Multiple Engine for Next Z? from Nissan VP

280z/300zx

Honestly I can't see them cutting much weight. Unless they get rid of a lot of technology and overall shrink the car dimensions there really isn't much left to cut for weight. Not to mentions this new model will have to comply with new standards for safety which always adds weight.

Consider the FRS. Even with removal of the backseat it's still going to be at 2800lbs, just to keep numbers even. Add in a V6 and weight will easily approach the 3000lbs mark. Add in more luxury and technology that will have to be in the car to compete in todays market for a 30k+ car. Now your at least at 3100lbs. Add in updated safety standards, maybe 3200lbs now. That's best case scenario. Once you start talking about 19 inch or 20 inch wheels and large brakes/rotors, and all the other goodies the weight will go even higher. Add on turbos, intercoolers, and plumping and even more weight comes.

I think for a V6 sports car we won't see lower weight than where we are now. The only way the Z will weight less is with a smaller engine. Honestly I'm okay with 3200-3400lbs for a car as long as the suspension and power is there. I've driven/owned cars like the C7, Camaro 1LE, Various corvettes, Audi R8 V10, Porsche turbo, etc that all have weights equal to or higher than 3300lbs. They are were all a blast to drive. Yes, in a perfect world I'd love a sub 3000lbs car with 400hp but being realistic I'd rather they give us a decent engine while working on keeping the weight where it's at. Nothing short of 400hp is going to keep the Z alive since 400 is the new 300 in the car industry

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UNKNOWN_370

There isn't as high amount of tensile steel, aluminum & carbon fiber they can use. There's a very doable 200 lbs that can be shed.

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Nargrakhan

Doesn't the Stingray weigh around 3300 lbs? It's a V8 with 4 seats .

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Ignore 4 seat comment. Moment of being stupid. Editing so it doesn't start a chain of replies just pointing out the dumb comment.

280z/300zx

No, the stingray does not have 4 seats. What corvette ever had 4 seats? Yes it's a V8. Engine vs. Engine there is about a 150lbs difference. Keep in mind too that the Vette uses a lot of light weight materials but it's also 53K+ in price as well. Sure, the Z in theory could be made lighter but at what cost to us the buyers.

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90 ST

If they can keep it under 3300 with more power, or cut the weight to around 2500 with a turbo 4 making 275-300 i'd be interested.

Spooler

Well, that last of the true Z's are done it sounds like. I will not buy a Mercedes engine transplanted Z. Somehow I see all this as a bunch of rumors.

Chuck33079

I would be all over a 2900 lb Z with the motor from the AMG CLA. That 4 is beastly.

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AlWakRa

Not a new member, but I am a new 370z owner.

I bought my 370z recently although the speculation of a new model is all the place. My reasons was an acceptable weight, great engine, reasonable price and availability of aftermarket parts. Saying that, I wouldn't mind a turbo engine as it would mean higher capability for power plus a lighter chassis. But I have a thing for naturally aspirated engines and this was why I didn't wait.

Now about Z35, the positive of the rumours we have
- Weight less than current generation.
- Multiple power plants (means better market share).
- Cheaper.
The negatives:
- Mostly, new engines will have less power (I think Nissan will be satisfied with having the same performance level of 370z unlike us).
- Turbo? It has its good points but I would choose NA any day.
- I expect the bigger engines to be more expensive than current generation.
- Convertible only? I won't touch it at all.

On current information available, I can say Z35 is a no. Better keeping my 370z or going to Porsche. (Recently I tried the Carrera S, GT3 and Turbo S in the track, tbh I am trying to avoid splashing all my savings on the GT3, this machine is a monster I will be a happy poor man lool)


Anyway, we will wait the Z35 hoping it will be better.

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Zerocool

Dunno how I feel about a hybrid Z or even a Z with an MB engine. Not take anything away from the MB but to me it's not Z heritage. I despise convertibles so I wouldn't be interested in one.

I think I'll stick with my z34 unless the reveal is mind blowing.

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Chuck33079

Wouldn't be the first time. The L24 had a lot of slightly tweaked MB DNA since Prince had a licensing agreement to build MB knockoff motors and Nissan bought Prince.

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Zerocool

Yeah I read that as well.

I think I'm really worried about the way the car's going to look and perform. So far they're saying it's going to be lightweight and smaller etc. I just don't want it to look similar to a FRS/BRZ.

I personally feel as if the Z34's body/styling is gorgeous. The car looks almost perfect. It's the right size and I probably wouldn't be interested in a smaller car (considering this is my daily driver). Maybe a 3.0 turbocharged motor wouldn't be a bad idea for the smaller car but I'm also comparing the Z to perform against the v8 camaro's, mustang's.

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falconfixer

rant on

How many GD times do you need to hear that the MB engine is being built by Nissan technicians in a ******* plant down here in TN? Do any of you MB haters even come out of your caves to educate yourselves on alliances? You really want to piss and moan about brands? How about Nissan is nothing more than a Renault?

rant off/

I still like the rumor that the next-gen is getting a mass produced version of the current R35 powerplant.

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brucelidat

Only way the Z loses significant weight is to go smaller like a s2k or change to lighterweight materials which could push costs up. Either way, the possibility of a factory turbo'ed 3.0 v6 has me anticipating official release news before deciding on SC or not for the z34.

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Zerocool

Would have been cool if they developed a newer version of the twin turbo motor from the z32 to be put in the 370z.

Make it a 330 twin turbo machine... hell even a 300hp twin turbo machine. Doesn't matter, upgrade the turbos and a tune...

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