VERY CONFLICTED: 07'-08' 335i coupe vs New 370z

3SeventyZ

335i's with the vishnu piggyback and boltons are making 370HP if they're lucky.
Last time I checked the 370Z is making 400HP+ easy with a plug-n-play FI kit.
Reliability is an issue on any car that has increased the power significantly.
I'm pretty sure the 335i has had issues. Small issues, but issues nonetheless.
Plus the 335i coupe weighs almost 300lbs more if I remember correctly.

I guess it all comes down to personal interest and the owner's purpose for the car.
Plus, I have a biased opinion.

Well that's very kind of you to remind me.

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05G356MT

There are two TT G37's (fireboy AAM TT?,christians GTM TT) in my area one of them took it to the track on the 500hp(IIRC) settings and was able to produce a 12.6 @ 116ish? in the 1/4. Obviously the 370z should post better times due to its weight but the difference shouldn't be too drastic (.5 or more). True, 335i's have trouble making 400hp+ with bolt ons yet can dip into 11 sec in the 1/4, it's all in their powerband.

I agree with you on the reliability thing but lets just say I have seen from experience, numerous unhappy owners due to having problems with their FI'd G/Z.

Totally understandable you having a biased opinion but I just don't like it when people are slightly misinformed and i'm super bored at work today

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ianthegreat

Anyone who owns 'said' car will have somewhat a biased opinion, that's to be expected. No harm and it's good discussion. It's when people go on a rant who are clearly misinformed (like nicknick for example) then trolls come out of the woodwork.

To be fair, the JB3's are putting down more power than Procede's.

You're also comparing a $10,000+ FI package to a $500 tune - let's be honest, for 99.9% of people, one reason for selecting X car is price. So to say John Doe has the financial ability to drop $10,000+ on a FI package is a bit far fetched.

Another point is reliability. On the FI 370z, you won't be taking that to a dealer for warranty work. For the 335i it's as easy as removing the tune (45 minutes) and you're done. I guess the point I'm getting at is the ease of modding. For a 370z to compete with a modded 335i they have to drop over $10,000, permanently lose their warranty, and always have that fear of something going wrong.

Red370

I think the point thats been made, is that for the same price of the 335i, a 370 can make close to 500whp with the TT kit. While a $600 flash can net 400hp for the 335, its still considerably less power, while the overall cost remains on par. And another comment i read was correct, the Z is more in line with the 135i, while the 335 is more G37 territory. IMHO, while ugly as all hell, the 135i is a better platform for power and overall speed than the 335i which is a bit of a fatty compared to the Z. Lets kill this thread off shall we?

40k for a 300hp V6, 40k for a 475-500whp TT'd Z, i think the choice is clear.

05G356MT

I disagree, there is a 12.8 sec 370z with minimal bolt ons on stock tires. The 370z easily has potential to be a mid to low 12 sec with full bolt ons/tuned and the proper tire set up.

Let's let the OP decide that he's the one who's asking for people opinion which we are giving.

Also for some the choice isn't as clear as you make it seem. Again why are you comparing a modified car to a stock car? Only fair that you do the same for both. How many people can say they would actually TT their brand new 370z and lose warranty right off the bat?

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ianthegreat

I thought that 12.8 sec pass was with full bolt ons? Maybe I read it wrong, very nice.

05G356MT

Nope, you're correct I misread the post, my mistake. I must have confused it with another post from one of the other forums i post in lol

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GingaBreadMan

I'm surprised ppl are concerned with other modded vehicles. It is very rare you will come across another modded vehicle, especially one getting 500whp. Besides most individuals with "fast" sports cars can't drive them. I have come across current generation M5's and Z06's that couldn't keep up with the Z. So those concerns are unwarranted. And for the record, a stock 335i is no match for the Z. Trust me.

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Red370

how many people would do a reflash and lose theirs on the 335? 335's are equipped with a smart ECU, it logs any and all modifications in power and whether or not its been tampered with. My First Sergeant drives one, and explained to me that his warranty was voided by the dealer when he took it in for routine maintenence. Why you ask? A reflash. And I believe someone stated before that you can just reset the ECU and info is gone forever right? wrong. The info is there for good. As a former G owner, I would think you would realize that the 370, in terms of performance, is the better buy. Seems to me like you've been bitten by the ol' G vs. Z bug. I too used to run my mouth to Z owners, then I test drove one, and determined that the 370 was just plain superior.

05G356MT

E90post.com, do you have a calculator ready?

Ever heard of BT (Bavarian Technic) Tool it clears out any code that has been ran by the OBD2 therefore the dealership can not see if the ECU has been tampered with as long as you clear it out before going in and remove the piggyback (JB3, Procede).

Tell your Sergeant to look at this. Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The dealership by law can not void warranty unless they can prove that a specific mod caused the problem (in your Sergeants case there was no problem). I had my warranty "voided" by Infiniti until I showed them this and told them I would take legal measures. Two months later and I have a brand new hand built longblock under warranty.

I am currently a G owner and just because Nissan/Infiniti shares the same engine doesn't mean there aren't any other cars that are better or comparable. I am a car enthusiast I see cars without the brands and in some cases with out the price (if someone decides to compare the two).

Hardly the case with the G vs. Z bug, matter of fact there are a good amount of Z's that are in the National G Club simply because they like hanging out with the older crowd now that 350's can be had by high schoolers (sadly to say the G too). By no means am I discrediting the Z but there are some comments in this thread that are clearly misinformed.

Also I do agree with you, you definitely get a whole lot of car for such a cheap price with the 370z. Between a new 370z and a new 335i its clear the 370z is the "better buy" but he's talking used. IMO, in this case the better buy would be determined only by the condition of the used 335i.

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ianthegreat

I can't comment on flashes, but I have yet to hear of a voided warranty on e90post because of this. On a side note, piggybacks are producing LOTS more whp than flashes are (no reason to go a flash route currently). With a BavTech tool you can erase all codes, including tamper codes.

akburst510

I have decided.

I am going for the new 370z base + sports package.

basically new >>>> used

Had both the cars been new, I still would be conflicted because the 335i is $50k.

Had I needed the additional seats, luxury and comfort, I would have picked the 335i.

Both choices were very tempting and it was basically a good place to be.

Thanks for all the non-related discussions.


Probably going to be a regular as soon as I pick her up.

red6spd

What are you the new resident BMW troll? Take a hike.

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lemon-fresh

I actually find the usual defense is they are more expensive and can have high maintenance costs outside of warranty. I would love to own an m series but I can't afford to comfortably maintain one currently.

Also, wtf is up with all the trolls lately? Did people just find out about the 370 or something?

"That car looks realllllly cool, better go bash it just so they know my car is superior. (because I feel uncomfortable when I see hockey moms and mostly senior citizens driving my car)"

MightyBobo

Your posts are hilarious.

BimmerDouchenozzle would have been a better name, however....BMW fanboy comes to 370 board and complains about 370Z fanboyism...hypocrite much? Not everyone likes BMW's looks.

Keep drinking your Kool-Aid, however.

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