VERY CONFLICTED: 07'-08' 335i coupe vs New 370z

MightyBobo · 11-14-2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by molamann

So this thread's got me thinking, is the 370Z underpowered for its purpose or is the 335i just damn fast for a sedan/coupe touring car? I mean it seems like the 335i isn't lagging too much behind the 370Z in handling either, so what's the point of getting the 370Z other than wanting a "pure" sports car by sacrificing seats, noise, etc?

Well, some would argue the Z keeps getting fatter, and hence the increased power is less effective. Others would argue that the 335i is a twin-turbo 6-cylinder, and by that very virtue would more than likely be a quick car with lots of potential.

Either way, I wouldn't say the Z is underpowered too much at all. Its all in what the car was designed for in the first place - its obvious what the Z is for, but the 335i is a bit more vague. In reality, it was made for men who want a little more umph from the car they daily drive to work and to the golf course. But can it take corners the same as the 370Z? Hardly. But you post a very good question - what IS the point in buying the Z over the 335i? To many, image. A 2-seater sports car to many is viewed as a sign of youth, maybe even a bit rebellious nature in this time of practicality.

molamann · 11-14-2009, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Well, some would argue the Z keeps getting fatter, and hence the increased power is less effective. Others would argue that the 335i is a twin-turbo 6-cylinder, and by that very virtue would more than likely be a quick car with lots of potential.

Either way, I wouldn't say the Z is underpowered too much at all. Its all in what the car was designed for in the first place - its obvious what the Z is for, but the 335i is a bit more vague. In reality, it was made for men who want a little more umph from the car they daily drive to work and to the golf course. But can it take corners the same as the 370Z? Hardly. But you post a very good question - what IS the point in buying the Z over the 335i? To many, image. A 2-seater sports car to many is viewed as a sign of youth, maybe even a bit rebellious nature in this time of practicality.

You pretty much nailed it since that's the whole reason I opted the 370Z over the G37 now that I think about it.

370Zsteve · 11-14-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by molamann

So this thread's got me thinking, is the 370Z underpowered for its purpose or is the 335i just damn fast for a sedan/coupe touring car? I mean it seems like the 335i isn't lagging too much behind the 370Z in handling either, so what's the point of getting the 370Z other than wanting a "pure" sports car by sacrificing seats, noise, etc?

What's the point? Here's mine: I save a ton of money and I get Japanese quality/reliability. Underpowered? I think not!

m4a1mustang · 11-14-2009, 08:03 AM

Anything less than an LS2/LS7 is underpowered, IMO.

370Zsteve · 11-14-2009, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Anything less than an LS2/LS7 is underpowered, IMO.

Anything less than a top-fuel dragster!

zero · 11-14-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Well, some would argue the Z keeps getting fatter, and hence the increased power is less effective. Others would argue that the 335i is a twin-turbo 6-cylinder, and by that very virtue would more than likely be a quick car with lots of potential.

Either way, I wouldn't say the Z is underpowered too much at all. Its all in what the car was designed for in the first place - its obvious what the Z is for, but the 335i is a bit more vague. In reality, it was made for men who want a little more umph from the car they daily drive to work and to the golf course. But can it take corners the same as the 370Z? Hardly. But you post a very good question - what IS the point in buying the Z over the 335i? To many, image. A 2-seater sports car to many is viewed as a sign of youth, maybe even a bit rebellious nature in this time of practicality.

I got the Z because my golf bag fits perfectly in the trunk.

370Zsteve · 11-14-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by zero

I got the Z because my golf bag fits perfectly in the trunk.

+1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

ianthegreat · 11-15-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

No sir. What I will do is say that 332hp, for a NA V6, regardless of price, is DAMN good. You have your opinion, I have mine. You choose to compare the VQ to an engine that costs 4 times as much, and in doing a comparo, you compare the average engine output for its size with other cars IN ITS CLASS, by which the GT3 is not. Now back to the point at hand, also comparatively speaking, your comparing a Flat 6 against a V6, two completely different configurations, one built for efficiency and power equally, and one strictly for all out speed applications. Case in point the VQ, excellent power while having decent fuel economy. The GT3 is a race bred car, and thats it. So to say that 332bhp for a V6 is bad, i'd say you are terribly misguided sir.

n54 - 100hp/liter

vq - 89hp/liter

You can argue NA, but the VQ is quite a bit larger. Big advantage up top. While the n54 starts losing power, the VQ really starts grunting.

nicknick · 11-15-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by F430Spider

Funny coming from a miata driver.

Perceptions are just that. Drive an MX5 and you'll love it. I also had a modded 240z and thwat was brutal. I am also looking forward to eventually purchasing a 370z. Am I a girly man, gtfo.

nicknick · 11-15-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by vash_241987

I think its all of personal matter. Since both are about the same for power and performance here are what I'm listing as areas that can help choose what is best for your needs and wants. (strictly IMO)

Seating:
370z-if you are single and don't have alot of friends, this is your car. Why have the extra weight of two usless seats in the back? It'll also make you feel like your a man.....

.....not really, but it does give you the sports car feel.
335i-if you have friends, and are always out and about handing at clubs or bars, the two extras seats are helpful. (more pockets of gas money

) It's also helpful for any 'emergency' situations when you and group of friends or family are going somewhere and space is scarce in other friends cars.

Brand name:
Sometime in your past life you've been a brand whore....but sometimes you got to realize that your fav. company is just not giving the goods *cough* toyota *cough*. So if you are looking for the car you want you'll have to do a comparsion with all the different brands, and see if they offer what you want.

Pricing:
No brainer, if its new vs. new your probably going to go for the one that gives you more bang for the buck. I guess the same can go you you can find the more expensive one used for about the same price.

Repaires:
Can you afford the upkeep of the car? More stuff you can DIY like oil change, but when it comes to the routine check ups, the euro cars can be as much as what your paying monthly.

Interior Quality:
Want luxury and lots of options or doable interior that just gives you the basic stuff.

I think you can get my drift....its all personal tastes. I left out alot of other stuff like realiability, fiancing, insurance, but im too lazy. As for me, I think the biggest difference would be the routine maintenance, I would opt for the cheaper one, and also exclusivity....lots of people have 335i around here vs. the two 370z i've seen here. Ok thats my rant....I'm going to eats some PB M&M and sip on some hot cocoa with a shot of espresso

Our Zeds in Australia are loaded and there interiors are luxury. So the compo with the 335 and Zed interior are moot. Both are Luxury.

BRUSSO · 11-15-2009, 11:39 PM

I owned a 335 coupe for almost 2 years and just got into a fully loaded 370. Both cars auto and fully loaded with navi. Out of the box the 370 is by far a better sports car. While the 335 may have been faster with the chip, dp's , and intake it still lacked the lsd , 19 inch wheels , tighter handling , less body roll , 4 piston calipers, ect. To be honest I really think this 370 is a lot like my old e46 m3 but lighter with an extra gear. This car supercharged or turbo'ed will be a blast !! I don't regret my decision one bit..... Plus the z is 10K cheaper in msrp.... NO BRAINER....

lovethe370z · 11-16-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ianthegreat

Oh you feel it... every line, crack, or peice of gum stuck on the road.

My '98 Mustang GT Convertible was far worse, and the soft top made it very wind-noisy too. The Z feels like I'm floating on a cloud in comparison.

red6spd · 08-02-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BimmerPhile

How did that work out?

There's so much blatant fanboyism here it is crazy.

I laugh at how everybody's defense is that BMWs are ugly. Are you serious?

What are you the new resident BMW troll? Take a hike.

lemon-fresh · 08-02-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BimmerPhile

How did that work out?

There's so much blatant fanboyism here it is crazy.

I laugh at how everybody's defense is that BMWs are ugly. Are you serious?

I actually find the usual defense is they are more expensive and can have high maintenance costs outside of warranty. I would love to own an m series but I can't afford to comfortably maintain one currently.

Also, wtf is up with all the trolls lately? Did people just find out about the 370 or something?

"That car looks realllllly cool, better go bash it just so they know my car is superior. (because I feel uncomfortable when I see hockey moms and mostly senior citizens driving my car)"

FairladyZ · 08-02-2012, 11:15 AM

Well my really good friend has a 335i 2012

I drove his car plenty of times.

The 335i is fast and a really nice car but I just don't get the same feeling hopping into one.

I quickly miss the raw feel of the 370z. The 335i is way to plush that it doesn't feel sporty.

The 370z just overall feels tighter and more responsive.

335i to me is a *chill* fast car. The 370z is straight up sports car first, everything else second.

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11-15-2009, 11:39 PM	#161 (permalink)
BRUSSO Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SO CAL Posts: 21 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 15	I owned a 335 coupe for almost 2 years and just got into a fully loaded 370. Both cars auto and fully loaded with navi. Out of the box the 370 is by far a better sports car. While the 335 may have been faster with the chip, dp's , and intake it still lacked the lsd , 19 inch wheels , tighter handling , less body roll , 4 piston calipers, ect. To be honest I really think this 370 is a lot like my old e46 m3 but lighter with an extra gear. This car supercharged or turbo'ed will be a blast !! I don't regret my decision one bit..... Plus the z is 10K cheaper in msrp.... NO BRAINER....

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FairladyZ Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 850 Drives: 2012 370Z TRNG SPRT Rep Power: 17	Well my really good friend has a 335i 2012 I drove his car plenty of times. The 335i is fast and a really nice car but I just don't get the same feeling hopping into one. I quickly miss the raw feel of the 370z. The 335i is way to plush that it doesn't feel sporty. The 370z just overall feels tighter and more responsive. 335i to me is a chill fast car. The 370z is straight up sports car first, everything else second.