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BTW anyone think that the new "Supra"sounds something like and M4/M3? hahaha! is not a surprise if they install that engine in the Supra and the Bmw Z5
Just my 2 cents! |
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BTW I see a meme of the new Civic Type R saying that that happen when an STI meet a Honda Civic :bowrofl: is funny cause the new Type R have a few things that looks like an STI |
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thats a true disappointment to me...the M3/M4 exhaust notes are terrible. |
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Is anyone besides me seriously eyeing the Supra as their next car purchase based on the rumors, limited information and renderings so far? If the following are realities/options, then I will be getting one:
- Offered with a 400hp+ AWD hybrid - Reasonably lightweight (considering that it will be hauling batteries around) - Looks like to a toned-down FT-1 (keeping the F1 front end) - Has enough room for my golf bag - Is offered in black - With good options, a price of ~$65K Hopefully it is called a Supra. I am keeping the Z as well. Who thinks I'm stupid (for what I am saying in this post), and what would it take for you to get a Supra! |
No. I want da next gen S2K before a modified corolla
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Oh sorry modified tribeccasa or watever dafaq it's called before da modified civic
Wait wat? |
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I have to see it on person first and see the real specs and the price of course.
Also I hope they dont called Supra if they are going to build a AWD car... My opinion is that they have to stay with a RWD platform and then you can call it a Toyota Supra :p |
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I can wait to see what the mid-range brings. |
Toyota SUPRA brochure leaked!!!
Looks like it will be called the Supra!!!
Alleged 2018 Toyota Supra brochure leaks out [UPDATE] Supra’s dimensions: 4380 mm (172 inches) long, 1830 mm (72 inches) wide, 1280 mm (50 inches) tall, and with a wheelbase (97 inches). weigh between 1,350 and 1,430 kilograms (2,976 and 3,152 pounds) and available with 18- and 19-inch alloy wheels. turbocharged 2.0-l 192 horsepower (143 kilowatts) and 320 Newton-meters (236 pound-feet) of torque. OR. 252 hp (188 kW) and 400 Nm (295 lb-ft). 3.0-liter 340 hp (253 kW) and 450 Nm (332 lb-ft). |
Looks like our Z will outpower it by 60HP. We gotta match that weight though. Good job Toyota. Shyt!! That's what I'm talking about. UNDER 3,200LBS!!!!
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Well my friend sorry for tell you this but that brochure is Fake!
This 2018 Toyota Supra Brochure Is A Big Fake |
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Anyway, not sure why people are motivated to just pull **** from their ***. Fanboyism is a ******* stupid *** way to live. |
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Damn. It's FAKE!!!
This 2018 Toyota Supra Brochure Is A Big Fake It was published on sites that usually give fairly accurate info. That really sucks. I thought 192 HP was suspect for a SUPRA though. |
Fake news or alternate fact? :ugh:
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Those wacky Serbs.
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These new spy shots don't look promising for the supra as the rear looks like a 350z with those cheap eBay carbonfiber aftermarket tail lights lol
BMW Z5 Feeling Naughty, Gets Photographed With Top Down Next To Supra |
Am I the only person who absolutely rages at these mishmash cars.
It's the same thing they did with that POS BRZ/GT/FR-S. It's like Toyota has lost the ability to engineer their own engines. If I'm going to buy a Supra or a GT86 it's because of the originals. You can put Yota badges on a BRZ but the motor still has Subaru stamped on it. It's like pandering, using these car names that people know and love and sticking them on garbage. A supra built by BMW is still going to be BMW trash. If you have ever tried to work on, or buy replacement parts from BMW you will know what I mean. Forget it. there will be huge sticker price because Euro import tax is higher, some specialty washer on the motor that you can only get from BMW for $250, and they will be run through in 100k miles. Oh and piss poor resale value. Sorry, got a little ranty there... |
Companies share resources on projects like this because sports cars aren't a profitable segment, and developing a new chassis and power train to fit it is expensive.
While i'm sure Toyota would love to reward a "hardcore" fan like you with a "pure" sports car designed and manufactured entirely in Toyota's Japan HQ and plants, its simply not the market we live in today. Also, its not entirely clear what each company is contributing - who's doing the chassis tuning? BMW is doing the gas engine, Toyota is doing the electric ****. Lastly. The BRZ/GT86/FRS was actually helped by Subaru's involvement. Its engine was much more accessible than a Toyota engine that might be locked up tight for emissions purposes. And Subaru does build quick cars, so they know what they're doing. |
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A yet closer look at a camoflauged car. We been looking at camo for months... Time to get on with it Toyota.
Next-gen Toyota Supra spied up close in France |
Is it just me, or does the new Supra look much smaller than the last gen Supra? It looks more like the size of the 370z (aka no back seat).
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It's not like Toyota went over to BMW and said "give me 20,000 units of this engine, stat!" I'm sure Toyota went over the design with a fine tooth comb to ensure it meets their standards for longevity. Just because it was designed and potentially even built by BMW, doesn't mean ****. |
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BMW engines in themselves are reliable. It's some of the components related to the engine that aren't (like the High pressure fuel pump debacle from a few years ago). I'm not sure to what extent each company is responsible for building the car, but it would make absolute sense for Toyota to feel secure about the product being released that will ultimately bear it's name.
That's not to say it won't have issues. I'm sure it will. But even every Toyota these days seems to have some sort of recalls, or what not. They're no different than any other manufacturer, in that regard. |
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Recalls are a result of a quality assurance system working. Companies that don't recall a known issue are either hiding issues or more worried about the bottom line *cough* Nissan *cough* CSC *cough* my NISMO engine... |
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BMW sucks!!! They lost their way in the late 90's. Period. Of course, corporate sponsorship won't allow mainstream periodicals to preach such truthful heracy. It's funny how the M2 has gotten so much praise but hasn't been compared to anything in its price range on a track. Every car has been compared except the M2. Everyone says it's the second coming of BMW. But where are track comparos to cars in its price range like the camaro 1LE, Mustang GT350, Porsche Cayman S, Corvette Z51, Audi TTS or Lotus Evora You won't find any.... Why??? The media protects BMW for corporate cash. |
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the e92 and e90 were the last true M enthusiast cars. I drove a new m4, the car had trouble putting power down on nice grippy michelin tires, it was fun for the first couple of miles but then it just got annoying, that huge torque hit at 2000rpm is great on paper but in real life, if you are not running slicks or some extra wide summer tires, you WILL not hook up - and if you do its because the TC just cut your power. What the new M cars really need is AWD but that would even farther drive them away from what we love about the M cars. That experience was in summer btw, I don't even want to know what the car with some light snow or rain. bmw if you are reading this; give us a modern e46m3 |
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