VERY CONFLICTED: 07'-08' 335i coupe vs New 370z

3SeventyZ

Considering the 335i is turbocharged and costs around $10K more(About the cost of FIing a Z) I think I'd rather just buy the Z stock and turbo it myself and be happier with the result. Make both cars turbo and there's no competition.

I'm sorry for the typo professor. I'll work on my typing in the future.

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05G356MT

Fair enough. Although I would like to add that 70% of TT G/Z's would be equivalent to or less than a 335i with a $570 piggyback. Also reliability comes into play especially when you TT a N/A motor. We both live in the Mid-A which is notoriously known for the most boosted Z's and G's and I have not run into one single owner that did not have a issue with their set up. Granted it might have been a small issue, an issue nonetheless.

Oh I wasn't correcting you, I was just making sure you knew how big your 370z's engine is.

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NXTAZEE

My wife and I were actually comparing the 335i to the G37S earlier this year. I think the G37S is more of a direct comparison to a 335i. Both have back seats, perform very similar and have the luxury element. I liked the exterior of the 335i but the interior is way to conservative and plain. We liked everything with the G and figured it would cost less to maintain over many as well. So we had our hearts set on buying a G37S until we saw the Z. We drove them both and there was no going back to the G after that. If you don't need a back seat and want a sports car, the Z's your car imo.

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3SeventyZ

335i's with the vishnu piggyback and boltons are making 370HP if they're lucky.
Last time I checked the 370Z is making 400HP+ easy with a plug-n-play FI kit.
Reliability is an issue on any car that has increased the power significantly.
I'm pretty sure the 335i has had issues. Small issues, but issues nonetheless.
Plus the 335i coupe weighs almost 300lbs more if I remember correctly.

I guess it all comes down to personal interest and the owner's purpose for the car.
Plus, I have a biased opinion.

Well that's very kind of you to remind me.

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05G356MT

There are two TT G37's (fireboy AAM TT?,christians GTM TT) in my area one of them took it to the track on the 500hp(IIRC) settings and was able to produce a 12.6 @ 116ish? in the 1/4. Obviously the 370z should post better times due to its weight but the difference shouldn't be too drastic (.5 or more). True, 335i's have trouble making 400hp+ with bolt ons yet can dip into 11 sec in the 1/4, it's all in their powerband.

I agree with you on the reliability thing but lets just say I have seen from experience, numerous unhappy owners due to having problems with their FI'd G/Z.

Totally understandable you having a biased opinion but I just don't like it when people are slightly misinformed and i'm super bored at work today

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ianthegreat

Anyone who owns 'said' car will have somewhat a biased opinion, that's to be expected. No harm and it's good discussion. It's when people go on a rant who are clearly misinformed (like nicknick for example) then trolls come out of the woodwork.

To be fair, the JB3's are putting down more power than Procede's.

You're also comparing a $10,000+ FI package to a $500 tune - let's be honest, for 99.9% of people, one reason for selecting X car is price. So to say John Doe has the financial ability to drop $10,000+ on a FI package is a bit far fetched.

Another point is reliability. On the FI 370z, you won't be taking that to a dealer for warranty work. For the 335i it's as easy as removing the tune (45 minutes) and you're done. I guess the point I'm getting at is the ease of modding. For a 370z to compete with a modded 335i they have to drop over $10,000, permanently lose their warranty, and always have that fear of something going wrong.

Red370

I think the point thats been made, is that for the same price of the 335i, a 370 can make close to 500whp with the TT kit. While a $600 flash can net 400hp for the 335, its still considerably less power, while the overall cost remains on par. And another comment i read was correct, the Z is more in line with the 135i, while the 335 is more G37 territory. IMHO, while ugly as all hell, the 135i is a better platform for power and overall speed than the 335i which is a bit of a fatty compared to the Z. Lets kill this thread off shall we?

40k for a 300hp V6, 40k for a 475-500whp TT'd Z, i think the choice is clear.

05G356MT

I disagree, there is a 12.8 sec 370z with minimal bolt ons on stock tires. The 370z easily has potential to be a mid to low 12 sec with full bolt ons/tuned and the proper tire set up.

Let's let the OP decide that he's the one who's asking for people opinion which we are giving.

Also for some the choice isn't as clear as you make it seem. Again why are you comparing a modified car to a stock car? Only fair that you do the same for both. How many people can say they would actually TT their brand new 370z and lose warranty right off the bat?

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ianthegreat

I thought that 12.8 sec pass was with full bolt ons? Maybe I read it wrong, very nice.

Red370

how many people would do a reflash and lose theirs on the 335? 335's are equipped with a smart ECU, it logs any and all modifications in power and whether or not its been tampered with. My First Sergeant drives one, and explained to me that his warranty was voided by the dealer when he took it in for routine maintenence. Why you ask? A reflash. And I believe someone stated before that you can just reset the ECU and info is gone forever right? wrong. The info is there for good. As a former G owner, I would think you would realize that the 370, in terms of performance, is the better buy. Seems to me like you've been bitten by the ol' G vs. Z bug. I too used to run my mouth to Z owners, then I test drove one, and determined that the 370 was just plain superior.

red6spd

What are you the new resident BMW troll? Take a hike.

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lemon-fresh

I actually find the usual defense is they are more expensive and can have high maintenance costs outside of warranty. I would love to own an m series but I can't afford to comfortably maintain one currently.

Also, wtf is up with all the trolls lately? Did people just find out about the 370 or something?

"That car looks realllllly cool, better go bash it just so they know my car is superior. (because I feel uncomfortable when I see hockey moms and mostly senior citizens driving my car)"

MightyBobo

Your posts are hilarious.

BimmerDouchenozzle would have been a better name, however....BMW fanboy comes to 370 board and complains about 370Z fanboyism...hypocrite much? Not everyone likes BMW's looks.

Keep drinking your Kool-Aid, however.

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Trips

Reviving a simply old thread to act like D-Bag? Earned you a Good-Bye Pass

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nicknick

A zed costs less than the 335 so depending on perspective you could put "more" money into it blow the doors of the 335 for less money.