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MotorTrend First Test: 2009 Nissan 370Z test drive 4.7 sec 0 to 60 11.25.08

Originally Posted by Endgame So, a car that weighs 300 pounds less with equal power will do the same 0-60??? G37 does 0-60 in 5 seconds.... I agree with you

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So, a car that weighs 300 pounds less with equal power will do the same 0-60??? G37 does 0-60 in 5 seconds....
I agree with you completely. If the G37 does 0-60 in 5 secs and weighs 300 lbs more than the 370z, then a 4.7 sec 0-60 for the 370z is very plausable. Nay sayers are simply talking out of their AS*, and their skepticism is based on nothing factual. On what basis are they doubting Motor Trend's test results.
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I agree with you completely. If the G37 does 0-60 in 5 secs and weighs 300 lbs more than the 370z, then a 4.7 sec 0-60 for the 370z is very plausable. Nay sayers are simply talking out of their AS*, and their skepticism is based on nothing factual. On what basis are they doubting Motor Trend's test results.
First of all, sbsmoov, Motortrend has a history of posting lower times than just about any other "reputable" source. Haha, I literally chuckled when I saw these responses. Guys, the car is awesome, specially for the price. Also, I've already said I'm buying the car as soon as it comes out. I'm not a naysayer, I'm just being realistic. Edmunds reported very different numbers for just about every benchmark test than did MT. So if you're going to take one review as the absolute truth, then why not the other one? Because its less convenient? You should take these reviews with a grain of salt, not just believe everything they tell you as fact. As far as it being plausible, I thought that was exactly what I said on my previous posts...

You should check out this intake in the engine section of the forum, its dyno proven to give you 25HP to the wheels!!!! I hear it makes a ton of noise too. That should get you into the 4.6s range.

Don't even get me started on that 13.3 quarter mile.


LOL professional drivers???? Of course..all these fat old guys who review the cars are all professional drivers...
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First of all, sbsmoov, Motortrend has a history of posting lower times than just about any other "reputable" source. Haha, I literally chuckled when I saw these responses. Guys, the car is awesome, specially for the price. Also, I've already said I'm buying the car as soon as it comes out. I'm not a naysayer, I'm just being realistic. Edmunds reported very different numbers for just about every benchmark test than did MT. So if you're going to take one review as the absolute truth, then why not the other one? Because its less convenient? You should take these reviews with a grain of salt, not just believe everything they tell you as fact. As far as it being plausible, I thought that was exactly what I said on my previous posts...

You should check out this intake in the engine section of the forum, its dyno proven to give you 25HP to the wheels!!!! I hear it makes a ton of noise too. That should get you into the 4.6s range.

Don't even get me started on that 13.3 quarter mile.


LOL professional drivers???? Of course..all these fat old guys who review the cars are all professional drivers...


You have faith in Edmunds? They have both the GTR and the ZR1 doing 0-60 in 3.8 secs. Ridiculous at best! That's why I don't respect their reviews.

As far as my comment about professional drivers...I was simply making a point and was not suggesting that reviews by MotorTrend, Edmunds, etc are all done by professional drivers. I simply stated the reason why professional drivers are sometimes used.
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Hmm, I dont know... 4.7 is possible, just not very good for the car. I wouldnt call it very right either. 5.0s would be more likely...
4.7 secs not very good for the car???? What does that mean? Should it be quicker? And then you say 5 secs more likely. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
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RCZ... Look at the G37!!!! 0-60 5.0 SECONDS!!!

The Z weighs 300 pounds less!!!!!!! It WILL be lower!!! Use the G37 as you benchmark.

Although, I see what you are doing. You are looking at the glass half full, that way when REAL times come back better than Edmunds is reporting, you are overjoyed!!!
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Something like that...Should we believe it can do .99g on the skidpad too?
May I point out that an F430 can only manage .95g, that a Pagani Zonda could only muster .96g? Hey at least the Enzo was able to beat it by .06g's...

Hey, maybe they had GT-R tires on it for the test.

Anyway, I'm not talking smack about the car, I'm just keeping you humble because next thing you know this forum is filled with fanboys spreading all sorts of crazy fabricated facts. I can't wait to see it, much less drive it, just like everyone else on here. I think its going to be a great car, but lets not get ahead of ourselves here because we may look a little silly later on when we can't walk the walk...
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Something like that...Should we believe it can do .99g on the skidpad too?
May I point out that an F430 can only manage .95g, that a Pagani Zonda could only muster .96g? Hey at least the Enzo was able to beat it by .06g's...

Hey, maybe they had GT-R tires on it for the test.

Anyway, I'm not talking smack about the car, I'm just keeping you humble because next thing you know this forum is filled with fanboys spreading all sorts of crazy fabricated facts. I can't wait to see it, much less drive it, just like everyone else on here. I think its going to be a great car, but lets not get ahead of ourselves here because we may look a little silly later on when we can't walk the walk...
The old speak softly and carry a big stick game plan. I'm game...
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RCZ, what performance numbers do you have for the Cayman S? And from which publication?
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Cayman S?? Which one? the new one with the 320hp motor or the old one with the 295hp motor? Because for the new one, which weighs under 3000lbs and has 320hp gets a 0-60 of 4.9 and a skidpad of .96g

I don't take any single publication, I look at at least 5 different publications and estimate the average. The new Cayman is going to be a very tight competitor to the Z, I think people who can afford both are going to start leaning towards the Porsche now.
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Cayman S?? Which one? the new one with the 320hp motor or the old one with the 295hp motor? Because for the new one, which weighs under 3000lbs and has 320hp gets a 0-60 of 4.9 and a skidpad of .96g

I don't take any single publication, I look at at least 5 different publications and estimate the average. The new Cayman is going to be a very tight competitor to the Z, I think people who can afford both are going to start leaning towards the Porsche now.
Didn't the old one do 4.9 secs to 60 too? The new one is under 3000 lbs? Incredible! How did they pull that off.
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Cayman S?? Which one? the new one with the 320hp motor or the old one with the 295hp motor? Because for the new one, which weighs under 3000lbs and has 320hp gets a 0-60 of 4.9 and a skidpad of .96g

I don't take any single publication, I look at at least 5 different publications and estimate the average. The new Cayman is going to be a very tight competitor to the Z, I think people who can afford both are going to start leaning towards the Porsche now.
That's odd... I also thought the old one did 0-60 in 4.9. I can see why you were leaning towards the Z doing 0-60 in 5.1 if the Cayman is 4.9 (weight difference). However, the Z4M coupe did 0-60 in 4.8 I think which is faster than the Cayman and it has similar stats to the 370Z.

If the new Cayman is doing 4.9 only, maybe the new Z WILL be a match for it!! This should be interesting....
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What's up everyone, this is my first post so don't beat me up too bad I was in the Market for a BMW 135i, but after seeing the 370z at the Edmonds event and reading the road test, I've been converted.

First off, I believe that the 4.7 to 60 Motortrend result is true and factual as well as the Edmonds test. I've done work for both these magazines and they are not going to post up false times. Weather or not they can get consitent 4.7 is questionable though.

Everyone here is talking about weight vs. HP, but knowone has mentioned, gear ratios,(except DD) drag coefecient, tire pressure, weight transfer, track temperature, etc. All of these things play a factor in 0-60 times.
When they do these test, they heat up the tires with many burn-outs, experiment with tire pressure, launch RPM's, and make sure that they are not going into a head wind. In the real world you won't be able to do that at a traffic light, but nevertheless, this cars magazine road test is no different then any other cars road test, so it's safe to say this is an accurate bench mark of the vehicles maximum performance in it's stock guise, when pushed to the limit.

Knowing that the 370z has lower drag, shorter wheelbase, stronger drive shaft, better traction, I have no doubt that with the right driver, car, and perfect road conditions that this time is acheivable. Either way, this is one quick great handling car and you can count me in at the dealership when they go on sale.

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What's up everyone, this is my first post so don't beat me up too bad I was in the Market for a BMW 135i, but after seeing the 370z at the Edmonds event and reading the road test, I've been converted.

First off, I believe that the 4.7 to 60 Motortrend result is true and factual as well as the Edmonds test. I've done work for both these magazines and they are not going to post up false times. Weather or not they can get consitent 4.7 is questionable though.

Everyone here is talking about weight vs. HP, but knowone has mentioned, gear ratios,(except DD) drag coefecient, tire pressure, weight transfer, track temperature, etc. All of these things play a factor in 0-60 times.
When they do these test, they heat up the tires with many burn-outs, experiment with tire pressure, launch RPM's, and make sure that they are not going into a head wind. In the real world you won't be able to do that at a traffic light, but nevertheless, this cars magazine road test is no different then any other cars road test, so it's safe to say this is an accurate bench mark of the vehicles maximum performance in it's stock guise, when pushed to the limit.

Knowing that the 370z has lower drag, shorter wheelbase, stronger drive shaft, better traction, I have no doubt that with the right driver, car, and perfect road conditions that this time is acheivable. Either way, this is one quick great handling car and you can count me in at the dealership when they go on sale.

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Nice first post! So, another 135i convert! I was looking at the 1 until more information and spy pics leaked of this mini Godzilla.
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Endgame,

Yeah, I was pretty much sold on the 135i, had my wheels, suspension, everything picked out, then I got an invite to see the new Z.
The best thing about the 370Z is that it is about $8k less and the same if not better performance. And that's without forced induction, can't wait to see what a turbo or twin turbo kit will do for this car.
I'm a big fan of wide tires, I really like the fact that the 19's with 275 rears fit no problem, which means you could probably stuff a 295 or 305 under there. Good luck getting anything wider then a 255 on the Bimmer without rubbing.
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What's up everyone, this is my first post so don't beat me up too bad I was in the Market for a BMW 135i, but after seeing the 370z at the Edmonds event and reading the road test, I've been converted.
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First off, I believe that the 4.7 to 60 Motortrend result is true and factual as well as the Edmonds test. I've done work for both these magazines and they are not going to post up false times. Weather or not they can get consitent 4.7 is questionable though.
No one said its not true, we are only discussing the validity of how that time represents the Z's normal actual performance. I don't doubt that with a nice launch and everything going very right, the Z can hit 60 in 4.7s. As you said, they probably cant get it consistently.

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Everyone here is talking about weight vs. HP, but knowone has mentioned, gear ratios,(except DD) drag coefecient, tire pressure, weight transfer, track temperature, etc. All of these things play a factor in 0-60 times.
When they do these test, they heat up the tires with many burn-outs, experiment with tire pressure, launch RPM's, and make sure that they are not going into a head wind.
That's true, specially about the gear ratios. Gearing has everything to do with 0-60 times. The thread just didn't merit getting into anything other than power and weight until now. Also I think that yes, there are other factors to take into account to judge a 0-60 time, however this standard is loosely measured to give you a sense of the acceleration of the car regardless of how it does it. A 4.7 paints a very different picture to me than does a 5.1 run. What Im trying to get at here is not whether the car can muster a 4.7s to 60 run, but rather if it will consistently be closer to that number or to 5.1s...

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Knowing that the 370z has lower drag, shorter wheelbase, stronger drive shaft, better traction, I have no doubt that with the right driver, car, and perfect road conditions that this time is acheivable. Either way, this is one quick great handling car and you can count me in at the dealership when they go on sale.
Drag doesn't make any real difference to 60. Nor would a shorter wheelbase. Carbon driveshaft would more efficiently transfer the engine power to the wheels, but they dont like very hard shocks, that wouldnt help. Better traction, possibly with the 275s. Driver goes unsaid and car shouldnt be a variable.
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