Nissan 370Z Forum  

Why the Canadian economy is doing better than the US

I finally figured it out! Us Canadians are a bunch of suckers! I've been searching months for a Z, found a couple 40th anniversary editions worth pursuing. Case 1 Dealer

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z Pricing / Ordering Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-28-2010, 11:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
Cheech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Sunshine Coast / So Cal
Posts: 214
Drives: Frontier & Zed
Rep Power: 14
Cheech is on a distinguished road
Default Why the Canadian economy is doing better than the US

I finally figured it out! Us Canadians are a bunch of suckers!

I've been searching months for a Z, found a couple 40th anniversary editions worth pursuing.

Case 1
Dealer is advertising on Craigslist a 40th anniversary 370Z with 10,000Km (6000miles), at full price $48,888.00. I called the sales guy, he says it brand new,.... but it's got 10,000Km! He says "no, it's brand new, never been registered, dealership owner has been driving it". But it's got 10,000Km on it! It's like driving across the country and back! "no, no, no, it's new". Whatever this guys smokin', I want some!

Case 2
Private seller of a 40th, wants to sell the car at the same price he paid for. "Dude, once you drive it off the lot, you lose, .... at least 15%". His reply "But next year it'll be worth more, 'cause it's a limited edition and will be a collectible". He lowered his price a couple thousand, but still....wow!

I think we must be suckers up here as someone will surely buy these cars for those prices and keep our economy going. Are we all that naive?

Has anyone else come across the disillusioned?


Born yesterday,
Cheech
Cheech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 12:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
Track Member
 
zmyride's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 631
Drives: 10 Black Sports 7AT
Rep Power: 16
zmyride has a spectacular aura aboutzmyride has a spectacular aura about
Default

Last year I went shopping for a Z, I went to this dealer to check out a Z but it had 190 miles on it. I asked the salesman why there were so many miles already. He said to me, "Nissan engineers test drive every new Z. What the engineers do is drive the Z around Nissan parking lot and put in over 150 miles to make sure that every moving parts gel together before delivering it to the dealer."

Then I pointed my finger at another Z next to him and said, "Then why does that Z have only 9 miles on it?"

Then he said oh because Nissan engineers knew that car would pass quality inspection so they didn't need to drive around and test too much.

I walked away. -Nuff said.
zmyride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 01:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
Track Member
 
jaedub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 906
Drives: 2010 Black 370Z MT
Rep Power: 304
jaedub has a reputation beyond reputejaedub has a reputation beyond reputejaedub has a reputation beyond reputejaedub has a reputation beyond reputejaedub has a reputation beyond reputejaedub has a reputation beyond reputejaedub has a reputation beyond reputejaedub has a reputation beyond reputejaedub has a reputation beyond reputejaedub has a reputation beyond reputejaedub has a reputation beyond repute
Default

at least they make some killer maple syrup
jaedub is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 06:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
TreeSemdyZee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Kentuck-IANA
Age: 59
Posts: 4,880
Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke
Rep Power: 27408
TreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zmyride View Post
Last year I went shopping for a Z, I went to this dealer to check out a Z but it had 190 miles on it. I asked the salesman why there were so many miles already. He said to me, "Nissan engineers test drive every new Z. What the engineers do is drive the Z around Nissan parking lot and put in over 150 miles to make sure that every moving parts gel together before delivering it to the dealer."

Then I pointed my finger at another Z next to him and said, "Then why does that Z have only 9 miles on it?"

Then he said oh because Nissan engineers knew that car would pass quality inspection so they didn't need to drive around and test too much.

I walked away. -Nuff said.
Wow! Just wow.
Do you ever get the idea that some people lie so much, they don't even know when they're doing it?
TreeSemdyZee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 06:58 AM   #5 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
HKYStormFront's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Greer, SC
Posts: 14,954
Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd
Rep Power: 52
HKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond reputeHKYStormFront has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to HKYStormFront
Default

and here i was thinking that it was because of legalized marijuana....
__________________
Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs
09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now
HKYStormFront is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 09:02 AM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
FuszNissan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 14,275
Drives: Pure Sex
Rep Power: 541
FuszNissan has a reputation beyond reputeFuszNissan has a reputation beyond reputeFuszNissan has a reputation beyond reputeFuszNissan has a reputation beyond reputeFuszNissan has a reputation beyond reputeFuszNissan has a reputation beyond reputeFuszNissan has a reputation beyond reputeFuszNissan has a reputation beyond reputeFuszNissan has a reputation beyond reputeFuszNissan has a reputation beyond reputeFuszNissan has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to FuszNissan Send a message via Skype™ to FuszNissan
Default

Nissan does test some vehicles for quality control from time to time.
__________________
Mods: Too Many to list!
LouFuszNissan

ZDAYZ 2012
FuszNissan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 11:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
IDZRVIT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Halifax
Posts: 1,659
Drives: '13 CTS-V, '76 Vette
Rep Power: 26
IDZRVIT has a reputation beyond reputeIDZRVIT has a reputation beyond reputeIDZRVIT has a reputation beyond reputeIDZRVIT has a reputation beyond reputeIDZRVIT has a reputation beyond reputeIDZRVIT has a reputation beyond reputeIDZRVIT has a reputation beyond reputeIDZRVIT has a reputation beyond reputeIDZRVIT has a reputation beyond reputeIDZRVIT has a reputation beyond reputeIDZRVIT has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I live on the east coast of the GWN. There is only one dealer who brings in Z's and that's less than what you count on one hand with a few fingers missing! No competition so the dealer has the attitude that if you want the car you pay his price or else travel out of province and make a deal there. Kinda hard to do if you have to trade a vehicle. However, I lucked out on the roadster as there was a Canada wide clearance sale on them and I got $10000 off MSRP. Best deal I ever got on a new car. In the big picture, us Canucks get raped on just about everything we buy. Our culture is too tolerant and polite to raise hell. It's easier just to pay the price. Wow! I envy our friends to the south when it comes to purchasing power.
__________________
"America.... still builds rockets!"
Vette: 355 cid, 400 rwhp
'13 CTS-V Coupe: 6.2L LSA, 556HP
IDZRVIT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 11:13 AM   #8 (permalink)
6MT
A True Z Fanatic
 
6MT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: ITU Zone 2
Posts: 22,459
Drives: Reliant Robin
Rep Power: 1789
6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute
Default

For those who weren't around in the spring of 2009.... 370's were selling for over retail price. Because of the shortage and demand.

As far as the difference in price from the USA.... people obviously don't know much about the differences between the 2 countries. Not trying to sound "snotty", but really...(?). Come on folks, let's not try to compare apples with oranges.
__________________
Andrew

2009 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT sold
2013 Honda Civic Si coupe D/D
6MT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 11:17 AM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
LMBmikeZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 12,237
Drives: 40th
Rep Power: 10349
LMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee View Post
Wow! Just wow.
Do you ever get the idea that some people lie so much, they don't even know when they're doing it?
It is so true but worst part of it all is I normally find car dealerships have some of the best examples of these compulsive liars!



I got my Z 12 KMS on it <<<<<<<Canada eh! not miles lol
__________________
CUSTOM NISMO | BERK | H&R | STANCE | SPL everything | EVO-R | 34 Setrab | WHITELINE | Redline | Carkitcompany | Zspeed | UpRev | SEIBON
LMBmikeZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 11:45 AM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
fuct's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Sugar Land
Posts: 3,692
Drives: 97' Ranger :)
Rep Power: 23
fuct has much to be proud offuct has much to be proud offuct has much to be proud offuct has much to be proud offuct has much to be proud offuct has much to be proud offuct has much to be proud offuct has much to be proud offuct has much to be proud offuct has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by IDZRVIT View Post
I live on the east coast of the GWN. There is only one dealer who brings in Z's and that's less than what you count on one hand with a few fingers missing! No competition so the dealer has the attitude that if you want the car you pay his price or else travel out of province and make a deal there. Kinda hard to do if you have to trade a vehicle. However, I lucked out on the roadster as there was a Canada wide clearance sale on them and I got $10000 off MSRP. Best deal I ever got on a new car. In the big picture, us Canucks get raped on just about everything we buy. Our culture is too tolerant and polite to raise hell. It's easier just to pay the price. Wow! I envy our friends to the south when it comes to purchasing power.
grow some balls then and say no, ill pay this price!

jk you guys are alright with us, mostly.
fuct is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 11:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Cmike2780's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Long Island
Posts: 5,059
Drives: slowwww
Rep Power: 28
Cmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

What does thread have to do with the economy? Seems like the dealers are just sketchy and put a premium on the car because of availability. They did the same thing in the US when the GT-R came out... as well as the challenger and camaro to name a few.
__________________
[09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R]

Cmike2780 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 01:59 PM   #12 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
Cheech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Sunshine Coast / So Cal
Posts: 214
Drives: Frontier & Zed
Rep Power: 14
Cheech is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cmike2780 View Post
What does thread have to do with the economy? Seems like the dealers are just sketchy and put a premium on the car because of availability. They did the same thing in the US when the GT-R came out... as well as the challenger and camaro to name a few.
I suppose, but it's more like, we're too polite to argue

So rake us over the coals to get what you want, and we'll walk away with a smile.

American: HEY! ..Get off my car!
Canadan: Get off my car,.... eh?
Cheech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 02:05 PM   #13 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Jjaden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Ontario
Posts: 821
Drives: 370Z/MAT SILVER/6MT
Rep Power: 16
Jjaden has a spectacular aura aboutJjaden has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheech View Post
Case 1
Dealer is advertising on Craigslist a 40th anniversary 370Z with 10,000Km (6000miles), at full price $48,888.00. I called the sales guy, he says it brand new,.... but it's got 10,000Km! He says "no, it's brand new, never been registered, dealership owner has been driving it". But it's got 10,000Km on it! It's like driving across the country and back! "no, no, no, it's new". Whatever this guys smokin', I want some!
I got this same 'new car' bullcrap even tho mine had 4000km on it. The salesman claimed the owner of the dealership was driving it so he could form an opinion on 370z's.

In my case the dealer did also knock $5000 off the price and I got a fully loaded 2009 Sports / Touring for $40,900 in Oct 2009. I considered it a good deal.

From what I've seen any 'New' car from a dealership that has mileage on it the dealer should be willing to take 'AT LEAST' 1$ off per km..
Jjaden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 02:05 PM   #14 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
Cheech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Sunshine Coast / So Cal
Posts: 214
Drives: Frontier & Zed
Rep Power: 14
Cheech is on a distinguished road
Default

So what would you think would be a reasonable price for a 40th with 10,000Km on it?

He's at $48,500 Out the Door.
Cheech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2010, 02:12 PM   #15 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Jjaden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Ontario
Posts: 821
Drives: 370Z/MAT SILVER/6MT
Rep Power: 16
Jjaden has a spectacular aura aboutJjaden has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheech View Post
So what would you think would be a reasonable price for a 40th with 10,000Km on it?

He's at $48,500 Out the Door.
Well, mine was 47k out the door and yours has 6k more miles originally.

Honestly I wouldn't take it for more than 44k out the door with that kind of mileage but that's just a personal thing.

You also have to think the dealer probably didn't respect the break in period of the new engine and those km's were probably hard and fast.

You may want to use that as a bargaining point.

I really think if you show the the salesman you are willing to walk or mention another dealership that carries 370's you'll see a rapid price reduction.
Jjaden is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fuel Economy tdd1986 Nissan 370Z General Discussions 37 09-26-2010 11:46 AM
U.S. Economy 2009! GMZ The Lounge (Off Topic) 57 07-23-2009 09:32 PM
Fuel Economy...WTF? spearfish25 Nissan 370Z General Discussions 28 07-08-2009 06:05 PM
370Z fuel economy bossman Nissan 370Z General Discussions 35 02-19-2009 10:46 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2