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Old 11-19-2013, 07:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Yeah I was researching that point for the longest time on why stillen and motordyne made so much compared to the rest. And almost all the other exhausts used the Hpipe or x pipe design. Granted in theory they would make the most HP and tq design, they don't. Now this is actually where getting into power under the curve matters... An X pipe/ypipe design will give you the most power down low, because the exhaust gases and closer to mixing or mixing directly which in turn creates back pressure without the use of a muffler or resonator. So the exhaust gases are not slowed down by the packing, which helps with exhaust scavenging. The h pipe helps in high rpm power cuz it equalizes exhaust pulses and they will flow better in upper RPM.
H-pipe is why I was only looking at a few exhausts. The stock nismo has a similar setup so wanted to match that for performance. MXP and AAM were two that offered this. On each of their websites they claim great gains. If the AAM tails will match up to the MXP mid, I may do a switcharoo.

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H-pipe is why I was only looking at a few exhausts. The stock nismo has a similar setup so wanted to match that for performance. MXP and AAM were two that offered this. On each of their websites they claim great gains. If the AAM tails will match up to the MXP mid, I may do a switcharoo.

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Can you buy just the MXP midpipe?
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Yeah I was researching that point for the longest time on why stillen and motordyne made so much compared to the rest. And almost all the other exhausts used the Hpipe or x pipe design. Granted in theory they would make the most HP and tq design, they don't. Now this is actually where getting into power under the curve matters... An X pipe/ypipe design will give you the most power down low, because the exhaust gases and closer to mixing or mixing directly which in turn creates back pressure without the use of a muffler or resonator. So the exhaust gases are not slowed down by the packing, which helps with exhaust scavenging. The h pipe helps in high rpm power cuz it equalizes exhaust pulses and they will flow better in upper RPM.

The point I cannot directly explain is how motordyne, and stillen still make the most power in the high rpm utilizing the ypipe design. Granted motordyne uses the indirect resonator on the tail pipes(I forgot the actual name for that) and it creates even more exhaust scavenging. These points are why I chose the ypipe design with a non resonated midpipe and two straight through mufflers as my exhaust of choice. Least path if resistance for me.
Great information and pondering of x-y-h differences. As far as I understand, the x design will make more power throughout the rpm band over the h, since it allows a more free flow path and reduces exhaust scavenging, but the loss of backpressure causes a loss of torque, which is where the h pipe design out performs. Albeit, we are talking measurements of 1 and 2, nothing too significant. If you think about it, the y pipe design is really just an elongated x pipe, and that is probably why motordyne and stillen are making the same type of power gains in the same power band. A lot comes into play, angle of the y, length of the y before the x split again, backpressure from the mufflers and baffles, and things like test pipes, hfcs, or stock cats and their age can really offset the numbers as well.
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Not sure. Got it through a forum vendor.
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The midpipe, or the full exhaust
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The midpipe, or the full exhaust
I purchased the full exhaust for around $1200. Vendor was B2 Auto Designs.
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FYI this dude on facebook (SVGZ Depot) is selling his 40th wheels if anyone is interested,
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That's VJhay Reyes. He's a really cool guy. Military guy like myself. If anyone needs his info let me know. I will pass it on.

Ninja I look forward to hearing that exhaust. I haven't heard many 370Z exhausts in person. So if like to expand my horizons. Other than owning 4 different ones before I have settled with one. So I'm anxious for the next meet with you guys. Finally put names with the faces.
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Also, just an idea, if you do et the short tails, you could probably sell the axle back portion of your MXP for a good amount of money. Lots of people are always looking for good stock alternative
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I'd be down for a trip towards Vacaville sometime. Compare exhaust tones. Get Dave to come up and have a 3-way bro-date. Could be like all the guys on the G & Z forums, meetup late night in the back of a shady walmart parking lot and compare how low our cars are.
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Dude, there's some WICKED ups n downs on the way out to Travis AFB coming from lodi. I got all four wheels off the ground a few weeks ago doing 110 over the crest of one of them!
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Going down what freeway? Or back roads?

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12, Lodi to Fairfield.

Actually, the ups and downs are between sac river and fairfield, so you guys coming from Sac could come down 84 to 12.

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