The new Alfa Romeo Giulia

ZCanadian

Yup, they can't even get the name right. Quadrifoglio, not "Quattrofoglio"
They apparently tested the knock-off from Audi!

Stupid. Though their conclusion is right. If you are not enough of a man to buy a true sports car for fear your perfectly quaffed hair might be disturbed or your Tommy white jeans may get soiled, then buy the more reasonably priced TI version. Not everyone needs to set a Nurburgring lap record on their commute or when picking up the kids from school!

UNKNOWN_370

We need Hanz & Franz to give these so called enthusiasts a pep talk so they can get "pumped up" and these girly men will want to drive a manly car.... Ya yahhh!! Lol

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FPenvy

I really love this car......except for the price. Just saw a test of one where it destroys everything but they showed it's price as tested being 85k.

I'll have a gtr over it any day.

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10 things you need to know about the 2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio (Page 2)

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ZCanadian

Saw one in the flesh for the first time this week.
Quadrifoglio edition.
Curiously, Alfa has dropped the "verde" from the moniker. Previous performance variants have been called Quadrifoglio Verde (for the green four leaf clover charm they carry), or QV for short. I guess they figure that's too big a mouthful for North Americans to handle, but then they offer it in colours like "Rosso Competizione", LOL!

The car is smaller than I expected. In a good way. Definitely sporty. Interior is as stunning as the exterior. Italians can do leather like no others. The display flows nicely into the dash, and the wheel and shifter paddles are perfect. No 3-pedal variant in our or most markets for this car.

In Natural mode, the car is silent. Switch to Race and it sounds amazing. Way better than any twin turbo 2-litre has a right to sound. The active aero front splitter deploys, and the driving dynamics are completely changed. I didn't take it for a drive, but thinking I may have to. There's an open house at our dealership next month, and they want my car on display anyway. Might have to make that part of a reciprocal arrangement.

The biggest barrier to ownership is the price. This one, in Q trim and with every option except the available carbon seats and ceramic brakes (both priced much more reasonably than those by Porsche or Ferrari) priced out at CDN$97,000 before tax. Still, the base car is available for just over half that, and can be optioned up nicely for around CDN$70K, where it should sell quite well.

I was impressed with the package. If the marque can get traction, and if Alfa gets its abysmal customer service situation sorted out, then they really could give BMW a run for their money. Probably not so much Mercedes, but that was never really in the cards. Those are big"if's", though.

SINISTER

Same body as all the rest of the sedans with a slightly different front end and bumper and a huge $$ price tag all wrapped into one of the most unreliable brands ever.....
Hell you can buy a Pontiac G8 looks similar for 18k....

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The Giulia has a Ferrari California engine with 2 cylinders lobbed off and two turbos to replace the lost cylinders. It has a ZF single clutch automatic transmission, 510HP and I think when you buy the Ti you're getting a bargain. The Giulia is appropriately priced for what it is. It only has 3 options. Ceramics, racing seats and
A manual transmission in Europe. So you basically buy a loaded car. Option out an M4 and u pass Giulia pricing by $9,000

It's the fastest sedan around the nurburgring.
Hey if you don't like it? I get it. One man's trash is another man's treasure. But a G8 is an outdated POS that compares to the worst M5 ever made. Not much of a feat and nowhere near the same ball park as this sedan.

The pic you chose is also an overstatement to the realistic appearance of a g8 if you bought one right now... smh. Somebody please post a pic of a G8 from cars.com? I'm on my cell and can't right now...

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SINISTER

Lets clarify things the Giulia Ti is not the fastest sedan around the Nurburgring...the Giulia Quadrifoglio is...Big price difference between the two. The Ti is priced around 40k and the latter priced over 72k+

The GXP G8 is a POS I agree, thats my point...but that POS looks similar to the Alfa which honestly should look much better since your paying a TON more. That POS G8 also has 415 Hp versus the Alfa Ti version of the Giulia which if I am not mistaken has 280 Hp ..The GXP G8 did 0 to 60 in 4.5 seconds vs the TI doing over 5 seconds and quarter mile times? G8 13.0 seconds vs Ti 13.6....The GXP G8 also did Nurburgring in 8.30 thats 58 seconds slower than the 70k + version but definitely faster than the Ti version...pretty good for a outdated POS that cost 2.5 X less than the TI and 4x less than the Quadrifoglio.

The Ti is a bargain? Alfa has had a history of unreliability and high cost repair. Typical of Euro garbage...See the consumer reports on how reliable and what a "great bargain" it is...
Consumer Reports' 2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Basically Lives at Dealer
That "bargain" just got more expensive. Cost of fixing a euro car just added to our price tag. Cost of fixing a G8 low ...real low. Not to mention the G8 gets a LS3 V8 which is bullet proof and highly reliable not a direct injected carbon build up maintenance problem like the Alfa Ti engine.

I think with the 25k to 58k saved you can make any G8 look as good as the one I posted. Would I buy a G8? No but would I but a G8 over a Ti if I had no other options for 2x less ..YES. ..So for a POS which I agree it is...the G8 makes the Alfa Ti kinda look like a high cost, unreliable, bigger POS.......

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DI didn't say the Ti is the fastest.... I said when you BUY a Ti it's a BARGAIN....


As far as history goes, YOU LEAVE OUT ONE MAJOR FACTOR.... The Giulia has been designed from the ground up.... Now maybe the quad has a brand new engine. But the lower cars have the tiger shark engine which is a reliable motor. Dodge tends to have transmission and electronic issues.... but dodges don't have ZF transmissions...

I mean you can blah blah blah all day about unreliable platforms from two decades ago that have NO BEARING on the Giulia all new design. Or you can wait and see if Alfa indeed hit a homerun.

Overall though. An Alfa is the equivalent of an affordable Ferrari. There's a lot to be said about it's performance. Even if it ends up being a car you trade once the warranty is up? It still kills EVERYTHING out there by a landslide. And that no one can argue.

Consumer Reports has ONE CAR to write about bruh. And it's a first model year. You're not making a case yet. Besides CR calls the Z a nightmare and I've NEVER had ONE problem.

NICE TRY...

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SINISTER

Its not a bargain...I made a case your just blind and think your buying a Ferrari stop with that b.s. it cant even go quarter in 13.5 seconds and has less than 300 hp....that aint no Ferrari..."bruh"..
I picked a g8 because it looks like crap similar to the Alfa but in all honesty if I needed 4 seats...I would go for something better looking and more reliable like a q60 or G37...

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ZCanadian

Yup, damn sexy car. Not. The newest examples of it are 7 years old now. 6-speed automatic. The best part about it was that it wasn't really a Pontiac. Holden made some very good cars. Kudo's to them. Unfortunately, they have gone the way of Pontiac now.

If that's what you want to spend your money on, SINISTER, more power to you. Cuz yes, you will have more power. And likely more headaches. And no warranty to deal with whatever may arise.

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SINISTER

Likely more headaches?...the LS3 as I mentioned, and you did not read I guess is a solid platform. I owned a 2006 Pontiac GTO with the LS2 engine, Two corvettes with both ls3 engines and I never had 1 problem ever....euro cars are all nightmares, and on top of that the alfa romeos are known historically for being unreliable nightmares.... click on the link in my post they couldn't even give consumer reports a good one ...

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ZCanadian

Yes, Alfa left these shores about a generation ago due in part to quality problems. Seems to me, another manufacturer was in a similar situation about 10 years prior. They essentially kept selling here but changed the brand name to lose the baggage. What was that make again? I can't quite put my finger on it ;-) . And quite frankly, they still have a quality problem. Can you say "CSC" on our cars, or transmissions on GT-R's? How about transmission cooling issues on Frontier/Xterra? Ignition systems on Sentra? Nissan just walks away from those like a dog away from a turd, and somehow gets away with it.

In 1996, Alfa was a bloated, government-owned car maker concerned with keeping unions happy at the expense of the taxpayer and the customer. Now, it's one of the big hopes of growth for FCA (though it's never going to materialize in numbers that matter).

The MiTo and Giulietta, cars we've never seen in N. America, have actually a pretty good rating as far as long term quality goes. In a much different league than the new lineup from Alfa Romeo, no question there.

As for the Consumer Reports article, I don't know. I only pick that rag up when I run out of toilet paper. I've never had a use for it, and am surprised any thinking person does. Perhaps just this time because it supported your point? I could understand that.

zeeder

To my eye, this car doesn't even begin to approach the aesthetic beauty of the Giulia.

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