Renderings of the Next-Gen Z...

m4a1mustang · 09-21-2011, 11:45 AM

If you flipped it upside down, sort of.

But yeah, these just look like artists renderings and we all know how those turned out when predicting the 370Z. Plus no one really knows if the Z line is going to continue (poor sales).

bullitt5897 · 09-21-2011, 11:57 AM

The next Gen Z will have to up its HP if it wants to compete and sell more in this market... Here is why. Both the Comaro and mustang make more power in the same price range... also, The Z finds itself at the time stuck between 2 markets the entry level Performance cars like the EVO, STI, Genesis and etc... and the mid level performance cars like the Mustang, camaro, corvette, charger, 335i, m3 and etc...

So the problem is they neither fit in the lower bracket or the upper bracket... there are several options to fix this dilemma. However, I would like to see the Z step up to the upper bracket but not to compete with the GTR... I think this would be doable... I think if they SC'd the Z or Turbo'd the motor it wouldnt be too much of burden on development... what I would really like to see is a highly efficient high compression low displacement V8!!!

I am thinking a 3.5L 9-10k rpm range... That would be SWEET!

Unique_Z · 09-21-2011, 01:49 PM

3.5? thats quite low for a V8.. make that 4.0 V8 and the next gtr having a 4.5 motor

how's that?

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports

The next Gen Z will have to up its HP if it wants to compete and sell more in this market... Here is why. Both the Comaro and mustang make more power in the same price range... also, The Z finds itself at the time stuck between 2 markets the entry level Performance cars like the EVO, STI, Genesis and etc... and the mid level performance cars like the Mustang, camaro, corvette, charger, 335i, m3 and etc...

So the problem is they neither fit in the lower bracket or the upper bracket... there are several options to fix this dilemma. However, I would like to see the Z step up to the upper bracket but not to compete with the GTR... I think this would be doable... I think if they SC'd the Z or Turbo'd the motor it wouldnt be too much of burden on development... what I would really like to see is a highly efficient high compression low displacement V8!!!

I am thinking a 3.5L 9-10k rpm range... That would be SWEET!

bullitt5897 · 09-21-2011, 02:05 PM

The new mc4-12 has a 3.8 low compression twin turbo V8 so a 3.5 high compression motor is not too far of a stretch

bullitt5897 · 09-21-2011, 02:06 PM

It's a Nissan v8 btw

Unique_Z · 09-21-2011, 02:30 PM

yeah its true but its a Mclaren not a Nissan.. simply said, just wait and see how it will turn out

and btw, have your build finished yet?

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports

The new mc4-12 has a 3.8 low compression twin turbo V8 so a 3.5 high compression motor is not too far of a stretch

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Originally Posted by Bullitt@UAMotorsports

It's a Nissan v8 btw

Waiz · 09-21-2011, 03:23 PM

Hmmm call me skeptical but Best Car is notorious for being wrong.

This was their 370Z rendering, completely off..

bullitt5897 · 09-21-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Iwan72

yeah its true but its a Mclaren not a Nissan.. simply said, just wait and see how it will turn out

and btw, have your build finished yet?

The car is doing great! Sam is working on it all week!

XwChriswX · 09-21-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Waizzz

Hmmm call me skeptical but Best Car is notorious for being wrong.

This was their 370Z rendering, completely off..

Yeah totally, I mean look how far off they were on the engine cover. It looks nothing like that!

Waiz · 09-21-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Yeah totally, I mean look how far off they were on the engine cover. It looks nothing like that!

G37 uses the same one!

SPOHN · 09-21-2011, 05:51 PM

I don't want to see a V8. We see what the GTR motor can do so why not meet in the middle.

Waiz · 09-21-2011, 06:03 PM

I would guess small turbos on a smaller displacement 2.5 V6 is the more likely direction.

Given CAFE standards and how cheap Nissan is, a one-off V8 in this car is not happening. What they do with the next generation G37 engine will probably be a preview of things to come.

SPOHN · 09-21-2011, 06:08 PM

A 250Z. No way. It has to have a 3 in it at least.

XwChriswX · 09-21-2011, 06:18 PM

Or they could just do the 370ZX and make that TT...

Isamu · 09-21-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Or they could just do the 370ZX and make that TT...

09-21-2011, 11:45 AM	#16 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	If you flipped it upside down, sort of. But yeah, these just look like artists renderings and we all know how those turned out when predicting the 370Z. Plus no one really knows if the Z line is going to continue (poor sales). __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

09-21-2011, 11:57 AM	#17 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	The next Gen Z will have to up its HP if it wants to compete and sell more in this market... Here is why. Both the Comaro and mustang make more power in the same price range... also, The Z finds itself at the time stuck between 2 markets the entry level Performance cars like the EVO, STI, Genesis and etc... and the mid level performance cars like the Mustang, camaro, corvette, charger, 335i, m3 and etc... So the problem is they neither fit in the lower bracket or the upper bracket... there are several options to fix this dilemma. However, I would like to see the Z step up to the upper bracket but not to compete with the GTR... I think this would be doable... I think if they SC'd the Z or Turbo'd the motor it wouldnt be too much of burden on development... what I would really like to see is a highly efficient high compression low displacement V8!!! I am thinking a 3.5L 9-10k rpm range... That would be SWEET! __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

09-21-2011, 02:05 PM	#19 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	The new mc4-12 has a 3.8 low compression twin turbo V8 so a 3.5 high compression motor is not too far of a stretch __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

09-21-2011, 02:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	It's a Nissan v8 btw __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

09-21-2011, 05:51 PM	#26 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	I don't want to see a V8. We see what the GTR motor can do so why not meet in the middle. __________________

09-21-2011, 03:23 PM	#22 (permalink)
Waiz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,262 Drives: Z33 & GE8 Rep Power: 459	Hmmm call me skeptical but Best Car is notorious for being wrong. This was their 370Z rendering, completely off..

09-21-2011, 06:03 PM	#27 (permalink)
Waiz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,262 Drives: Z33 & GE8 Rep Power: 459	I would guess small turbos on a smaller displacement 2.5 V6 is the more likely direction. Given CAFE standards and how cheap Nissan is, a one-off V8 in this car is not happening. What they do with the next generation G37 engine will probably be a preview of things to come.

09-21-2011, 06:08 PM	#28 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	A 250Z. No way. It has to have a 3 in it at least. __________________

09-21-2011, 06:18 PM	#29 (permalink)
XwChriswX WFLYIDNNE Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: In The Fastlane Posts: 50,648 Drives: 02 GDB WRX Rep Power: 451	Or they could just do the 370ZX and make that TT... __________________ Bonnie - Stage 2, Audio build coming this fall! R.I.P. Abby 3/29/10 - 3/30/14