[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-06-2016, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

I wouldn't compare the sedan to the upcoming Z coupe if it happens. Smaller, lighter, better weight distribution, different suspension tuning. Engine and rear diff are probably the only things they will actually share.

And the AKEBONO brakes. But the Z should have better pads...

Jordo! · 06-06-2016, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr

Review of the 2016 Infiniti Q50 400HP Sports Sedan. Is this how the future Z35 is going to drive?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM2OMA1pnh0

Not a bad review -- thanks for sharing.

I'm cool with losing the steering column so long as they get it dialed in right.

It will probably be a tunable feature too, so you can get the inputs exactly as you want -- that's potentially pretty slick, actually.

Otherwise, based on the specs, I would expect the Z35 to weigh about as much as the Z34.

As to cost, whatever the difference is in cost between a G/Q and Z now is probably going to stay about the same.

As a point of reference: 2015 Q50 starting pricce = $37,150; 2015 370Z starting price = $29,990.

So, I think a Z is roughly 20% cheaper? If so, expect a similarly equipped Z35 to go for just under 40K.

I'm in, and if it sucks I'll buy that little Miata fastback and put a big blower on it

FPenvy · 06-06-2016, 08:39 PM

On the weight topic I'm curious because they listed this as a 13.0 1/4 mile at almost 3900lbs with an open diff. Imagine a 3300 lb car with a lsd and that engine. Could be something mean like a 12.7 or less stock 1/4 time

Jordo! · 06-06-2016, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

On the weight topic I'm curious because they listed this as a 13.0 1/4 mile at almost 3900lbs with an open diff. Imagine a 3300 lb car with a lsd and that engine. Could be something mean like a 12.7 or less stock 1/4 time

I think, again, you will probably find a proportionate difference in performance and weight between current Q/G and Z to be on par.

Point of reference:
2015 Q50 Curb weight = 3,574 lbs to 3,849 lbs
2015 370 Z Curb weight = 3,278 lbs to 3,510 lbs

So, we're in the same ball park, I think, on price, weight, and performance differences.

But, yeah, even with the viscous LSD, it would haul ass from a dead stop.

More importantly, twin turbos means lots of power potential with tuning

MagmaRed370z · 06-06-2016, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

On the weight topic I'm curious because they listed this as a 13.0 1/4 mile at almost 3900lbs with an open diff. Imagine a 3300 lb car with a lsd and that engine. Could be something mean like a 12.7 or less stock 1/4 time

I agree on this. Seriously Nissan, post at least a little teaser.

FPenvy · 06-06-2016, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I think, again, you will probably find a proportionate difference in performance and weight between current Q/G and Z to be on par.

Point of reference:

2015 Q50 Curb weight = 3,574 lbs to 3,849 lbs

2015 370 Z Curb weight = 3,278 lbs to 3,510 lbs

So, we're in the same ball park, I think, on price, weight, and performance differences.

But, yeah, even with the viscous LSD, it would haul ass from a dead stop.

More importantly, twin turbos means lots of power potential with tuning

I agree. Free up the exhaust and better intakes could net big gains on a boosted setup. Look at the gtr for example. I takes, exhaust, and tune nets 80-100whp typically.

Same thing on a Z could be nice.

RicerX · 06-07-2016, 07:50 AM

What Nissan will do (if they do anything) is slap the 300hp version of the engine in there and save the 400hp for a NISMO edition (if they even do that).

As a Q50 owner, I'm perplexed as to why the Red Sport, a model that is supposed to be the BMW M-Sport of the lineup, comes with **** tires and an open diff. That is some weak *** ****.

On top of that, the Q50 uses an R190 diff, and I have no idea who even makes an LSD for that, considering Nissan has used the R200 for the last 20 years worth of RWD sedans and coupes.

Spooler · 06-07-2016, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RicerX

What Nissan will do (if they do anything) is slap the 300hp version of the engine in there and save the 400hp for a NISMO edition (if they even do that).

As a Q50 owner, I'm perplexed as to why the Red Sport, a model that is supposed to be the BMW M-Sport of the lineup, comes with **** tires and an open diff. That is some weak *** ****.

On top of that, the Q50 uses an R190 diff, and I have no idea who even makes an LSD for that, considering Nissan has used the R200 for the last 20 years worth of RWD sedans and coupes.

Datsun/Nissan has been using he R200 since 1975, maybe earlier.

MagmaRed370z · 06-07-2016, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RicerX

What Nissan will do (if they do anything) is slap the 300hp version of the engine in there and save the 400hp for a NISMO edition (if they even do that)

That would turn me away pretty fast.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-07-2016, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I think, again, you will probably find a proportionate difference in performance and weight between current Q/G and Z to be on par.

Point of reference:
2015 Q50 Curb weight = 3,574 lbs to 3,849 lbs
2015 370 Z Curb weight = 3,278 lbs to 3,510 lbs

So, we're in the same ball park, I think, on price, weight, and performance differences.

But, yeah, even with the viscous LSD, it would haul ass from a dead stop.

More importantly, twin turbos means lots of power potential with tuning

Yeah but that's the sedan. Before you start comparing that you gotta look at the coupe which is about 100-150lbs lighter.
Then subtract about 300-400lbs when comparing to a Z.
Anything over 3,650 is the AWD And doesn't pertain to us either

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-07-2016, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RicerX

What Nissan will do (if they do anything) is slap the 300hp version of the engine in there and save the 400hp for a NISMO edition (if they even do that).

As a Q50 owner, I'm perplexed as to why the Red Sport, a model that is supposed to be the BMW M-Sport of the lineup, comes with **** tires and an open diff. That is some weak *** ****.

On top of that, the Q50 uses an R190 diff, and I have no idea who even makes an LSD for that, considering Nissan has used the R200 for the last 20 years worth of RWD sedans and coupes.

I dunno about that. There's rumor of an ipl version to arise with 450hp? It's all rumor now but??? You never know. That could be the $60k Z?

FPenvy · 06-07-2016, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I dunno about that. There's rumor of an ipl version to arise with 450hp? It's all rumor now but??? You never know. That could be the $60k Z?

Yes. back a bit when news on the engine was being released they mentioned that an ipl version with more hp was possible. I can't remember if it was said that its was 450 or our speculation but that would seem to be on point with a bit of a tuned version.

Dirk McGurck · 06-08-2016, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by schellingr

That would turn me away pretty fast.

Why? It will be easy to modify the 300HP to more than the 400HP, and probably for less money.

ramoszx12r · 06-08-2016, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

Why? It will be easy to modify the 300HP to more than the 400HP, and probably for less money.

For more HP yes but HP = $$$$

Chuck33079 · 06-08-2016, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ramoszx12r

For more HP yes but HP = $$$$

Not on a turbo motor. Most factory FI motors make a lot of power with basic bolt ons and a tune.

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RicerX Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: TN Posts: 597 Drives: To the Pizza joint. Rep Power: 7720	What Nissan will do (if they do anything) is slap the 300hp version of the engine in there and save the 400hp for a NISMO edition (if they even do that). As a Q50 owner, I'm perplexed as to why the Red Sport, a model that is supposed to be the BMW M-Sport of the lineup, comes with ** tires and an open diff. That is some weak * ****. On top of that, the Q50 uses an R190 diff, and I have no idea who even makes an LSD for that, considering Nissan has used the R200 for the last 20 years worth of RWD sedans and coupes. UNKNOWN_370 and terrapirata like this.

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