This is the reason why I hate shopping for cars

cossie1600 · 06-21-2009, 08:07 AM

I think I was in there for less than 30 minutes, I had my numbers in mind and know what it has to be before I sign the paperwork. I told them as long as I get the car for X and the Y for trade in, I would sign the paperwork. But he still at to spend the next 15 minutes running back and forth trying to play the manager games with me (funny thing is that he said less than 20 feet away on some high chair/table), not that I can't hear them.

I already looked at two other dealerships, I just didn't get the color I want and therefore I walked. So when they tried to give me the I can only sell it at sticker BS, I just laughed it off. He also sounded shock when I gave him the my monthly payment and it matched what I was looking for. It seems like he couldn't believe I can do payment calculation, this is why I hate car shopping.

tranceformer · 06-21-2009, 08:48 AM

I had a dealer give me the "we don't accept VPP on the 370z" bs. I said, "that's fine, i will find another dealership that will. kthxbai". A few hours later I sealed the deal at another dealership. Good luck with the search.

m4a1mustang · 06-21-2009, 09:03 AM

All salesmen are taught to treat every customer like a potential buyer, even though it turns out that most people that come in to the dealerships have no intention of buying.

Also, trying to sell a customer on payments should be borderline criminal. There are a lot of people out there that would choose a lower payment with a longer term (and higher total cost) than a higher payment and lower total cost and totally think they are getting a better deal because their payments are lower. Granted, you should take the highest monthly payment and shortest term possible within reason.

cossie1600 · 06-21-2009, 01:34 PM

Then they lose a deal, as simple as that, no need to play stupid games.

Ghetto2315 · 06-21-2009, 09:06 PM

Just curious... what is your trade? Year, Make, Model, Miles??

95% of the people who walk in to a dealership looking to trade in their car has a # that is WAY over...

cossie1600 · 06-21-2009, 11:19 PM

06 Chevy Corvette 20K miles.

People are over because they always say we should look at the blue book, yet they don't use the blue book on their trade.

If they can't give me the price, I have no problem, just don't waste my time with lame excuses. It's like dating a girl who dragged you out for multiple expensive dates, then she dumps you because she just wants a free meal

Ghetto2315 · 06-22-2009, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600

06 Chevy Corvette 20K miles.

People are over because they always say we should look at the blue book, yet they don't use the blue book on their trade.

If they can't give me the price, I have no problem, just don't waste my time with lame excuses. It's like dating a girl who dragged you out for multiple expensive dates, then she dumps you because she just wants a free meal

You are right, we don't. We use a book called Galves, which isn't available to the public. KBB is the next best thing for the general public to use as a guide, but as a guide only. Galves is updated bi-weekly so it takes into account the economy and market. Not knowing your Vette's options, it's in the book for "around" $26,000 in excellent condition. No more than $27,000 and not less than $25,000.

What did they offer you? I am assuming your Vette is in excellent shape and a clean carfax?

cossie1600 · 06-22-2009, 12:03 PM

Your price doesn't include options like NAV and glassroof and other options that change the price. I was given 24K for the car at this dealer. 29K at the dealer that didn't have the options I want. Like I said, I have no problem if they don't want to sell it. Dont ask me to name a price and then tried to lie about it by playing the payment games with me.

STI-GUY · 07-14-2009, 08:02 AM

For every smart car buyer (and with the advent of this thing called the internet and time and research more should be) there are 3 that are completely clueless. Most individuals dont walk into a dealership and go yes I am buying. Most kick-tires. From the salespersons view they want commision it is a business and you cant blame them for playing the %'s. If you are jacked on this particluar car they feel you will be back.
If not there will be others that will pull the trigger.
This is a new model and a great performance bargain.
Clearly they are moving 370Z's.
Also it is not the car dealerships fault if you are upside down in your trade...maybe you should have thought or walked away from your previous deal.
Nevertheless maybe you shouldn't be searching for a new car in the first place.
The best car is one that is paid for.
I doubt the dealership would low ball you on your trade by 5k if it was truly in the shape you claim it was.
Bottomline:
You shouldn't bring baggage to the dealership to buy a new car and then get pissed because your upside down in your trade or your car is not worth what you really think it is.
If you dont NEED a car , advantage consumer.
Patience is a virtue my friend.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO ANOTHER DEALERSHIP!

06-21-2009, 08:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
tranceformer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Palm Beach, FL Posts: 1,213 Drives: 2009 370Z PW 6MT Rep Power: 269	I had a dealer give me the "we don't accept VPP on the 370z" bs. I said, "that's fine, i will find another dealership that will. kthxbai". A few hours later I sealed the deal at another dealership. Good luck with the search. __________________ Ray 2009 370Z Base Sport 6MT / 12.860 @ 109.09mph / 1.921 60ft / street tires official 1/4 mile track times

06-21-2009, 09:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	All salesmen are taught to treat every customer like a potential buyer, even though it turns out that most people that come in to the dealerships have no intention of buying. Also, trying to sell a customer on payments should be borderline criminal. There are a lot of people out there that would choose a lower payment with a longer term (and higher total cost) than a higher payment and lower total cost and totally think they are getting a better deal because their payments are lower. Granted, you should take the highest monthly payment and shortest term possible within reason. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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06-21-2009, 08:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	I think I was in there for less than 30 minutes, I had my numbers in mind and know what it has to be before I sign the paperwork. I told them as long as I get the car for X and the Y for trade in, I would sign the paperwork. But he still at to spend the next 15 minutes running back and forth trying to play the manager games with me (funny thing is that he said less than 20 feet away on some high chair/table), not that I can't hear them. I already looked at two other dealerships, I just didn't get the color I want and therefore I walked. So when they tried to give me the I can only sell it at sticker BS, I just laughed it off. He also sounded shock when I gave him the my monthly payment and it matched what I was looking for. It seems like he couldn't believe I can do payment calculation, this is why I hate car shopping.

06-21-2009, 01:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	Then they lose a deal, as simple as that, no need to play stupid games.

06-21-2009, 09:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ghetto2315 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Rumson, NJ Posts: 17 Drives: MB Rep Power: 18	Just curious... what is your trade? Year, Make, Model, Miles?? 95% of the people who walk in to a dealership looking to trade in their car has a # that is WAY over...

06-21-2009, 11:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	06 Chevy Corvette 20K miles. People are over because they always say we should look at the blue book, yet they don't use the blue book on their trade. If they can't give me the price, I have no problem, just don't waste my time with lame excuses. It's like dating a girl who dragged you out for multiple expensive dates, then she dumps you because she just wants a free meal

06-22-2009, 12:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	Your price doesn't include options like NAV and glassroof and other options that change the price. I was given 24K for the car at this dealer. 29K at the dealer that didn't have the options I want. Like I said, I have no problem if they don't want to sell it. Dont ask me to name a price and then tried to lie about it by playing the payment games with me.

07-14-2009, 08:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
STI-GUY Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Left of Center Posts: 11 Drives: See Screen Name Rep Power: 272	For every smart car buyer (and with the advent of this thing called the internet and time and research more should be) there are 3 that are completely clueless. Most individuals dont walk into a dealership and go yes I am buying. Most kick-tires. From the salespersons view they want commision it is a business and you cant blame them for playing the %'s. If you are jacked on this particluar car they feel you will be back. If not there will be others that will pull the trigger. This is a new model and a great performance bargain. Clearly they are moving 370Z's. Also it is not the car dealerships fault if you are upside down in your trade...maybe you should have thought or walked away from your previous deal. Nevertheless maybe you shouldn't be searching for a new car in the first place. The best car is one that is paid for. I doubt the dealership would low ball you on your trade by 5k if it was truly in the shape you claim it was. Bottomline: You shouldn't bring baggage to the dealership to buy a new car and then get pissed because your upside down in your trade or your car is not worth what you really think it is. If you dont NEED a car , advantage consumer. Patience is a virtue my friend. YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO ANOTHER DEALERSHIP!