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370z rates nearly last on CR's owner satisfaction survey

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 ... the whole appeal of the Z is to be a low slung two seat sport coupe, that's a direct competition to boxster, Cayman, corvette, not

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Old 12-15-2014, 08:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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... the whole appeal of the Z is to be a low slung two seat sport coupe, that's a direct competition to boxster, Cayman, corvette, not mustang.


The FRS/BRZ IS UNDERPOWERED & OVERPRICED as well. So I laugh at there comparo. First n second year sales will always be high due to fanboy purchases. Every year after that is average Joe consumers with a very low percentage of fanboys. The twins should start at $23k n top out at $27k...

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Agree entirely with the first point. But the FRS/BRZ is simply a blast to drive and costs about as much (if not a little less) as a fully loaded Hyundai Elantra...

Driving the FRS brings nothing but smiles...as soon as you enter a corner and realize how much you can throw it around, the lack of speed factor is instantly forgotten. Just my personal opinion - I was incredibly skeptical of the vehicle before I plopped into the seat and took off...it just feels right. It does have a wonderful simplicity/purity to it.
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Old 12-04-2014, 10:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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"Considering that every other car in the segment has a back seat, the Nissan 370Z is at a tough disadvantage to the competition and this problem is compounded by the fact that a back seat isn’t something that you can just dial up. The company can lower the price or add more power but it is much more difficult to add a back seat – or a cargo area that is more readily accessible from the driver’s seat."

Absolutely pathetic
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TBH I'd love to get another Z but given how much problems I've had since the first day, I feel hesitated. Too much buzzing/knocking/shaking, Nissan pays too little attention to details.
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I'm not much of a fan of these statistics at all. They're borderline meaningless in the grand scheme of things, especially with this group of cars.

"Sporty" cars is quite a lofty, non-committal term in this case because it tries to do too much at once.

One car I would immediately discredit is the Corvette Stingray. What percentage of owners are still in the "honeymoon" phase? Silly to gauge owner satisfaction there. I know that every car I ever owned, within the first year or so, I would likely say "yes I would buy it again." Is that a fair sentiment when you have most of that car's owners and their satisfaction levels gauged against a likely equal pool of people with a 6 year old 370Z? Of course, at that point, they're likely going to be like "yeah, it's time for something new". Completely asinine. Of those cars on that poll, the 370Z is one of the oldest platforms.

The other piece of it is - why wouldn't you buy again? How many of the people who can afford a Corvette Stingray likely can afford a more practical car to handle life? I challenge you to take that demographic and compare it to Z owners - they likely won't buy another Z because life simply won't accommodate a 2 seater as things happen and they have to move on. Most Vette owners are in their 50s and 60s. There are plenty of Z owners in their late teens and early 20s on this board, and it's their only car.

Then, to combine those two cars, the demographics in each, and compare them to a FWD four-door Civic SI? Or an AWD Audi S4 sedan? A Focus hatchback? A ******* FIAT?

This is why anything Consumer Reports piles together is a load of ****. While there are valid points made by many people in this thread about shortcomings of the Z, the report itself... nothing to see here.

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z35- 400hp v8. It's a must in my opinion.
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I am curious as to what direction they are going to take with the next generation Z.

I am curious to as what powerplant they are going to chose, and what overall design philosophy. I wonder if they are going to try to add a third sports car to their line up, back to the old silvia/fairlady/skyline days, or if the market isn't there any more.

Can they tune the vk v8 to make decent OEM power? Supposedly when they designed the GT-R they thought about a V-8, but decided to go for a TT v-6 instead. I wonder if they are going to go for a heavy high HP car to try to capture the large american muscle car market from domestics? such as the VK or a tt VR or tt VQ? Kind of hard to see how you can beat the domestics in the american market in hp/dollar though.

or are they going to try to fight it out with the fr-s/miata in the light/fun category? like a turbo QR (meh) or a turbo MR (meh) or god forbid an NA QR

Or keep it in the mid-range affordable track car where it sits now. and continue with an updated V6 maybe with direct injection or something.

Or maybe they are working on an all new engine block. maybe a half decent i4?
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^^^ I wouldn't get your hopes up for a V8... they can get plenty of punch out of a V6 or boosted I4.

They just need to keep the weight down and the throttle response sharp.
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^^^ I wouldn't get your hopes up for a V8... they can get plenty of punch out of a V6 or boosted I4.

They just need to keep the weight down and the throttle response sharp.
like the famous line from... The Pawn Stars show............V8 its not going
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Well when Nissan doesn't promote their sports car what's to expect?
I love my car, and love how it stays flat on corners. Are the performance parts expensive? yes, but you gotta pay to play.

The honda Civic si surprises the **** out of me then again, the parts for it are probably a third of the cost for our Z's.
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The honda Civic si surprises the **** out of me then again, the parts for it are probably a third of the cost for our Z's.
True, but who wants to drive a Civic?
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Well when Nissan doesn't promote their sports car what's to expect?
I love my car, and love how it stays flat on corners. Are the performance parts expensive? yes, but you gotta pay to play.

The honda Civic si surprises the **** out of me then again, the parts for it are probably a third of the cost for our Z's.
Nissan is run like a true business and they promote what makes Nissan
the most investment on their return..

The new Honda civic - type r out of the box will be a great seller...

Bottom line. I'm here and were all here because we love and enjoy a 370Z..........

I'm at 72,000 miles on my 2010 Nismo and have no intentions of
changing sports cars...

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Bottom line. I'm here and were all here because we love and enjoy a 370Z..........

I'm at 72,000 miles on my 2010 Nismo and have no intentions of
changing sports cars...

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Famous last words.

Take it as a compliment, but we all outgrow everything (clothes, houses, horsepower, speed, style, etc.).

I bet if you win the lotto or receive a substantial inheritance, you'll be buying another brand of sports car - in addition to your Z of course!
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Nissan is run like a true business and they promote what makes Nissan
the most investment on their return..

The new Honda civic - type r out of the box will be a great seller...

Bottom line. I'm here and were all here because we love and enjoy a 370Z..........

I'm at 72,000 miles on my 2010 Nismo and have no intentions of
changing sports cars...

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Holding out for the rocket powered (or magnet driven) next generation Z
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honestly I personally won't buy a Z again. I mean I LIKE the car but there are so many cars out there that I can get that are that fast, are more comfortable and just "better"

TBH the biggest part why I won't buy a Z anymore is because I don't want RWD cars anymore. After several near accidents and spinouts on damp roads and stuff like that I have a "fear" of RWD. I can't punch the Z in a corner anymore. I don't want to drive on a racetrack anymore. Its just RWD has lost all appeal to me. back when I bought the Z I was all like "HELL YEAR RWD WOOOO" and now like 6 years later I am like meh. sure its fun and all if you want to go drift and stuff like that. But since you can't do stuff like that here in this god forsaken country what is the point.

track days are stupid expensive(like a grand + for what 4-5 20 minute sessions in a while day?) we have no drag strips or places where you can legally go drift. we have alot of rain. our roads are mediocre at best and we get freezing and snow for 3-4 months.

now if the Z would have a AWD option. then you know what. maybe I will consider it but for now. no more Z for me.
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