2018 Toyota Supra

BlackZeda

It looks like you guys are letting some purported leaks on some 3rd rate auto news sites override your logic and reason.

1) The "news" is BS
2) Toyota could not sell it. I am 90% certain I will buy the new Supra/FT-1 (if that is what it is called), but having a BMW engine is a certain deal-breaker.
3) The 86 has a Toyota engine even though it was co-developed by Subaru. If Toyota were to use another companies engine, then it would be Subaru.
4) Correct me if I am wrong, but Toyota (or Lexus) has never used another manufacturer's engine.

ZCanadian

Although I don't dispute your assertion as to the veracity of these reports, I'm not certain that past practices are entirely indicative of current or future business models. Modern business pressures demand lateral thinking like never before. Certain opportunities might only be realized by forging new partnerships. Some models would never exist without them. Not saying that's a good thing, but it's becoming reality.

Jordo!

I would expect the BWM motor(s) with Toyota part numbers and a few other odds and ends taken from, say, Denso, and (possibly) a Yamaha head. It will have a Toyota ECU, tho'...

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b15

The 86/FRS has a Subaru designed and built engine (FA20). It does use the Toyota DI fuel system but it is not a Toyota engine. In Toyota applications, it carries a Toyota engine code but that doesn't make it Toyota designed engine. The whole architecture of it screams Subaru as it's the EJ replacement.

This Supra would probably be the second Toyota car using a non-Toyota designed engine that I'm aware of.

BlackZeda

Thanks for the correction. The 86 is indeed a rebadged Subaru, but if the "Supra" is a rebadged BMW it better be something special, or they've lost me as a buyer.