VERY CONFLICTED: 07'-08' 335i coupe vs New 370z

gnarf · 11-13-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 05G356MT

400-450 is the max for full bolt-ons + meth on stock turbo's. There is a company that released a turbo upgrade that's in the 500's but like you said, reliability would be a huge issue after a turbo upgrade especially since they're already non-reliable, IMO.

I'll disagree with you for sake of debate about a 3.0l TT making 300hp/300tq not being impressive. Also, BMW underrated that motor and lots of people have dyno'd 280ish stock. Given the 15% drivetrain loss, that motor should've been rated some where around 330ish at the crank.

The VQ isn't impressive either IMO (330hp for 3.7l, no DI, i'll say overrated hp/tq #'s), the S4 motor hasn't even been out long enough to see where it stands let alone see it's limits, the LS and 4G/B motors are bullet proof as well as the VR.

Which VQ are you talking about? 35DE/35HR/37HR? Because I can tell you a TT VQ35DE is probably one of the most unreliable set ups on a stock motor. IIRC, they haven't tested out the limit of the 35HR/37HR but most tuners stop around 500-550ish for safety purposes and IMO that's its limit before having to build.

Ever heard of the 2JZ-GTE?? 320hp and 315ftlbs of torque...that engine stock puts better numbers than the N54 and can run 800hp...this happened 15 years ago...other cars include 3000gt, 300zx and many were underrated...now find me a 6cyl engine that is NA that makes over 300hp without DI or cams...

05G356MT · 11-13-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gnarf

Ever heard of the 2JZ-GTE?? 320hp and 315ftlbs of torque...that engine stock puts better numbers than the N54 and can run 800hp...this happened 15 years ago...other cars include 3000gt, 300zx and many were underrated...

Thanks for the history lesson but what does the 2JZ have anything to do with what's being discussed

? All I was saying was that the N54 is underrated from factory and the published 300hp/300tq should be more in the range of 330hp/330tq (which is in line of the engines you listed).

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Originally Posted by gnarf

now find me a 6cyl engine that is NA that makes over 300hp without DI or cams...

In this day in age, most if not all car manufactures are using DI in there engines. So to answer your question, one of the few it not only engine(s) that makes over 300hp without DI would be the VQ. By no means is that an engineering feat especially since the VQ has the highest displacement (37HR) in its class and Nissan failed to use a technology that will make their engine better.

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