with the BBK option.
Again, the only thing the Mustang does that you do not like is the solid rear axle which while not ideal has proven to do very well in road racing, auto-x, drifting, and of course straight line.

Pharmacist · 12-20-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

You do realize we are talking about the 5.0L Mustang here right?
It has more power and torque than the Z.
The 2011 will have a BBK, finally.
Larger wheels and tires, which I believe come with the BBK option.
Again, the only thing the Mustang does that you do not like is the solid rear axle which while not ideal has proven to do very well in road racing, auto-x, drifting, and of course straight line.

considering that the 2011 mustang doesn't even exist yet, it's premature to draw any conclusions about its performance, making dad's statement nonsense. It looks like it may be faster in a straight line than the z. On a track, its not so clear. regardless, the car hasn't even been manufactured yet, so one cannot logically and confidently make any claim regarding its performance. now the mustang that does exist, the 2009 and 2010 MY cars are SLOWER in every manner including a straight line than the Z despite having a bigger engine with more displacement. Quite pathetic really considering the entire raison d'etre for mustangs and "muscle" cars in general is supposed to be incredible straight line speed

TARDCORE · 12-21-2009, 12:20 AM

The price difference from what I have read won't be too bad compared to the 2010 gt. So does this mean the 2011 stang will come in 3 trims? I kinda hope this thing sells well looking forward to having more competion out there!

cow · 12-21-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

obviously if i had to buy a muscle car it would not be for road course perofrmance, since none of them is very good at it. being the best out of a bunch of crap performers still makes you a crap performer. obviously while the camaro has a theoretically superior suspension setup it hasnt been tuned properly by gm compared to ford's tuning of the live axle. still i'll take the camaro just to avoid the stigma of having a solid axle suspension

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Trust me, I know. I hate brand-whores like nothing else.

Really, I am just out to defend the truth like most everyone else in this thread that can recognize a good car when they see it.

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

That is one of the things that really annoys me about car people. People have a tendency to compare their car to cars in different classes. We see it here all the time and it's very annoying.

Put simply, the Mustang is NOT a sports car. The Mustang is a muscle car or sports coupe, however you want to phrase it. The Z is a sports car. They just don't compare.

I don't care if they have roughly the same power and are about as fast as one another... they aren't in the same class.

Completely agreed.

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