Racing Brakes and Rotors

[daisi145]

I would like to get racing brakes and rotors for my 2009 370Z Sport/Touring. What should I buy? I'm looking for something that can stand 100 degree heat as much as possible. I don't mind a little expensive, but not too much...

Daisi

[fuct]

does your car see any track time?

[JARblue]

Get ready to pay to play. AP Racing and Racing Brake make the ones I have seen most commonly on the forum. I think you'll be looking at upwards of $1000 for a pair of rotors.

[cv129]

"...can stand 100 degree heat..."

I think stock brakes can withstand 100 degree heat, Celsius or Fahrenheit.

[Mike]

are you wanting calipers? or pads? I'm extremely happy with my stoptech trophy kit. In you climate, I would also highly recommend the Stillen brake cooling duct kit, even for a daily driver.

[jcosta79]

Here you go: Alcon brakes & clutches



They're not small...



The red calipers behind the Alcons are Brembo MonoBlock 6-Pistons:

[cv129]

Sure the Alcon kit is big enough? Lol I kept thinking about Brock Lesnar when I looked at that pic

[jcosta79]

Originally Posted by cv129

Sure the Alcon kit is big enough? Lol I kept thinking about Brock Lesnar when I looked at that pic

If you want more braking than that, you need a brick wall.

[Vichtz]

Now THAT is a caliper...

[daisi145]

I live in the desert where temperatures reach upwards of 130 F. I usually wont' race if it's above 100. My car has seen track time, and a brand new set of stock brakes burned out after about 5 laps.

So I need racing brake fluid, racing brakes, and I was thinking about some new rotors.

I don't want to spend a ton of money, and I don't want them to look strange and/or make extra noise or anything. I want them to work better than stock brakes but I'm not looking to trick out my car.

Thanks for the ideas, but anyone got a link to a set of brakes that aren't huge calipers?

Daisi

[jcosta79]

Originally Posted by daisi145

I live in the desert where temperatures reach upwards of 130 F. I usually wont' race if it's above 100. My car has seen track time, and a brand new set of stock brakes burned out after about 5 laps.

So I need racing brake fluid, racing brakes, and I was thinking about some new rotors.

I don't want to spend a ton of money, and I don't want them to look strange and/or make extra noise or anything. I want them to work better than stock brakes but I'm not looking to trick out my car.

Thanks for the ideas, but anyone got a link to a set of brakes that aren't huge calipers?

Daisi

Honestly, I would spend my money on:

• A good racing brake fluid like Castrol SRF
• A set of stainless steel brake lines (I believe StopTech makes a set)
• A set of 2 piece rotors that will fit your stock calipers (I am assuming you have the Sports Package brakes) that I believe StopTech makes for the car
• A brake cooling kit that mounts on the spindles and ducts cool air into your rotors (I'm not sure who makes this for the 370Z but I have seen guys that have it)
• A set of track day pads

These mods will probably serve you better than just buying a big brake kit which will still likely require you to add at least some of the mods mentioned above anyway.

[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by jcosta79

Honestly, I would spend my money on:

• A good racing brake fluid like Castrol SRF (Go with Motul RBF600 or the AP Racing fluid - its what almost everyone runs who tracks their Z)
• A set of stainless steel brake lines (I believe StopTech makes a set) (Not needed, at all)
• A set of 2 piece rotors that will fit your stock calipers (I am assuming you have the Sports Package brakes) that I believe StopTech makes for the car (He wants to save money, not waste it. Just get some good blank rotors and, if possible, get them cryo-treated. Brembo blanks, or Powerstop would work just dandy)
• A brake cooling kit that mounts on the spindles and ducts cool air into your rotors (I'm not sure who makes this for the 370Z but I have seen guys that have it) (Stillen makes a kit. It supposedly works decent, but I dont have first-hand experience with it)
• A set of track day pads (Carbotech XP10 front, XP8 rear is the accepted standard)

These mods will probably serve you better than just buying a big brake kit which will still likely require you to add at least some of the mods mentioned above anyway.

Read above.

All said and done, the brake pads will be around $300 (these are track ONLY brake pads, btw - if you want street pads, look for their street compound). Rotors will probably be around 500-600 give or take. Fluid, another 20-30 at least.

[jcosta79]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Read above.

All said and done, the brake pads will be around $300 (these are track ONLY brake pads, btw - if you want street pads, look for their street compound). Rotors will probably be around 500-600 give or take. Fluid, another 20-30 at least.

Forgive me, but that is poor advice. If you are going to track your car, especially in a climate as extreme as the Middle East, the LAST place you want to skimp on is your brakes.

Motul RBF 600 is good stuff, but if you want extreme heat protection, Castrol SRF is what you want. There's a reason it costs $80 a bottle versus $15 for Motul.

Stainless lines not needed? I've seen OEM rubber lines literally melt right off a caliper after a day of hot lapping. And for the mild investment needed (around $150 a set) it just makes sense to upgrade them.

2-piece rotors are a waste of money? The reason you want to go with a 2-piece rotor is to SAVE money in the long run. Stock rotors don't handle the stress/heat of track days very well and you will start going through them (cracking them) on a regular basis. The 2-piece configuration saves weight, is better at dissipating heat than a 1-piece rotor, and allows you to replace just the friction ring versus having to buy a whole rotor assembly every time they wear out. They're not that expensive. I've seen a front set of 2-piece rotors for $650. The replacement friction rings (the only parts you will need to replace after purchasing the initial set) will be much less expensive. Also, you won't need 2-piece rotors for the rear. The fronts are what do the majority of the braking and consequently take the majority of the abuse.

Whatever cooling kit you go with, make sure the duct mounts directly to the spindle so that the cooling air goes to the center of the rotor and forces air to travel through the middle of the disc (from the center, outwards).

Pads are a personal choice. You will likely go through a few different sets of pads before finding your ideal combination.

[Presto]

Being in the middle east and having attended a trackday in our current summer weather I can say that my racing brake 2 piece rotors and ET500 pads along with their stainless steel brake lines and motul rbf600 fluid held up great.
Absolutely no brake fade whatsoever.