[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Firebase99 · 09-09-2016, 01:55 PM

I think the writing is on the wall boys. We need to be honest with ourselves. If there was a Z35 on the immediate horizon, there would be some news. The Z is dead.

JARblue · 09-09-2016, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

I think the writing is on the wall boys. We need to be honest with ourselves. If there was a Z35 on the immediate horizon, there would be some news. The Z is dead.

Well that is certainly a pessimistic stretch: there's not one that we know about coming soon, so there will never ever ever be one again

Firebase99 · 09-09-2016, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Well that is certainly a pessimistic stretch: there's not one that we know about coming soon, so there will never ever ever be one again

Think Z32 to Z33 process....

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-11-2016, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

I think the writing is on the wall boys. We need to be honest with ourselves. If there was a Z35 on the immediate horizon, there would be some news. The Z is dead.

Historically, Nissan doesn't hype the Z

It just comes out one year after sketches. The sketches are there. It's been 2 months

edk370 · 09-11-2016, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Historically, Nissan doesn't hype the Z

It just comes out one year after sketches. The sketches are there. It's been 2 months

True. But the Z34 was revealed in Nov 2008, and released Feb 2009. So they let you know 4 - 6 months in advance. That's just my train of thought.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-12-2016, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by edk370

True. But the Z34 was revealed in Nov 2008, and released Feb 2009. So they let you know 4 - 6 months in advance. That's just my train of thought.

We're far off from 4-6 months in advance.you'll see one next summer. The Q has to come out first. And pray the Z is on the lightweight Grip Z chassis and not the bloated FM platform. This is sickening already.

ThaeMaestro · 09-12-2016, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

We're far off from 4-6 months in advance.you'll see one next summer. The Q has to come out first. And pray the Z is on the lightweight Grip Z chassis and not the bloated FM platform. This is sickening already.

So im trying to find this weight on this Grip z and im not seeing it. Did nissan ever say what it was? Or was it like the rx concept where thy said they wanted to make a new roter engine that could run on hydrogen? Gonna need some sources. Couldnt find it...

Jordo! · 09-12-2016, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Historically, Nissan doesn't hype the Z

It just comes out one year after sketches. The sketches are there. It's been 2 months

I know you were hoping/predicting one that would be several hundred lbs lighter (which would be awesome!), but I think them continuing to bring out a slightly "leaner/meaner" Q and badging it as a Z is looking much more likely.

If the new Z is around 3500 lbs and 400 bhp, that sounds fine by me.

The current Z at its most bloated is like right around that, but with 80 less at the crank than what would (presumably) be an option for the new one. I really don't think it will suck if they keep the price/weight difference ratio between the next Z and the red sport RWD 3.0 Q60 as they had between the previous model Z and G.

EZT · 09-11-2016, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

I think the writing is on the wall boys. We need to be honest with ourselves. If there was a Z35 on the immediate horizon, there would be some news. The Z is dead.

We just got the Q series, the Z tends to follow that line up. Just because they aren't openly advertising anything or even discussing it. They don't have to until they want to.

Jordo! · 09-11-2016, 12:43 AM

I dunno about all that -- what do they mean by "new".

New platform (as promised/threatened) -- almost definitely not. A Z based on the current Q? I don't see why not. How different is the chassis? It's got the same 7AT right?

Different body panels, tighter suspension, etc. and you've got a "new" Z.

Could be worse. Beats that weird crossover thing or the idx.

I know no one here cross shopping Camaros or Mustangs wants to think about this, but despite the flagging sales for the FT-86, there a few new smaller sports cars out now: The new MX-5 RT is pretty sweet (but will need boost) as is the new sporty Fiat spider (very hot car -- just saw one the other day).

Sports cars will be available for sale -- the amount of muscle may require a lot of aftermarket tho, unless you want to go 'Merican.

I drove a new Mustang -- I liked my Z better -- but its a good car. I'm sure the latest Camaro is good too -- I still just don't really trust their reliability... but, they are definitely getting and looking better than their predecessors.

That said, if no new Z ever emerges (or the one that does is a disappointment), I am much more likely to buy (and boost) a new MX-5 than get an American Muscle car as my next purchase.

Nixin · 09-12-2016, 07:15 AM

Simply rebadging a Q to a Z will not cut it. Z's have always had their own specific style and performance level. I for one would never consider another Z if this was the case.

Jordo! · 09-12-2016, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixin

Simply rebadging a Q to a Z will not cut it. Z's have always had their own specific style and performance level. I for one would never consider another Z if this was the case.

Same chassis, different body panels, better suspension, different tune...

NISMO IX · 09-12-2016, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Same chassis, different body panels, better suspension, different tune...

Same Chassis is fine but the rest is what makes a Z a Z and separate from the BIGboy luxury G or Q. I may

a little by saying this but the G or Q has always been made to have slightly more room in the interior to fit the Merican Arse.

Jordo! · 09-12-2016, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX

Same Chassis is fine but the rest is what makes a Z a Z and separate from the BIGboy luxury G or Q. I may

a little by saying this but the G or Q has always been made to have slightly more room in the interior to fit the Merican Arse.

All I'm saying is: If there is a new Infiniti sport coupe on the market (there is) that is typically rolled out a year before the Z, which is also effectively the "sister" car for the Z, then it is very likely there will be a new Z that will have all the power + better handling etc. as that particular Infiniti coupe.

In short: It's a-comin'

MagmaRed370z · 09-12-2016, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

All I'm saying is: If there is a new Infiniti sport coupe on the market (there is) that is typically rolled out a year before the Z, which is also effectively the "sister" car for the Z, then it is very likely there will be a new Z that will have all the power + better handling etc. as that particular Infiniti coupe.

In short: It's a-comin'

09-09-2016, 01:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Firebase99 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: fl Posts: 1,372 Drives: 14 3.8 Gen Coupe GT Rep Power: 14034	I think the writing is on the wall boys. We need to be honest with ourselves. If there was a Z35 on the immediate horizon, there would be some news. The Z is dead. __________________ '14 3.8 Genesis Coupe, '13 Volvo S60, '04 Honda Accord, '13 370Z-sold, '05 350Z Touring-sold, '92 300Z Twin Turbo-sold, '82 280ZX-gone, '79 260Z-gone

09-11-2016, 12:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 419	I dunno about all that -- what do they mean by "new". New platform (as promised/threatened) -- almost definitely not. A Z based on the current Q? I don't see why not. How different is the chassis? It's got the same 7AT right? Different body panels, tighter suspension, etc. and you've got a "new" Z. Could be worse. Beats that weird crossover thing or the idx. I know no one here cross shopping Camaros or Mustangs wants to think about this, but despite the flagging sales for the FT-86, there a few new smaller sports cars out now: The new MX-5 RT is pretty sweet (but will need boost) as is the new sporty Fiat spider (very hot car -- just saw one the other day). Sports cars will be available for sale -- the amount of muscle may require a lot of aftermarket tho, unless you want to go 'Merican. I drove a new Mustang -- I liked my Z better -- but its a good car. I'm sure the latest Camaro is good too -- I still just don't really trust their reliability... but, they are definitely getting and looking better than their predecessors. That said, if no new Z ever emerges (or the one that does is a disappointment), I am much more likely to buy (and boost) a new MX-5 than get an American Muscle car as my next purchase. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it. Last edited by Jordo!; 09-11-2016 at 12:45 AM.

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09-12-2016, 07:15 AM	#11 (permalink)
Nixin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: GWN Posts: 3,488 Drives: Goodbye Z! Rep Power: 19833	Simply rebadging a Q to a Z will not cut it. Z's have always had their own specific style and performance level. I for one would never consider another Z if this was the case.