[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

triso07 · 01-10-2017, 06:25 AM

Want to see what the current 1LE Camaro offers for 46k ...

V8 455 horsepower
6-speed manual transmission
Magnetic Ride Control
electronic limited-slip differential
Forged-aluminum wheels running 285/30ZR20 front and 305/30ZR20 rear
Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tires
Brembo brakes with 6-piston 2-piece rotor
Track cooling packages like engine oil, differential, and trans
Dual-mode exhaust
RECARO seats
Available Performance Data Recorder
Rev Matching

RicerX · 01-10-2017, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triso07

Want to see what the current 1LE Camaro offers for 46k ...

V8 455 horsepower
6-speed manual transmission
Magnetic Ride Control
electronic limited-slip differential
Forged-aluminum wheels running 285/30ZR20 front and 305/30ZR20 rear
Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tires
Brembo brakes with 6-piston 2-piece rotor
Track cooling packages like engine oil, differential, and trans
Dual-mode exhaust
RECARO seats
Available Performance Data Recorder
Rev Matching

Actually, with all the features you listed, it's closer to $51k, but you probably know about some imaginary rebate that I don't. I also dig how to make your argument at $46k you also list available options.

Nissan 370Z. Nismo Tech version. Recaro seats. 3.7L 350hp V6. $48k*

* - Available Fast Intentions Twin Turbo kit.

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No one is saying build a car with a carbon fiber tub, 500hp motor, carbon ceramic brakes, and electronic suspension and sell it to me for 40k. These requests are not unrealistic despite the fact you keep saying they are.

Don't tell me a DCT is unrealistic either as my goddamn Mitsubishi Evo has one and cost under 40k brand new.

Mitsu-what? ... Evo huh? OH!! Mitsubishi**

** - Available Nissan-Renault Alliance buyout.

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You honestly think a 3100lb 400hp DCT Brembo Brake Recaro seat optioned Z should cost more than 46k?

The base Cayman comes in around 52k.

Actually the Cayman is $54,950 including destination.***

*** - Available Floormats.

Redglare · 01-10-2017, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triso07

Want to see what the current 1LE Camaro offers for 46k ...

V8 455 horsepower
6-speed manual transmission
Magnetic Ride Control
electronic limited-slip differential
Forged-aluminum wheels running 285/30ZR20 front and 305/30ZR20 rear
Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tires
Brembo brakes with 6-piston 2-piece rotor
Track cooling packages like engine oil, differential, and trans
Dual-mode exhaust
RECARO seats
Available Performance Data Recorder
Rev Matching

you don't even need to go the 1LE route, the 1ss can be had for the same price as a base sport 370 and at the same time run laps around the z34 nismo, granted you won't have the same experience, but physics can't be argued with.

nothing new here, times moved on and nissan didn't, or I should say Carlos Ghon the nissan CEO didn't.

If you watch a very old jay lennos garage episode he goes to japan and talk to the Z designer, he says everything is in process and just waiting the green light from the administration, unfortunately Carlos just like all other CEO's is milking the mass market cars and propping up the brand with the flagship GTR, meanwhile leaving the red headed step child Z behind until he feels like he milked every other segment.

When will that be? only Carlos knows, but I can tell you right now the japanese nissan board isn't complaining, the company is thriving and making money.

What they did with the Z letting it go for so long without any 'upgrades' or even remedies like the CSC fix just shows you blatantly they do not care for the Z since there market is so saturated and there is no money there, meaning they would have to make a superior product, meaning they would have to invest a lot of R&D into the platform that just does not generate the revenue.

Look how many maximas they sold in one year then look at how many Z's, its pure business.

I hope the next gen is around the corner, but honestly at this point I lost interest and moved on to the c7 platform, you can pick up a brand new vette for the price of a nismo Z and have a much wider grin on your face.

It's really sad that we may see a C8 before we see the next gen Z.

Wonka2581 · 01-10-2017, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redglare

you don't even need to go the 1LE route, the 1ss can be had for the same price as a base sport 370 and at the same time run laps around the z34 nismo, granted you won't have the same experience, but physics can't be argued with.

nothing new here, times moved on and nissan didn't, or I should say Carlos Ghon the nissan CEO didn't.

If you watch a very old jay lennos garage episode he goes to japan and talk to the Z designer, he says everything is in process and just waiting the green light from the administration, unfortunately Carlos just like all other CEO's is milking the mass market cars and propping up the brand with the flagship GTR, meanwhile leaving the red headed step child Z behind until he feels like he milked every other segment.

When will that be? only Carlos knows, but I can tell you right now the japanese nissan board isn't complaining, the company is thriving and making money.

What they did with the Z letting it go for so long without any 'upgrades' or even remedies like the CSC fix just shows you blatantly they do not care for the Z since there market is so saturated and there is no money there, meaning they would have to make a superior product, meaning they would have to invest a lot of R&D into the platform that just does not generate the revenue.

Look how many maximas they sold in one year then look at how many Z's, its pure business.

I hope the next gen is around the corner, but honestly at this point I lost interest and moved on to the c7 platform, you can pick up a brand new vette for the price of a nismo Z and have a much wider grin on your face.

It's really sad that we may see a C8 before we see the next gen Z.

Yup yup and yup, you will see the new C8 before the next gen Z..

cigarclifford · 01-10-2017, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581

Yup yup and yup, you will see the new C8 before the next gen Z..

GraphiteZ · 01-11-2017, 08:32 AM

Actually the Z is not the only car Nissan messed up. All the cars and suvs sharing our FM platform and VQ power train are long overdue. The Infiniti Q70 (M series) and QX70 (FX series) were debuted in 2009. The QX50 (EX series) was in 2007. Both QXs are luxury suvs and supposed to be the highest priority in today's market if they want to make profit and increase market share. Nissan chose to do nothing.

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triso07 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 174 Drives: xxxxxxx Rep Power: 15	Want to see what the current 1LE Camaro offers for 46k ... V8 455 horsepower 6-speed manual transmission Magnetic Ride Control electronic limited-slip differential Forged-aluminum wheels running 285/30ZR20 front and 305/30ZR20 rear Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tires Brembo brakes with 6-piston 2-piece rotor Track cooling packages like engine oil, differential, and trans Dual-mode exhaust RECARO seats Available Performance Data Recorder Rev Matching

01-11-2017, 08:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
GraphiteZ Base Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Northern VA Posts: 96 Drives: 05 Elise and 13 GTI Rep Power: 32	Actually the Z is not the only car Nissan messed up. All the cars and suvs sharing our FM platform and VQ power train are long overdue. The Infiniti Q70 (M series) and QX70 (FX series) were debuted in 2009. The QX50 (EX series) was in 2007. Both QXs are luxury suvs and supposed to be the highest priority in today's market if they want to make profit and increase market share. Nissan chose to do nothing.