Looking to buy... question

madman555 · 09-14-2009, 12:43 PM

Hi all,

So I'm looking for a 370z Touring with the sports package and all the options (navi, floor mats, trunk mat, kick plates, splash guards).

I found a dealer with the color I wanted (PG). Here's what the Internet manager emailed me:

370Z Touring
Platinum Graphite
$41,640
Floor Mats, Navigation, Splash guards, Sports pkg
YOUR SPECIAL INTERNET PRICE $38,678

So I emailed him back telling him that based on my research, the invoice price is $37,796. I also told him that since the 2010s are coming out soon, my price would be $37,000.

He emailed me back saying that the number he gave me was the dealer invoice plus "cost for adds on the car which are Wheel locks, Door guards and Nitrogen filled tires".

What do you guys think? Thanks!

edeeZee · 09-14-2009, 12:57 PM

Tell him to remove the wheel locks, door guards and nitrogen filled tires.

madman555 · 09-14-2009, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edeeZee

Tell him to remove the wheel locks, door guards and nitrogen filled tires.

Don't I want the wheel locks? Or can I get those for a better price somewhere else? Thanks!

kdo2milger · 09-14-2009, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madman555

He emailed me back saying that the number he gave me was the dealer invoice plus "cost for adds on the car which are Wheel locks, Door guards and Nitrogen filled tires".

What do you guys think? Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by edeeZee

Tell him to remove the wheel locks, door guards and nitrogen filled tires.

kdo2milger · 09-14-2009, 01:14 PM

wheel locks are 51 bucks

nitrogen, well dont even pay for it

and door guards, did they have some sort of supernatural powers to protect you from door dings

madman555 · 09-14-2009, 01:19 PM

Awesome. What did you guys think of my $37,000 offer?

kdo2milger · 09-14-2009, 01:21 PM

i would ask for it at invoice or a few hundred less, say 37,500...

that extra 500 spread out in 60 months isnt going to break you on monthly pymts...just my

madman555 · 09-14-2009, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger

i would ask for it at invoice or a few hundred less, say 37,500...

that extra 500 spread out in 60 months isnt going to break you on monthly pymts...just my

He just replied back:

"Lets assume that I can remove those items.. The dealer Invoice is $38,278 on that vehicle and I would be more then happy to show it to you. If I sell you the car at Dealer invoice would you consider that a fair deal?"

I added up the prices in the invoice thread and got $37,796. I wonder if his price includes the destination fee. I guess I can either pay invoice now or wait until the 2010s hit and see how low the 09s drop.

tgm · 09-14-2009, 01:30 PM

is that out the door price? (including TTL)

FuszNissan · 09-14-2009, 01:32 PM

$37,000.00 Is to low in my opinion, but a couple hundred under invoice is fair.

FuszNissan · 09-14-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tgm

is that out the door price? (including TTL)

No way that is OTD

Namir · 09-14-2009, 02:02 PM

Agree with what everyone else is saying. Couple hundred under invoice is going to be a good deal, its still a hot car so they aren't desperate to push them off lots. Send him a break down of the items/packages on the car, their MSRPs and their INVOICE pricing. Then show him that the total = whatever you said it does. Ask him which items are incorrect or you are missing to achieve the invoice he is listing.

Make sure to include destination, its a significant chunk of change and its not the same as dealer fees.

madman555 · 09-14-2009, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namir

Agree with what everyone else is saying. Couple hundred under invoice is going to be a good deal, its still a hot car so they aren't desperate to push them off lots. Send him a break down of the items/packages on the car, their MSRPs and their INVOICE pricing. Then show him that the total = whatever you said it does. Ask him which items are incorrect or you are missing to achieve the invoice he is listing.

Make sure to include destination, its a significant chunk of change and its not the same as dealer fees.

Awesome advice. I told him that I was looking for $37,500 before everything for a total of about $41,000 OTD. He responded with cash or finance and that he would see how close he could get to that number. I'm a first time buyer and won't rush into anything but does cash vs financing make a difference?

703z · 09-14-2009, 03:53 PM

im just guessing but maybe cash is easier for them. Cash you show up with a check and drive off with the car. Finance they need to fill out paperwork and speak to the finance person and maybe they have some kind of processing fee for that. Just a guess though.

FuszNissan · 09-14-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by madman555

Awesome advice. I told him that I was looking for $37,500 before everything for a total of about $41,000 OTD. He responded with cash or finance and that he would see how close he could get to that number. I'm a first time buyer and won't rush into anything but does cash vs financing make a difference?

In a dealers eyes, yes. Financing they can mark up the intrest rate and capture more gross. So if the Dealer is going to take a skinny they have a change of making some gross in the back. Which isn't a bad thing, it allows them to make a deal.

09-14-2009, 12:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
madman555 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10 Drives: '05 Scion tC Rep Power: 17	Looking to buy... question Hi all, So I'm looking for a 370z Touring with the sports package and all the options (navi, floor mats, trunk mat, kick plates, splash guards). I found a dealer with the color I wanted (PG). Here's what the Internet manager emailed me: 370Z Touring Platinum Graphite $41,640 Floor Mats, Navigation, Splash guards, Sports pkg YOUR SPECIAL INTERNET PRICE $38,678 So I emailed him back telling him that based on my research, the invoice price is $37,796. I also told him that since the 2010s are coming out soon, my price would be $37,000. He emailed me back saying that the number he gave me was the dealer invoice plus "cost for adds on the car which are Wheel locks, Door guards and Nitrogen filled tires". What do you guys think? Thanks!

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kdo2milger OG Priesthood Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 17,859 Drives: NISMO T Rep Power: 60	wheel locks are 51 bucks nitrogen, well dont even pay for it and door guards, did they have some sort of supernatural powers to protect you from door dings __________________ Project *NISMO*

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kdo2milger OG Priesthood Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 17,859 Drives: NISMO T Rep Power: 60	i would ask for it at invoice or a few hundred less, say 37,500... that extra 500 spread out in 60 months isnt going to break you on monthly pymts...just my __________________ Project *NISMO*

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FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 543	$37,000.00 Is to low in my opinion, but a couple hundred under invoice is fair. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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Namir Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: OH and VA Posts: 627 Drives: 09 G37S 6MT Rep Power: 256	Agree with what everyone else is saying. Couple hundred under invoice is going to be a good deal, its still a hot car so they aren't desperate to push them off lots. Send him a break down of the items/packages on the car, their MSRPs and their INVOICE pricing. Then show him that the total = whatever you said it does. Ask him which items are incorrect or you are missing to achieve the invoice he is listing. Make sure to include destination, its a significant chunk of change and its not the same as dealer fees. __________________ Ambition is the path to success. Persistence is the vehicle you arrive in. G37S\|6MT\|PREM\|NAV\|Eibach\|Ichibia\|Injen

09-14-2009, 12:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
edeeZee Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: s. cali, los angeles Posts: 627 Drives: 09 370z plat 6 speed Rep Power: 267	Tell him to remove the wheel locks, door guards and nitrogen filled tires.

09-14-2009, 01:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
madman555 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10 Drives: '05 Scion tC Rep Power: 17	Awesome. What did you guys think of my $37,000 offer?

09-14-2009, 01:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
tgm Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: philadelphia Posts: 16 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	is that out the door price? (including TTL)

09-14-2009, 03:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
703z Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: va Posts: 17 Drives: Clk Rep Power: 16	im just guessing but maybe cash is easier for them. Cash you show up with a check and drive off with the car. Finance they need to fill out paperwork and speak to the finance person and maybe they have some kind of processing fee for that. Just a guess though.

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