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MJB 11-04-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scorp38 (Post 3022030)
The coyote 5.0s should beat the 370z in a straight line I think they run 5 sec 0-60

A 13' 5.0 weighs 3622lbs, 0-60mph in 4.3sec and 1/4 in 12.7sec @ 111mph. They come with an actual LSD, and handle alot better than what you guys think.

Specs came from MT, and testing was done with 6mt. I'm sure their auto is a little faster.

scorp38 11-04-2014 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 3022035)
A 13' 5.0 weighs 3622lbs, 0-60mph in 4.3sec and 1/4 in 12.7sec @ 111mph. They come with an actual LSD, and handle alot better than what you guys think.

Specs came from MT, and testing was done with 6mt. I'm sure their auto is a little faster.

Yeah their quick and with the 2015 gaining IRS they should pretty much crap on us :eek:

danegrey 11-04-2014 06:13 PM

All I have to say is the Z likes to run, and its plenty fast....
Went to an event called wannagofast, and I ran against a Porsche 911, base model, 350 HP, a couple of times, the difference was he had me by about 2 miles an hour. I also was against a Jeep SRT V8 and it ended up be the same difference.

The event was simply how fast you could go in a half-mile. the car will hold its own.

scorp38 11-04-2014 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 3022070)
All I have to say is the Z likes to run, and its plenty fast....
Went to an event called wannagofast, and I ran against a Porsche 911, base model, 350 HP, a couple of times, the difference was he had me by about 2 miles an hour. I also was against a Jeep SRT V8 and it ended up be the same difference.

The event was simply how fast you could go in a half-mile. the car will hold its own.

I love my z and am extremely happy with it I think it has a good amount of power wish it had a little more twerk but w/e it not bad.

MJB 11-04-2014 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scorp38 (Post 3022071)
I love my z and am extremely happy with it I think it has a good amount of power wish it had a little more twerk but w/e it not bad.

:iagree:, I think the Z has enough HP, but wish it came with a little more TQ and about 300lbs lighter.

brucelidat 11-04-2014 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 3022070)
All I have to say is the Z likes to run, and its plenty fast....
Went to an event called wannagofast, and I ran against a Porsche 911, base model, 350 HP, a couple of times, the difference was he had me by about 2 miles an hour. I also was against a Jeep SRT V8 and it ended up be the same difference.

The event was simply how fast you could go in a half-mile. the car will hold its own.

Awesome, I wish there was somewhere around here with a 1/2 mile straight to just mash the gas for fun on

scorp38 11-04-2014 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 3022075)
:iagree:, I think the Z has enough HP, but wish it came with a little more TQ and about 300lbs lighter.

Yeah if these were around 2900-3000 lbs it would be awesome.

scorp38 11-04-2014 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 3022075)
:iagree:, I think the Z has enough HP, but wish it came with a little more TQ and about 300lbs lighter.

Also with full bolt ons you can easily get 370-380 HP / 290-300 TQ at crank which ain't bad.

MJB 11-04-2014 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scorp38 (Post 3022084)
Also with full bolt ons you can easily get 370-380 HP / 290-300 TQ at crank which ain't bad.

Oh trust me, I had my fun with the Z. Full bolt ons/tuned, almost 350lbs stripped off. It was fast!

scorp38 11-04-2014 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 3022109)
Oh trust me, I had my fun with the Z. Full bolt ons/tuned, almost 350lbs stripped off. It was fast!

Dayum, you have it no more I take it.

MJB 11-04-2014 07:02 PM

Nope, sold it to a prior Porsche owner in Seattle.

scorp38 11-04-2014 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 3022112)
Nope, sold it to a prior Porsche owner in Seattle.

:eek: I live near there.

Tadpole 11-04-2014 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3022028)
From everything I have read, the 5.0 should be faster than our Zs in the 1/4 mile. What were their trap speeds compared to yours?

By paper the 5.0 is faster. It's launching then that kills them at the strip. For all the average Joes it's a drivers race. The automatic Z launches hard and quick while the stang hops and jumps out the hole. The challengers are overweight and can easily be beat. Camaros are the same too. Once they put a few mods on them it's over tho but stock for stock the 6 banger Z will win more than you think.

MJB 11-04-2014 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3022151)
By paper the 5.0 is faster. It's launching then that kills them at the strip. For all the average Joes it's a drivers race. The automatic Z launches hard and quick while the stang hops and jumps out the hole. The challengers are overweight and can easily be beat. Camaros are the same too. Once they put a few mods on them it's over tho but stock for stock the 6 banger Z will win more than you think.

But you are talking about driver skill, not the capabilities of the car.

Tadpole 11-04-2014 08:10 PM

I'm talking about who beats who at the drag strip and yes I stated the 5.0 is the faster car or is it? Only the boss and up are running consistent 12's where I go and there are always mustangs there. A lot of them.

MJB 11-04-2014 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3022165)
I'm talking about who beats who at the drag strip and yes I stated the 5.0 is the faster car or is it? Only the boss and up are running consistent 12's where I go and there are always mustangs there. A lot of them.

Ok... maybe they aren't as good of a driver as you are. Hate playing devils advocate, but its ok to acknowledge that some cars are faster than a Z and maybe we should ease up on the pride a little. I could care less about drag racing and certainly don't give 2 ***** about a Mustang, but its been proven time and time again from reviews that the newer 5.0's are consistent high 12 cars. But you are right, the average joe probably can't achieve that time to save his life, however the car is definitely capable of it. I thought this was a Brz vs Z thread anyways?

Tadpole 11-04-2014 08:27 PM

Go buy your viper or c7 and move on. If you don't know anything about the drag strip and don't care why are you saying something? I beat a lot of American muscle cars there quite often and I will beat the crap out of any BRZ or FRS out there too. Am I back on topic for you now?

MJB 11-04-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3022198)
I beat a lot of American muscle cars there quite often and I will beat the crap out of any BRZ or FRS out there too.

I'm sure you have. Because everything someone claims on the internet has to be true. How come in every thread when another vehicle is mentioned, you have to jump in and talk about how much faster your Z is and how you've beaten so many of them at the track? I'm surprised you haven't started another 6mt vs 7at debate. And bro, why you mad?

scorp38 11-04-2014 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 3022204)
I'm sure you have. Because everything someone claims on the internet has to be true. How come in every thread when another vehicle is mentioned, you have to jump in and talk about how much faster your Z is and how you've beaten so many of them at the track? I'm surprised you haven't started another 6mt vs 7at debate. And bro, why you mad?

Dude I beat hella american Cars at the track with cold air intakes and dual tip exhausts, and they have dog box transmissions and ladder bar setups and lsx blocks with l92 heads and twin 66mm turbos. Ask my mom she saw it all I had a video but it got deleted.

Duc_Z09 11-04-2014 09:31 PM

IMO if you're comparing your Z to a 2011+ Mustang you bought the wrong car. You're going to lose the HP battle every time unless you're FI and he isn't.

Sure, a full bolt-on Z *might* hold its own in the 1/4 against a stock 5.0 with a sh*tty driver. So what? What happens when the 5.0 gets 300 series tires, control arms and a tune? You're comparing a V8 muscle car and a V6 sports car, two totally different types of vehicle.:gtfo2:

If all you want is speed get a Mustang. Period. End of discussion. Want it to handle? Buy some coil-overs and brace it up; it'll wee-wee on your Z around a track. Need even more power? Add a Vortech and flip off the GTR drivers as you pass them.

Know why I don't have a Mustang anymore? Because they're all over the damn place and there's a lot more to owning a car than how fast it goes. I'm sure there are EVOs and STIs that can hand a Z its @ss as well, but at the end of the day they're still just economy cars with AWD and turbo.:rolleyes:

If you can't appreciate your Z for what it is, sell it to someone who can.

scorp38 11-04-2014 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3022247)
IMO if you're comparing your Z to a 2011+ Mustang you bought the wrong car. You're going to lose the HP battle every time unless you're FI and he isn't.

Sure, a full bolt-on Z *might* hold its own in the 1/4 against a stock 5.0 with a sh*tty driver. So what? What happens when the 5.0 gets 300 series tires, control arms and a tune? You're comparing a V8 muscle car and a V6 sports car, two totally different types of vehicle.:gtfo2:

If all you want is speed get a Mustang. Period. End of discussion. Want it to handle? Buy some coil-overs and brace it up; it'll wee-wee on your Z around a track. Need even more power? Add a Vortech and flip off the GTR drivers as you pass them.

Know why I don't have a Mustang anymore? Because they're all over the damn place and there's a lot more to owning a car than how fast it goes. I'm sure there are EVOs and STIs that can hand a Z its @ss as well, but at the end of the day they're still just economy cars with AWD and turbo.:rolleyes:

If you can't appreciate your Z for what it is, sell it to someone who can.

Or you could just boost the snot out of the little bugger for the price difference considering GTs are now in the 40ks and Shir on it. But yeah I agree you buy a z because its a z not because its a small **** replacement.

brucelidat 11-04-2014 09:38 PM

I don't know if Vortech mustangs will be passing GT-Rs on the track. But yes, it is definitely faster than the Z stock and modded.

MJB 11-04-2014 09:44 PM

I haven't been in the BRZ/FRS forums, but other car forums I frequent regularly usually speak highly of the 370z. I remember I posted a picture of my Nismo in the Viper forum and everybody absolutely loved it.

scorp38 11-04-2014 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 3022257)
I haven't been in the BRZ/FRS forums, but other car forums I frequent regularly usually speak highly of the 370z. I remember I posted a picture of my Nismo in the Viper forum and everybody absolutely loved it.

I beat a viper at the track. Hey 6mt vs 7at what's better? I think 6mt is better because racecar.

Firebase99 11-05-2014 06:01 AM

The '15 5.0's are HEAVY. I think C&D best time was 13 flat in the 1/4. The '12-14 are actually a bit faster. Thats a drivers race with a well driven Z.

Tadpole 11-05-2014 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 3022204)
I'm sure you have. Because everything someone claims on the internet has to be true. How come in every thread when another vehicle is mentioned, you have to jump in and talk about how much faster your Z is and how you've beaten so many of them at the track? I'm surprised you haven't started another 6mt vs 7at debate. And bro, why you mad?

I know I have beaten a lot of cars at the drag strip because I go race there. The Internet is full of information out there and as I have stated two times above, all muscle cars are faster on paper. What I did say is the average joe, that's you and me there boys and girls, that race out there. I don't have a racing license or a sponsorship to say I'm a pro but I'm not a shitty driver either. Horsepower means absolutely nothing when you can't use it that's why they get beat. I ain't mad bro but dont insinuate that the Internet is always right. You are getting information on bias reviews.

Tadpole 11-05-2014 06:05 AM

Oh yea, and yes the autos are better. Or have you forgotten since you troll threads and don't even own a Z any longer. Way to go bro

Firebase99 11-05-2014 06:37 AM

So some kid posted on the GT86 forum "Would an FRS kick an Evos *** around the track if it had same WHP, suspension, etc...". Not exactly an 86 at that point. ******* dimwitted morons. I wrote 'Would an 86 kick an F-22 Raptors *** if it had wings and 70 thousand pounds of thrust?"

Digital neOn 11-05-2014 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3022414)
So some kid posted on the GT86 forum "Would an FRS kick an Evos *** around the track if it had same WHP, suspension, etc...". Not exactly an 86 at that point. ******* dimwitted morons. I wrote 'Would an 86 kick an F-22 Raptors *** if it had wings and 70 thousand pounds of thrust?"

So he pretty much wanted to know if an evo with an FRS badge would beat an evo?


From my experience on that forum i'm guessing that some people legitimately took him serious and actually tried to make a case for the GT86 beating an evo?

Firebase99 11-05-2014 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Digital neOn (Post 3022416)
So he pretty much wanted to know if an evo with an FRS badge would beat an evo?


From my experience on that forum i'm guessing that some people legitimately took him serious and actually tried to make a case for the GT86 beating an evo?

Oh did they ever!! Quoting COG, compression, weight, etc. There were a FEW who face palmed though.

Digital neOn 11-05-2014 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3022417)
Oh did they ever!! Quoting COG, compression, weight, etc. There were a FEW who face palmed though.



With an entire section dedicated to GT86 vs (insert car) i am not surprised.

Just curious, i wonder if there has been a GT86 vs skyline GTR or Mclaren?

Firebase99 11-05-2014 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Digital neOn (Post 3022418)
With an entire section dedicated to GT86 vs (insert car) i am not surprised.

Just curious, i wonder if there has been a GT86 vs skyline GTR or Mclaren?

Oh, what was one of the really overzealous one besides the the C7? I think someone did an Aventador comparison?

mishuko 11-05-2014 09:09 AM

in all honesty i view the FRS as a super crappy version of a ferrari... i mean the tail lights reminisce me of them atleast...

i like the FRS / BRZ for being able to put 'affordable' sports cars back onto the market and giving a bit more selection. we're not like in the 90's with the countless japanese sports cars which is depressing for me because i could barely walk when they were around.

so when will all these hellaflush i don't care attitudes change to a 'true car enthusiast' attitude?

( Click to show/hide )
Probably when they grow a pair

MJB 11-05-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3022411)
Oh yea, and yes the autos are better. Or have you forgotten since you troll threads and don't even own a Z any longer. Way to go bro

Lol, you still running your suck? I didn't know I wasn't allowed in the forum anymore just because I sold my Z... especially since I paid to be a premium member for the entire 3+ years I've been on here, and the fact I always try to give advice when people are having mechanical issues. But I know you've contributed as well, by reiterating over and over in every post how great of a race car driver you are and how you've beaten every car at the track. And of course lets not forget, justifying why you bought an auto Z whenever someone mentions manual. I just moved last year from the Killeen area, but I tell you what... The next time I have a mission down at Ft. Hood, I'll stop by and give you a hug. You seem like you need someone to talk to. Feel better little buddy?

TerribleONE 11-05-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 3022678)
Lol, you still running your suck? I didn't know I wasn't allowed in the forum anymore just because I sold my Z... especially since I paid to be a premium member for the entire 3+ years I've been on here, and the fact I always try to give advice when people are having mechanical issues. But I know you've contributed as well, by reiterating over and over in every post how great of a race car driver you are and how you've beaten every car at the track. And of course lets not forget, justifying why you bought an auto Z whenever someone mentions manual. I just moved last year from the Killeen area, but I tell you what... The next time I have a mission down at Ft. Hood, I'll stop by and give you a hug. You seem like you need someone to talk to. Feel better little buddy?

Well said!

edub370 11-05-2014 11:13 AM

O for f*ck sakes... hey lets turn another thread into a 6MT vs. a 7AT debate... auto's are quicker to 60 and possibly around a track, 6MT's are more engaging. there we go, everyone wins

0101 11-05-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by scorp38 (Post 3021356)
I wouldn't buy a cayaman or an 991 and Porsche motors aren't unreliable. Porsche has one of the lowest warranty claims per 100 vehicals out of any auto maker aside from Lexus from 2010-2014. So the only 911 that I can't think of that had an unreliable motor was the 964. And I didn't buy one because well I'm a z nut.

I've never met a 911 owner who's still on the original motor.
I've also never met a 911 owner with over 100,000 miles.

The cars are junk. Research the issues they have.
Porsche simply doesn't care about reliabality.

Why do they have low claims? Because owners don't drive them!!!!

0101 11-05-2014 11:30 AM

To anyone who thinks Porsche doesn't make crappy cars:

It took this guy making a viral video with millions of vides and international news coverage before Porsche would step up and fix his POS car.

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MJB 11-05-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 0101 (Post 3022705)
I've never met a 911 owner who's still on the original motor.
I've also never met a 911 owner with over 100,000 miles.

The cars are junk. Research the issues they have.
Porsche simply doesn't care about reliabality.

Why do they have low claims? Because owners don't drive them!!!!

I don't know much about Porsche, but the guy that bought my Z owns a 911. He loves it and tracks it often. He did say that his burns oil though, and Porsche owners go by "if it doesn't burn oil, something is wrong with it", :icon14:

scorp38 11-05-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MJB (Post 3022711)
I don't know much about Porsche, but the guy that bought my Z owns a 911. He loves it and tracks it often. He did say that his burns oil though, and Porsche owners go by "if it doesn't burn oil, something is wrong with it", :icon14:

The 964's leaked burnt oil they were notorious for that. The heads need to be rebuilt more so than most cars I'd say but keep in mind this is all mostly due to owner neglect more often than not. Its like anything if you take care of a car properly it shouldn't have any major issues unless it is a manufacturing defect.


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