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Seriously, a lot of you guys think that Nissan dealers are desperate to whore out 370s. They're not Accords or Camrys that sell 200-300K annually. You went too far bro.

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Old 05-18-2009, 01:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Seriously, a lot of you guys think that Nissan dealers are desperate to whore out 370s. They're not Accords or Camrys that sell 200-300K annually.

You went too far bro. I'm a former car salesman, and if they don't contact you back, forget it.

$1,000 over invoice is a good deal. $1,500 is OK. Don't expect Nissan stores to act desperate to whore out a 370. There are people who got a lot more money than you that'll let these dealerships make some profit.

My suggestion: visit another Nissan store, don't mention "invoice, invoice, invoice." You're trying to make yourself seem like you know what you're doing, but you don't (with all due respect). Say they do let you have it at invoice, they'll rape you on the back-end in APR, accessories i.e. $400 wheel locks, $1,500 scotch guard, $3,000 extended warranty, $1,700 Lojack, etc. And you know what? You're going to pay interest on all these accessories so they'll more than make their money back even if the front-end was skinny or at invoice.
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Seriously, a lot of you guys think that Nissan dealers are desperate to whore out 370s. They're not Accords or Camrys that sell 200-300K annually.

You went too far bro. I'm a former car salesman, and if they don't contact you back, forget it.

$1,000 over invoice is a good deal. $1,500 is OK. Don't expect Nissan stores to act desperate to whore out a 370. There are people who got a lot more money than you that'll let these dealerships make some profit.

The way I see it is this, if they are making a profit on these cars, they will continue to do so, but if they are not, they will drop the price to "move" cars.

Your probably right, I went too far for my local dealers - my local dealers must be making a good profit and selling a decent amount of 370z's. That would explain why I had to resort to out of state to get the deal I wanted.

Why is it that person I spoke with in CA made the first offer below invoice, I didnt even ask for invoice yet? And He told me if I ordered one from factory and waited, he'd give me an even better discount as apposed to getting one thats in a dealer lot somewhere in CA.

while you have a point, nobody wants to spend more money, the dealer knows this. Its human nature to get the best deal out of things, this applies to both the dealership and customers. One is just better versed at it than the other most of the time.
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Seriously, a lot of you guys think that Nissan dealers are desperate to whore out 370s. They're not Accords or Camrys that sell 200-300K annually.

You went too far bro. I'm a former car salesman, and if they don't contact you back, forget it.

$1,000 over invoice is a good deal. $1,500 is OK. Don't expect Nissan stores to act desperate to whore out a 370. There are people who got a lot more money than you that'll let these dealerships make some profit.

Sounds like you're still a car salesmen and don't know the fine art of negotiation. I paid 1k under. What do you have to say about that sales guy?
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Sounds like you're still a car salesmen and don't know the fine art of negotiation. I paid 1k under. What do you have to say about that sales guy?
Agreed, in these times I wouldn't settle for anything less than invoice. I paid $600 under invoice and didn't even have to fight for it, I'm sure I could have squeezed them for more if I really wanted to but I was being nice. 3 years ago you would have been paying $1K over invoice but not now. If you don't like haggling just find a dealer willing to sell it on the VPP program.
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^ i agree with that guy. i worked with 10 dealers before choosing the one i placed my order with. this one dealer kept it real. i got the car a couple bucks under invoice. other dealers quoted 300, 600, 1000 over invoice. give me a break, i don't care what car it is... everyone's struggling and at the end of the day, it's a nissan. some of these dealers act like it's a one-of-a-kind car.

at the end of one of the emails i got the manager said "so what's your offer? keep in mind this is a limited production sports car and there are no rebates". i shot back with my offer and a "please keep in mind nissan sales were down 36% in april compared to last year". even at invoice, they make decent money. not only that, but if they're nice enough to work with me, i'll gladly refer people to them - customers they otherwise wouldn't have.
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