[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Ventruck · 09-23-2020, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics

Via @yasiddesign on IG

"So what have I done here?
I elongated the front end/hood area, for old time's sake. A better hommage to the timeless datsuns, yes please? I reworked on the front bumper, giving it a longer and more pronounced nose. and that grill... is looking less like sponge sucker squarepants.
The rear panel is also completely in carbon fiber. I decided to pull the carbon fiber finish way down instead of just where the taillights are, and I think it's much better."

This is 100% what I would love to see. Even just making the rear part under the tail lights in carbon fiber/black looks so good now. It hides that big hump in the back. Even though Nissan realistically won't elongate the wheel base, if they just made the front grille/fascia similar to this they'd have a one of the best looking sports cars out right now.

Those were some smart incremental moves. The front bumper elongation itself evens out the grill situation, and I agree just carrying more accent black strikes more resemblance of the inspiration models.

Kinda wish people would stop showcasing the cars with unrealistic drop. An execution of a more realistic OEM package interpretation is more impressive imo.

axmea? · 09-23-2020, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics

Via @yasiddesign on IG

"So what have I done here?
I elongated the front end/hood area, for old time's sake. A better hommage to the timeless datsuns, yes please? I reworked on the front bumper, giving it a longer and more pronounced nose. and that grill... is looking less like ............

It hides that big hump in the back. Even though Nissan realistically won't elongate the wheel base, if they just made the front grille/fascia similar to this they'd have a one of the best looking sports cars out right now.

Vote Andaesthetics for president!

OCPanther · 09-23-2020, 01:23 AM

Great design!

FPenvy · 09-23-2020, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics

Via @yasiddesign on IG

"So what have I done here?
I elongated the front end/hood area, for old time's sake. A better hommage to the timeless datsuns, yes please? I reworked on the front bumper, giving it a longer and more pronounced nose. and that grill... is looking less like sponge sucker squarepants.
The rear panel is also completely in carbon fiber. I decided to pull the carbon fiber finish way down instead of just where the taillights are, and I think it's much better."

This is 100% what I would love to see. Even just making the rear part under the tail lights in carbon fiber/black looks so good now. It hides that big hump in the back. Even though Nissan realistically won't elongate the wheel base, if they just made the front grille/fascia similar to this they'd have a one of the best looking sports cars out right now.

ummmm yes. simply just yes.

that long nose just seriously gave me an emotional moment like it's perfect. thats what the Z should look like.

sir where are you in PA? i'd like to buy you a drink for finding that render.

SOUTHZZ · 09-24-2020, 08:36 AM

I have always thought there was a perfect color for each car.
Of course,rides like a Chevy Vega,Ford Pinto do not fit into this category.

Having a difficult time with the PROTO.
The yellow does look good. But,color on a car to me is that it will look good each day you
go out and look at it.Yellow may get old fast. Really don't see dark colors that will do
the best on the lines of the 400Z. A bright silver,the blue(I'm not a blue guy)shown
on the PROTO does look good. Nobody does a green...
So,I'm torn on the color. When I order my Z33,Silverstone with burnt orange leather was
THE color. It still looks new to me.
Suggestions?

vtecchippy · 09-24-2020, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Nissan is expected to price this car
right. It will be a 400hp car priced in the range of a 4 cylinder supra. Undercutting Toyota by a high margin. And with the option of manual? If Toyota doesn't offer a manual by next model year? You will see loads of supra trade in's at Nissan dealerships.

As far as the corvette goes. The c8 now, is what the z34 was... a standalone car. The corvettes competitors are about $100,000 above its weight class. So the Z35 will in no shape way or form be a corvette competitor.
The camaro and mustang drive like sports cars instead of muscle cars. Since 2013, the American market has dominated the foreign market. We haven't seen anything like this since the Buick Grand National and the Pontaic Firebird GTA.
But even still... i don't see this Z as a direct competitor to muscle. I see the Supra & Z as its own rivalry revisited. And hopefully mazda & Mitsubishi will bring their competitors into the fight.

I fell in love with the Q60 engine. And I have wet dreams about the VR30 getting a real transmission & stiffer chassis thats lacking in the Q60. Also. If the development of the Z somehow improves the Q60 drastically in its refresh? Will the Z be the car to buy? Or the Q60? Cuz the Q60 is gorgeous!! Its going to be an interesting year.
Chevy patented a high compression 5.7 pushrod 350cu v8. So we may even see another American sleeper??? Im just glad that the sports car arena is finally perking up and we are seeing new options.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/it-does...w-nissan-400z/

On another note. People are hatinv on the Proto Z. Smh.

1. Its a proto. So there's room for improvement.
2. With all the whining for a manual car? Nissan DELIVERED!!
3. The overall shape is beautiful despite a desperate need for aesthetic and physical improvements being needed.
4. 400hp 2seat coupe in the low 40k range? Who else is doing it at that price?

This is what i hate about the American enthusiast market.
We are the least enthusiastic and least satisfied, then wonder why we dont get foreign nations best cars!!
People are ridiculous.

I agree on basically all of this. It's a tuner's dream as well with the ease of additional power we can coax out of that platform. It's a niche car for sure. I don't want to bet all my chips on the 400hp until we get that in writing from Nissan, but surely at this point they recognize that's what we want and they have the tools in the shed for that already.

They have to have learned from the mistakes Toyota made with the Supra. Regardless of your opinion of the car (blah blah BMW blah blah), I think pricing it within 10k of the Corvette was their biggest folly. Granted, that only gets you the basiest of the base Corvette and you can't actually pay 60k for one for another year or so due to demand. But still. If you can afford a 50k car, why wouldn't you save just a little longer for a 60k one that punches waaaay above its weight class? Hence, Nissan need to price this thing competitively and provide more value at the same time. Chevy pulled that off, and here's Nissan's chance to do it too. I still believe that if Toyota doesn't reduce the Supra price or give it more bang for the buck, the Z and Vette will be the only two options and it'll die for another 20 years.

All this to say, if this turns out how we predict and they fix that horrendous nose on the Z, I think a lot of us will find ourselves at dealers preordering. Time will tell whether all of our speculations are correct. But hot DAMN isn't it so fun watching it play out?

axmea? · 09-24-2020, 11:10 AM

How about this. Much closer and more detailed so far.

MZ DAIZY · 09-24-2020, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

How about this. Much closer and more detailed so far.

Can we get some more info on what’s really important? Drivetrain please!

axmea? · 09-24-2020, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

Can we get some more info on what’s really important? Drivetrain please!

I'm sending Antman to take video.

Ventruck · 09-24-2020, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

Can we get some more info on what’s really important? Drivetrain please!

underrated channel. He geeks out on stuff in a good way, and actually has the journalist mindset of presentation instead of vlogging.

Andaesthetics · 09-24-2020, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

How about this. Much closer and more detailed so far.

[YOUTUBE]uax0JxzbUzY[YOUTUBE]

You know after watching this video it got me thinking. Seeing that the interior now has that yellow stitching to match the exterior paint, do you guys think that will be a customizable option? I really hope so. Also the same goes for the brake calipers; will we be able to choose different color calipers? Because with the current gen they only come in red.

I think if they had 3-4 color options for the calipers/stitching that would be perfect, let's say: yellow, red, black, grey? Those 4 colors can accent well with just about any exterior color.

TaroBaapG35 · 09-24-2020, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics

You know after watching this video it got me thinking. Seeing that the interior now has that yellow stitching to match the exterior paint, do you guys think that will be a customizable option? I really hope so. Also the same goes for the brake calipers; will we be able to choose different color calipers? Because with the current gen they only come in red.

I think if they had 3-4 color options for the calipers/stitching that would be perfect, let's say: yellow, red, black, grey? Those 4 colors can accent well with just about any exterior color.

HIGHLY doubt Nissan will offer customizable colors on stitching/calipers. Very niche products (Porsche, BMW, Audi) offer these options albeit for lot of $$. On my Audi currently, if i wanted to change the interior stitching color when ordered I would have to pay upwards of $1100 per area i wanted changed (seats, dashboard, etc). Calipers were $2.5k. I could get them powdercoated for under $1k aftermarket.

They'll stick with the Black/Red for calipers since its their Nismo/Racing heritage. I'd take the Orange or yellow anyday but its doubtful. :/

Can't wait for more details on the car.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-27-2020, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics

You know after watching this video it got me thinking. Seeing that the interior now has that yellow stitching to match the exterior paint, do you guys think that will be a customizable option? I really hope so. Also the same goes for the brake calipers; will we be able to choose different color calipers? Because with the current gen they only come in red.

I think if they had 3-4 color options for the calipers/stitching that would be perfect, let's say: yellow, red, black, grey? Those 4 colors can accent well with just about any exterior color.

I rhink itll be like the 04 to 06 pontiac GTO was. Certain colors will have matching stich. Yellow red n blue will match. The rest of the colors will be white stitch

atomic aces · 09-24-2020, 11:51 AM

^ Awesome video, very detailed. Thanks for sharing!

Andaesthetics · 09-24-2020, 10:42 PM

Another up close look. Skip to 06:30

My overall opinion of the Z Proto has definitely changed. It looks much better than I originally perceived. I can say I like most of the new design besides the square grille. That is my only gripe, which I'm certain they'll change. Otherwise I think everything else looks good.

09-24-2020, 11:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,243 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53242	More vid How about this. Much closer and more detailed so far. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete

09-24-2020, 11:51 AM	#14 (permalink)
atomic aces Base Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: GA Posts: 54 Drives: '09 335i E92 6MT Rep Power: 12	^ Awesome video, very detailed. Thanks for sharing! __________________ '90 240SX Hatch SOLD, '95 Integra GSR SOLD, '00 Impreza 2.5RS SOLD, '02 RSX TYPE-S SOLD, '03 YZF-R6 SOLD, '07 350Z SOLD, '12 370Z SOLD, '09 335i E92 CURRENT

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Andaesthetics Base Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: PA Posts: 115 Drives: 14' Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 3362	Another up close look. Skip to 06:30 My overall opinion of the Z Proto has definitely changed. It looks much better than I originally perceived. I can say I like most of the new design besides the square grille. That is my only gripe, which I'm certain they'll change. Otherwise I think everything else looks good.