[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Jordo! · 09-02-2016, 05:06 PM

Well, notwithstanding the degree of insult inflicted on self-described "sports car purists", I think, we can probably expect all flavors of the Z to offer the 7AT as an option, as it seems to be the only available trans on the Q60 (and is now available on latest Nismo, plus was always an available option on all the Japanese models), it would be weird for them to simply not bother to include it.

I'll buy the most powerful one I can afford that also has the 7 speed. I love that trans, and after tuning, its really, really fast on the gear changes.

Of course, I'm pretty sure there will be a 6MT version for each as well, so something for everyone

Actually, does anyone know if there are mechanical differences between the 300 and 400 bhp 3.0TT models? Is it all just tune, or does the 400 hp one have differently sized turbos?

EDIT: According to A Deeper Look at Infiniti's New Twin-Turbo 3.0-liter V-6

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Originally Posted by Car&Driver

The new VR comes in either 300- or 400-hp strengths. Both are force-fed air via a pair of turbochargers, and Infiniti says that aside from programming, the only differences between the two versions are their engine mounts and an optical speed sensor for the turbochargers on the 400-hp variant. This speed sensor is what allows engine programmers to spin the VR’s turbos up to 240,000 rpm, a speed Infiniti claims is the fastest of any production V-6 engine.

Well, shit. That's pretty exciting! That all sounds upgradeable via tuning and maybe a few other minor changes, like the speed sensor they mentioned. I wonder about the motor mounts, tho...

NISMO IX · 09-02-2016, 05:33 PM

Honestly IDGAF whether it is manual or automatic, as long as it is fun. The fun factor is a must. I own a Juke nismo AWD CVT, it is still fun to drive. People crack me up with the whole manual vs automatic thing much like muscle vs import, to each their own and be happy.

maro · 09-02-2016, 06:10 PM

I hope nissan has good plan for next fairlady z cause that q60 is damn hot!

Dirk McGurck · 09-02-2016, 09:06 PM

7sp manual would be awesome. Let's face it, no one goes 55 on the highway.

Jordo! · 09-03-2016, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

7sp manual would be awesome. Let's face it, no one goes 55 on the highway.

I don't know if Nissan has a 7MT in their parts bin. I'm guessing a 6MT and 7AT will be the options, but you never know.

SiPnPiZ · 09-08-2016, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

7sp manual would be awesome. Let's face it, no one goes 55 on the highway.

they all do in Oregon

brucelidat · 09-03-2016, 01:44 AM

So talking to Seb, the car has 2 sets of cats. These tests were done with secondary down pipes, meaning the main cats (he said the main ones were pretty wide so that's good at least) were still in place. This means those who want to maintain stock cats (at leat the primaries) can still run some partial downpipes for gains and those who don't care can get better gains than these (all of which are pre-tune BTW). This is all for the q50 which I assume will be the same on the q60. Not sure if the z35 setup will be the same.

FPenvy · 09-03-2016, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

So talking to Seb, the car has 2 sets of cats. These tests were done with secondary down pipes, meaning the main cats (he said the main ones were pretty wide so that's good at least) were still in place. This means those who want to maintain stock cats (at leat the primaries) can still run some partial downpipes for gains and those who don't care can get better gains than these (all of which are pre-tune BTW). This is all for the q50 which I assume will be the same on the q60. Not sure if the z35 setup will be the same.

Cats? Nah those will all be gone if they make a z and I get ahold of it.

Full straight exhaust

Jordo! · 09-03-2016, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

So talking to Seb, the car has 2 sets of cats. These tests were done with secondary down pipes, meaning the main cats (he said the main ones were pretty wide so that's good at least) were still in place. This means those who want to maintain stock cats (at leat the primaries) can still run some partial downpipes for gains and those who don't care can get better gains than these (all of which are pre-tune BTW). This is all for the q50 which I assume will be the same on the q60. Not sure if the z35 setup will be the same.

That means there is probably still a good bit of power yet to be unlocked. Are the secondary cats the ones with the secondary O2's? If so, and if they haven't done any tuning yet, did they see any evidence of a pending code or CEL?

Not that those are deal breakers by any stretch, but just be good to have an idea what we're in for.

Also, if no tuning yet, was it running approximately stock level of boost? I'm guessing so if they can't adjust fueling or ignition advance yet.

Oh, I almost forgot -- was that the one rated to 400 or 300? I'm guessing the former. Although, gain, looks like besides tune, the major differences are a speed sensor for the turbos and beefier motor mounts.

FPenvy · 09-03-2016, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

That means there is probably still a good bit of power yet to be unlocked. Are the secondary cats the ones with the secondary O2's? If so, and if they haven't done any tuning yet, did they see any evidence of a pending code or CEL?

Not that those are deal breakers by any stretch, but just be good to have an idea what we're in for.

Also, if no tuning yet, was it running approximately stock level of boost? I'm guessing so if they can't adjust fueling or ignition advance yet.

Oh, I almost forgot -- was that the one rated to 400 or 300? I'm guessing the former. Although, gain, looks like besides tune, the major differences are a speed sensor for the turbos and beefier motor mounts.

No tuning boost was around 14psi stock after exhaust it was mid 15's.

It was a 400hp model and baseline was around 360whp i believe.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-03-2016, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

No tuning boost was around 14psi stock after exhaust it was mid 15's.

It was a 400hp model and baseline was around 360whp i believe.

The Q60 will probably feel like it has no soul at the wheel. But on the pedal. It's gonna kick some serious ***....

Jordo! · 09-03-2016, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The Q60 will probably feel like it has no soul at the wheel. But on the pedal. It's gonna kick some serious ***....

Soul can be programmed in

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

AFR Sensor-Cat-O2-Cat

My sister's van is that way. My Mazdaspeed was like that, too.

Interesting. So then one option would be to delete the second cat but not the first... I guess a lot of the power comes from the downpipe swap tho, which I'm guessing eliminated the first cat.

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

No tuning boost was around 14psi stock after exhaust it was mid 15's.

It was a 400hp model and baseline was around 360whp i believe.

Hm. Anybody know if the fuel injectors and fuel pumps are the same between the two variants as well.

If not, I'm starting to think the 300 hp model + Nissan p/n turbo speed sensor + upgraded motor mounts from somewhere + uprev tune = 400 hp Z on the cheap.

Well, assuming everything is plug and play interchangeable.

Dirk McGurck · 09-03-2016, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

That means there is probably still a good bit of power yet to be unlocked. Are the secondary cats the ones with the secondary O2's? If so, and if they haven't done any tuning yet, did they see any evidence of a pending code or CEL?

Not that those are deal breakers by any stretch, but just be good to have an idea what we're in for.

Also, if no tuning yet, was it running approximately stock level of boost? I'm guessing so if they can't adjust fueling or ignition advance yet.

Oh, I almost forgot -- was that the one rated to 400 or 300? I'm guessing the former. Although, gain, looks like besides tune, the major differences are a speed sensor for the turbos and beefier motor mounts.

AFR Sensor-Cat-O2-Cat

My sister's van is that way. My Mazdaspeed was like that, too.

NISMO IX · 09-03-2016, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

AFR Sensor-Cat-O2-Cat

My sister's van is that way. My Mazdaspeed was like that, too.

My Juke too.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-03-2016, 12:04 PM

I'm praying we get shocked with a 7DCT on Nismo models.... That's the holy moly long shot of the century. But one must keep hope alive...

Lol

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