2014 Zs are up online

Brutal 370Z · 07-29-2013, 10:32 AM

LOL ^ I'm still dreaming about it though

I've got a good relationship with the dealer so hopefully that helps

synolimit · 07-29-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by enkei2k

I thought you were comparing MSRP pricing on a 2013 vs a 2014 Z? So you have to think what the rate was back then to what it is now when they set the price.

2013 - MSRP $33,120. When they announced the pricing back in 2013, Yen was 78/1

2014 - MSRP $29,990 Yen is now 98/1

I'm just saying why not wait and see what the 2014 pricing/option changes would be like before getting a 2013? As a consumer I would be knowing full well that a 2014 was coming since they announced a 2014 Nismo way back in March/April. Why not wait and see? If you like the changes go get a 2014, if you didn't like the changes get a 2013.

Wait...but I think you said you leased it right? I read on this forum that leasing this car is a bad idea for whatever reasons it was, I don't recall. So, maybe that's why you're so upset.

Anyway, seems like we'll all just agree to disagree here.

Ok I get the yen thing. Not enough knowledge to comment but waiting a whole year to drop the price is to long. The price should have already dropped 6 months ago and I'd be in the car for the right price. As a guy said earlier that's owns a business or something, they do it every 6 months. Nissan should have dropped the price or rebated the 13's 6 months before the release price of the 14's, period!

I didn't wait because I've never seen such a thing! Every car and bike I've ever owned has increased in price year to year, never dropped!!!! 1000cc jap bikes used to be $10k, now we're hitting $15k and every two years is a redesign. WRX is the same thing, 2 years turn around with a price jack of about $500. I didn't wait because history proves its self in my eyes.

Everyone is wrong about leasing! You always lease and I've proved that today!!!! My car will be worth dog **** and I have the option not to buy it. When the lease is up I give it back! All you buyers are f'ed without a rebate. If the cars value went up and not down I'd buy it and sell it for a profit, lease wins again. Cheaper monthly payment, lease wins. Before all this happened with what I'd have to pay for a lease then buy it vs. just buying it, id of paid like $2000 more, but $380 a month vs. $650 a month is worth spending $2000 more over the life of the loan because I can't afford $650 a month for 5 years!!

synolimit · 07-29-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by alvitdk

Really, you expect a manufacturer to tell everybody..."hey just wait a couple of month, we will slash the prices and you should not go out and by the car until than"??? for 7 weeks, really?

In what world of business do you guys live actually, you bought a car you like, so go out and drive it instead of trying to chase an idea, you will not get any money back nor do I think Nissan did anything wrong! And no, I don't have money laying around, but I paid what I thought the car was worth, and was fine with it for the last 3 month, so what is different now. I don't worry about resale value, if you do, than a used 3 Year old car would have been a much better choice to begin with.

Umm I live in a world that cars don't drop $3600 in a year. If anything they go up $500. And I live in a world that 2 months out you normally see a nice fat rebate on left overs since the new year will be here. I don't know what world you live in but clearly you don't have a clue how the car industry works!

peleincubus · 07-29-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Infidel

Good guess einstein...that's the way it is when the new models first come out.

#1 I can tell by your reply, and the reply before and after mine. That rude as hell. (Seriously how does someone have 3 b*tech posts in a row like that)

#2 it does not matter "when the models first come out" what matters is the INVOICE because that is how much the car actually is. And unless my assumption is wrong then the invoice and msrp are closer together then they used to be.

But if they are not more power to me and anyone else buying a 2014 model this year. But my bet is I am right.

synolimit · 07-29-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ElVee

So, what should Nissan do to avoid the pissed off people? I see three options.

1) Don't drop the price unless the price reflects a drop in materials or whatever.

2) Refund $3000 to everyone who has purchased a 2013 Z in the last 3 months. (Of course, what about that poor shmuck who bought it 3 months and 1 day ago?)

3) Stop selling the car for a period of time as a buffer window to a price change. Then after X time, start selling the car again for that price. (This may also be invoked by warning your customers of the price drop, which any rational customer will just not buy for a while.)

If you were a business owner faced with a similar decision, what would you do? Regardless of size, you have your own numbers to deal with and people working for you to whom you're responsible.

If you were a business owner of a public business that answers to stakeholders (investors), what would you do and/or tell your investors?

In the end, you do what's right for your business. Yes pleasing customers is what ultimately is right for the business, but it's not always that easy or clear cut.

Unfortunately you hit the nail on the head and are right about the time frame. People will get F'ed 1 days over but you have to do it. But you don't set the time frame a few days out!! A few months yes! And as I said earlier nissan must redo all leases. No ones going to buy out their lease when a 14 lease buy out will be so much smaller. Thousands of used 13's will flood the market and sit because who would pay 21k for a 13 in aug 16 vs. a 18k 14 in sep 16?

DEpointfive0 · 07-29-2013, 10:56 AM

It's amazing how polarizing this issue is.

italy3541 · 07-29-2013, 10:58 AM

2014 Nissan 370Z pricing announced, MSRP reduced by $3,000 - Autoblog

synolimit · 07-29-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by peleincubus

#1 I can tell by your reply, and the reply before and after mine. That rude as hell. (Seriously how does someone have 3 b*tech posts in a row like that)

#2 it does not matter "when the models first come out" what matters is the INVOICE because that is how much the car actually is. And unless my assumption is wrong then the invoice and msrp are closer together then they used to be.

But if they are not more power to me and anyone else buying a 2014 model this year. But my bet is I am right.

Whats it matter the gap? Even a little gap is still under what people paid and people are still out money and nissan should do the right thing.

Here's the 13, ill get you all the 14 soon!

Base 14 msrp $29,999, base sport $33,020. You're out money before you even begin to negotiate.

peleincubus · 07-29-2013, 11:42 AM

I'm not saying if it is right or wrong. My point was it may not actually be a $3600 price drop. It may be $2300-$2600 something like that.

And if I had bought a 2013 and this happened I would at the least be annoyed.

onzedge · 07-29-2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by peleincubus

I'm not saying if it is right or wrong. My point was it may not actually be a $3600 price drop. It may be $2300-$2600 something like that.

And if I had bought a 2013 and this happened I would at the least be annoyed.

synolimit · 07-29-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by peleincubus

I'm not saying if it is right or wrong. My point was it may not actually be a $3600 price drop. It may be $2300-$2600 something like that.

And if I had bought a 2013 and this happened I would at the least be annoyed.

Well if invoice is a difference of $2094 in 13 on a base I think its fair to say its close on the 14. God forbid anyone that paid msrp, that's $3121 msrp vs msrp than another $2094 if its true for the 14 invoice. That person just lost $5215!!!

shadoquad · 07-29-2013, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by peleincubus

I'm not saying if it is right or wrong. My point was it may not actually be a $3600 price drop. It may be $2300-$2600 something like that.

And if I had bought a 2013 and this happened I would at the least be annoyed.

There are a lot of factors that can drop resale, though. Buyer's remorse stings when these things happen, but I wouldn't pop a vessel over it. Enjoy the car you bought. The Z isn't exotic and rare, it will not appreciate in value. What is 3k of difference new may be 500 bucks difference when you sell in 5, 10, 15 yrs.

SS_Firehawk · 07-29-2013, 12:09 PM

I think Synolimit is trying to become an elite member from one thread.

synolimit · 07-29-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

There are a lot of factors that can drop resale, though. Buyer's remorse stings when these things happen, but I wouldn't pop a vessel over it. Enjoy the car you bought. The Z isn't exotic and rare, it will not appreciate in value. What is 3k of difference new may be 500 bucks difference when you sell in 5, 10, 15 yrs.

and what about the people who want to sell it sooner? as you said this isnt an exotic car or rare. i dont think people will keep a 13 z for 15 years. its not an old 60-70z that i see people still own. to me its just a car, no more, no less. therefore i have an issue with not being able to sell it if i was an owner like some here who are like me. again i leased so nissan can have the expensive turd back in 2016 so i can get a 2016. but i would like to keep it since im putting so much time and money into it. i just dont want to pay so much for it since 14 owners can buy out for so much less.

synolimit · 07-29-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

I think Synolimit is trying to become an elite member from one thread.

just trying to be an advocate and get something done like .50 is trying to do for some.

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peleincubus Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Austin, tx Posts: 255 Drives: PW 14' 370Z Rep Power: 13	I'm not saying if it is right or wrong. My point was it may not actually be a $3600 price drop. It may be $2300-$2600 something like that. And if I had bought a 2013 and this happened I would at the least be annoyed.