2018 Toyota Supra

King

Am I the only person who absolutely rages at these mishmash cars.
It's the same thing they did with that POS BRZ/GT/FR-S.

It's like Toyota has lost the ability to engineer their own engines. If I'm going to buy a Supra or a GT86 it's because of the originals. You can put Yota badges on a BRZ but the motor still has Subaru stamped on it. It's like pandering, using these car names that people know and love and sticking them on garbage.

A supra built by BMW is still going to be BMW trash. If you have ever tried to work on, or buy replacement parts from BMW you will know what I mean. Forget it. there will be huge sticker price because Euro import tax is higher, some specialty washer on the motor that you can only get from BMW for $250, and they will be run through in 100k miles. Oh and piss poor resale value.

Sorry, got a little ranty there...

BlackZeda

You lost all credibility from the start with me.

Nithmo

You need to put down the crack pipe. If the car is sold at a Toyota dealership, you will easily get parts for the engine, no matter what. And since when is BMW trash? Just because you can't afford to buy or maintain a BMW, doesn't constitute it as being garbage?

It's not like Toyota went over to BMW and said "give me 20,000 units of this engine, stat!" I'm sure Toyota went over the design with a fine tooth comb to ensure it meets their standards for longevity. Just because it was designed and potentially even built by BMW, doesn't mean ****.

BlackZeda

I am waiting at least a year IF Toyota puts out a Supra and to see if it maintains Toyota quality. If the quality is not there, there is no reason to buy a Toyota.

UNKNOWN_370

I can afford to buy an M4 and maintain it....

BMW sucks!!! They lost their way in the late 90's. Period. Of course, corporate sponsorship won't allow mainstream periodicals to preach such truthful heracy. It's funny how the M2 has gotten so much praise but hasn't been compared to anything in its price range on a track. Every car has been compared except the M2. Everyone says it's the second coming of BMW. But where are track comparos to cars in its price range like the camaro 1LE, Mustang GT350, Porsche Cayman S, Corvette Z51, Audi TTS or Lotus Evora

You won't find any.... Why???

The media protects BMW for corporate cash.

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Redglare

Bmw died from me when they went the FI route in the F8XXX series,

the e92 and e90 were the last true M enthusiast cars. I drove a new m4, the car had trouble putting power down on nice grippy michelin tires, it was fun for the first couple of miles but then it just got annoying, that huge torque hit at 2000rpm is great on paper but in real life, if you are not running slicks or some extra wide summer tires, you WILL not hook up - and if you do its because the TC just cut your power. What the new M cars really need is AWD but that would even farther drive them away from what we love about the M cars.
That experience was in summer btw, I don't even want to know what the car with some light snow or rain.

bmw if you are reading this; give us a modern e46m3

/Angelo350Z/

How did BMW lose their way in the 90s, effectively paving the way for their suckage? I honestly would like to know your opinion.

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