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Originally Posted by Tenorino Gnarf: Another victim of great marketing. I don't know what they drive in Jersey but the brokers and doctors who drive the GT3's around in LA

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Old 06-17-2009, 02:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Gnarf: Another victim of great marketing. I don't know what they drive in Jersey but the brokers and doctors who drive the GT3's around in LA I doubt ever see the track. Oh, and do you really think all the buyers of the Nismo will fork over $40k for a car they will only pull out to take to the track?? Dude, you're on drugs. The majority of people buy Ferraris and Porsche to be seen in them on Freeways and race stoplight to stoplight, not to abuse in front of a few gearheads on a track.
Are you seriously going to start flaming on a 370Z forum when you're driving an overglorified convertible?

The NISMO is meant to be a high performance street car; yet it can be easily tracked... just an oil cooler, maybe a better diff (lol VLSDs suck for any kind of driving, better get that clutch type!).

Plus that majority are the people that really just don't "enjoy" cars. You can never feel the true potential of a car by street racing, which is horrible and irresponsible in the first place, regardless of your driving skill or how empty the road is.

Also remember that Ferrari's, Porsche's, those European sports cars are made for luxury speed; remember the driving rules in Europe are much different; they can go pretty damn fast all over the place too. When you take a stock Ferrari, more than likely it's not a capable track car at all; all that weight added on from the luxury, etc. Think the standard F430 compared to the F430 Scuderia. Huge difference.

That being said, the NISMO is not truly a pure track car, but it can handle the track a lot better than any stock 370Z could, regardless of trim or options. If I had bought a NISMO 350Z (in Red, at the Evanston Autobarn Nissan in Chicago, 30,500?), I'd likely drive that thing on the street a vast majority of the time. Yet since I know it's a NISMO, it's fully capable of a good track run. So I'd probably take it out once in a while.

And hell, you don't know the income of the forum members? Some people here have just too many cars in my opinion... and as far as I'm concerned, they could be crashing them into brick walls for fun. (but that's only because I'm jealous <AHEMfrostAHEM>)
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Well, it's cool that it's $39,000. Not cool that it's a "track car" that will only do a couple laps before it over heats on its home turf. The idea of throwing down $780 for an oil cooler right out of the box is ridiculous. I'll pop in here from time to time and see what the status is on a factory oil cooler at some point.
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Well, it's cool that it's $39,000. Not cool that it's a "track car" that will only do a couple laps before it over heats on its home turf. The idea of throwing down $780 for an oil cooler right out of the box is ridiculous. I'll pop in here from time to time and see what the status is on a factory oil cooler at some point.
I hope you know almost all stock cars are not going to be able to run 5 laps at maximum speed. You will overheat your brakes and tires before the engine.
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I hope you know almost all stock cars are not going to be able to run 5 laps at maximum speed. You will overheat your brakes and tires before the engine.
Uhhhh, I'm not talking about wear items like brakes and tires, I'm talking about important things like an engine. My GTI has 63,000 miles on it, 20+ track days, maxed out stock turbo, and the temp gauge has never risen above 190 on the hottest, humidest of August days after a 40 minute session at Watkins Glen. Simply stated, I would expect a Nissan track car to hold up a better than my "grocery getter" GTI. Further more, I've seen plenty of bone stock cars at the track run balls to the wall for 2 days with absolutely no issues, including some wacko in a Prius. You sir, have no idea what you're talking about. But, this is the internet, so...

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Uhhhh, I'm not talking about wear items like brakes and tires, I'm talking about important things like an engine. My GTI has 63,000 miles on it, 20+ track days, maxed out stock turbo, and the temp gauge has never risen above 190 on the hottest, humidest of August days after a 40 minute session at Watkins Glen. Simply stated, I would expect a Nissan track car to hold up a better than my "grocery getter" GTI. Further more, I've seen plenty of bone stock cars at the track run balls to the wall for 2 days with absolutely no issues, including some wacko in a Prius. You sir, have no idea what you're talking about. But, this is the internet, so...

I don't? I have more track days in the Z alone than you do in the GTI, and I am not even including days from other cars. I think it had 47K when I traded it in. As speed goes up, wear and tear item goes up also. It's just the law of physics.

I don't think people are overheating their cars, they are overheating their oil (well some I think are just people panicing). Big difference there. Lastly, a stock car would not be able to handle 20 days without changing pads and brake fluids, it simply doesn't happen. Heck, even 20 minutes at max speed is pushing it, especially on a car with around 300HP.

I think the water temp gauge on most new cars are dummy gauges, you are going to read 190 unless you absolutely overheat it.
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I hope you know almost all stock cars are not going to be able to run 5 laps at maximum speed. You will overheat your brakes and tires before the engine.
This is not a statement by a person who has spent any time on the track. Unless of course all you do is wheel to wheel racing in some high end spec series, and have forgotten what most people refer to as "track days." A large majority of people at the track are newbies, there for their first time, and they haul *** all day long without issue. Of course I roll with an Audi club, so our cars are perhaps predisposed to being hustled around in haste. To say a stock car won't last 5 laps without issue is just ignorant. But I'm sure you are a track god none the less. See ya at LimeRock.

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This is not a statement by a person who has spent any time on the track. Unless of course all you do is wheel to wheel racing in some high end spec series, and have forgotten what most people refer to as "track days." A large majority of people at the track are newbies, there for their first time, and they haul *** all day long without issue. Of course I roll with an Audi club, so our cars are perhaps predisposed to being hustled around in haste. To say a stock car won't last 5 laps without issue is just ignorant. But I'm sure you are a track god none the less. See ya at LimeRock.
Most "newbies" you talk about don't run their cars hard enough to even break a sweat. Does it surprise you that they can run all day when they run the car at 70% of its capability? Try driving the car at 95% and up and see how long a stock car can last before your brakes and tires start to overheat. I am not saying the enginewill fail, I am simply saying that the car will become so much slower that you are better off running two cool down laps before you go hard again. Track god, nah. Track junkie, yes.
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I bought mine to be a track car and a daily driver. It does very well in both instances.

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Are you seriously going to start flaming on a 370Z forum when you're driving an overglorified convertible?

The NISMO is meant to be a high performance street car; yet it can be easily tracked... just an oil cooler, maybe a better diff (lol VLSDs suck for any kind of driving, better get that clutch type!).

Plus that majority are the people that really just don't "enjoy" cars. You can never feel the true potential of a car by street racing, which is horrible and irresponsible in the first place, regardless of your driving skill or how empty the road is.

Also remember that Ferrari's, Porsche's, those European sports cars are made for luxury speed; remember the driving rules in Europe are much different; they can go pretty damn fast all over the place too. When you take a stock Ferrari, more than likely it's not a capable track car at all; all that weight added on from the luxury, etc. Think the standard F430 compared to the F430 Scuderia. Huge difference.

That being said, the NISMO is not truly a pure track car, but it can handle the track a lot better than any stock 370Z could, regardless of trim or options. If I had bought a NISMO 350Z (in Red, at the Evanston Autobarn Nissan in Chicago, 30,500?), I'd likely drive that thing on the street a vast majority of the time. Yet since I know it's a NISMO, it's fully capable of a good track run. So I'd probably take it out once in a while.

And hell, you don't know the income of the forum members? Some people here have just too many cars in my opinion... and as far as I'm concerned, they could be crashing them into brick walls for fun. (but that's only because I'm jealous <AHEMfrostAHEM>)
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