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scorp38 11-02-2014 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital neOn (Post 3019990)
I looked at a few 370z in the Seattle area. It's not easy finding one in the right price range, color and mileage. Heck it's not easy finding any low mileage Z. Yes there are brand new ones but they are too much for my budget.

Yup I was in the same boat. Wanted PW/ persimmon at first, could only find one it was imported from porta Rico :mad: and had too many miles. So I went on to mag black / persimmon. Couldn't find one of those period so I got black/ black

edk370 11-02-2014 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scorp38 (Post 3019828)
Yup I will be getting a cayman or 911 when I get rid of this.

991 baby! that's the car to get. Get the 3.8 if possible.

scorp38 11-02-2014 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 3020039)
991 baby! that's the car to get. Get the 3.8 if possible.

Well see when the time comes I want a gt3 and the 991 only comes with pdk not a fan of dual clutches.

RicerX 11-03-2014 08:44 AM

So there was this time I was dating this chick. She was decently hot. She wasn't "top shelf" per se but I was 19 and I couldn't see the big picture too well (most 19 year olds don't). Lots of my friends hyped her up - she was the new kid on the block. I put up with a lot of crap with her. She would do things to piss me off ALL THE TIME, but I was like "how could I do better than this?" All the top shelf girls were surely worse to put up with - they were probably higher maintenance. I justified in my own mind that my girl was ok even though she was a 7/10 (depending on lighting, we could swing an 8. Take her out for Italian without packing any Trident Spearmint, and we're talking 6.5). Surely that 9/10 chick is worse in the sack or has some sort of heavy baggage or has a kid somewhere or gets FAR too much attention on instagram and facebook or has bad breath or would be far too expensive at the Cheesecake Factory or orders her Starbucks drink with no less than 18 weird preferences like adding nonfat goat milk, vegan whip cream, unicorn **** sprinkles, and crushed ice made with glaciers from the north pole or any other total nightmare that comes with something that appears less obtainable in life.

After dealing with a mediocre relationship for around 5 years, it ended. Sure, I thought it was easy, but after having mediocre for SO LONG and trying to tell myself that mediocre was ok and that GREAT wasn't worth chasing after and justifying that to myself, I ended up with worse than mediocre. I ended up with boring, unrewarding, unsatisfying, and disappointment.

So I decided to go see what these 9/10 bitches were about. I was older, wiser, and a bit more seasoned in "the game". So I jumped in. And then I realized how stupid I was for talking myself into mediocre for so long. And most of the 9/10s just don't have bad breath like I thought. Or baggage.

So you guys, by now, are all like "WTF are you even talking about, RicerX?"

Well, you may have thought about I was talking about relationships. NAY, sirs and madams.

I'm talking about why 13.7lb/hp is never going to be better than 9.7lb/hp no matter what you tell yourself when you're 19.

Duc_Z09 11-03-2014 08:49 AM

:icon18::tup:

scorp38 11-03-2014 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3020258)
So there was this time I was dating this chick. She was decently hot. She wasn't "top shelf" per se but I was 19 and I couldn't see the big picture too well (most 19 year olds don't). Lots of my friends hyped her up - she was the new kid on the block. I put up with a lot of crap with her. She would do things to piss me off ALL THE TIME, but I was like "how could I do better than this?" All the top shelf girls were surely worse to put up with - they were probably higher maintenance. I justified in my own mind that my girl was ok even though she was a 7/10 (depending on lighting, we could swing an 8. Take her out for Italian without packing any Trident Spearmint, and we're talking 6.5). Surely that 9/10 chick is worse in the sack or has some sort of heavy baggage or has a kid somewhere or gets FAR too much attention on instagram and facebook or has bad breath or would be far too expensive at the Cheesecake Factory or orders her Starbucks drink with no less than 18 weird preferences like adding nonfat goat milk, vegan whip cream, unicorn **** sprinkles, and crushed ice made with glaciers from the north pole or any other total nightmare that comes with something that appears less obtainable in life.

After dealing with a mediocre relationship for around 5 years, it ended. Sure, I thought it was easy, but after having mediocre for SO LONG and trying to tell myself that mediocre was ok and that GREAT wasn't worth chasing after and justifying that to myself, I ended up with worse than mediocre. I ended up with boring, unrewarding, unsatisfying, and disappointment.

So I decided to go see what these 9/10 bitches were about. I was older, wiser, and a bit more seasoned in "the game". So I jumped in. And then I realized how stupid I was for talking myself into mediocre for so long. And most of the 9/10s just don't have bad breath like I thought. Or baggage.

So you guys, by now, are all like "WTF are you even talking about, RicerX?"

Well, you may have thought about I was talking about relationships. NAY, sirs and madams.

I'm talking about why 13.7lb/hp is never going to be better than 9.7lb/hp no matter what you tell yourself when you're 19.

That was the longest story to come out and say HP to weight ratio is important lmfao. ;)

MJB 11-03-2014 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by scorp38 (Post 3020268)
That was the longest story to come out and say HP to weight ratio is important lmfao. ;)

When he started talking about his love life I stopped reading :icon14:

mishuko 11-03-2014 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by scorp38 (Post 3020025)
Yup I was in the same boat. Wanted PW/ persimmon at first, could only find one it was imported from porta Rico :mad: and had too many miles. So I went on to mag black / persimmon. Couldn't find one of those period so I got black/ black

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Originally Posted by Digital neOn (Post 3019990)
I looked at a few 370z in the Seattle area. It's not easy finding one in the right price range, color and mileage. Heck it's not easy finding any low mileage Z. Yes there are brand new ones but they are too much for my budget.


i was in the same boat as you guys and then i saw the car i wanted with mileage that was unreal... 15000km (aprox 9.5k miles?) and 2012 model touring /sport package (no nav). it was priced at the same as 2010-2009 models with twice the mileage. Yea i was suspicious but it has a clean title and the guy needed a 'sedan'.

it was between s2000, frs, and the Z. let's say i didn't want a 10y/o with 60k+, or another dime a dozen frs. Plus at 200hp with 4 seats i was thinking if it could even keep up with the new carolla's... or a prius...

As soon as i sat in the Z for a test drive i lost my sh.. I knew this car was it. this was the one. i'm still glad i got it over the frs/brz.. i'll take a quote frm teh stang / vette forums just because

NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!

KMO-II 11-03-2014 09:48 AM

the 370Z NISMO, is one of the smoothest, sexiest, (grown folks) car on the market. those other cars mentioned are toy cars for teenagers and youngsters. Just my opinon. Performance and Looks, an awesome combo for all Z's

mishuko 11-03-2014 10:08 AM

My gf likes the look of the frs... i keep asking her if she likes walking and being single?

the styling on the frs/brz is pretty aggressive... minus engine doesn't match the aesthics.

on another note the FRS special edition 1.0 with its 4 pipe exhaust... won't that thing reduce backflow and drop the hp?

Driftomodachi 11-03-2014 10:29 AM

Lack of horsepower causes insecurity God forbid the person has a small penis

scorp38 11-03-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 3020375)
Lack of horsepower causes insecurity God forbid the person has a small penis

It will be offset with a Chevy 2500 duramax 12" lift and hella sic Les Schwab kmc rock star wheels ;)

TerribleONE 11-03-2014 10:37 AM

This thread is still alive?

scorp38 11-03-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3020383)
This thread is still alive?

Very

Zoren 370 11-03-2014 10:53 AM

LoL. I don't care all you say about this and that!

All I know I love my Z but this....

one f*ckin beautiful looking car!


http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5e9d4452.jpg

Read T 11-03-2014 10:54 AM

I haven't trodded through all 9 pages to read the posts. But after reading the initial post, I will say that I think the BRZ/FRS/GT86 gets a LOT more hate than the 370z. I also believe the 370z deserves a good amount of the hate because most of the people that drive our cars are epic douchenozzles or ricers with a big wallet.

TerribleONE 11-03-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Read T (Post 3020407)
I haven't trodded through all 9 pages to read the posts. But after reading the initial post, I will say that I think the BRZ/FRS/GT86 gets a LOT more hate than the 370z. I also believe the 370z deserves a good amount of the hate because most of the people that drive our cars are epic douchenozzles or ricers with a big wallet.

If you want ricers with a big wallet go check out the Subi guys..

Zoren 370 11-03-2014 11:00 AM

But this is blasphemy!!!!

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psab94a7cf.jpg

Courtesy of Fly1.

Sinfully insane.

Zoren 370 11-03-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 3020409)
If you want ricers with a big wallet go check out the Subi guys..


No thank you. Im happy where my wallet is. Lol

kenchan 11-03-2014 11:15 AM

is that an ant with yellow plasti-shittt?

Zoren 370 11-03-2014 11:19 AM

Nope its a yellow cab in New York! :-)

kenchan 11-03-2014 11:23 AM

oh ok... for a cab, that looks great.

problem with trd is that they ignored the lack of power and just put some overpriced decorations and bolt-ons for premium price. that's only going to cause more people to race you and you cant win.

ive been looking at brz for summer dd and if id do it, id get the one with the standard full options and just mod the rest using aftermarket bits.

sp911 11-03-2014 11:33 AM

when i was shopping for my next car i did drive and compare the z, the frs and the hyundai genesis. i'm sure the brz can be tossed in here for comparison. for me it was easy. i knew that if i had bought anything lesser than the z, which the fsr/brz is, then i wouldn't be happy or as happy. for me it then came to shopping for the right z. the brz/frs is a poor man's z, as the z is a poor man's porsche. 8 months later and i have not regretted the decision. yeah, the frs is a nice car, nicer than say a corolla, a camry, or a honda. but not nicer than a z.

kenchan 11-03-2014 11:34 AM

nice choice.

brucelidat 11-03-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Read T (Post 3020407)
I haven't trodded through all 9 pages to read the posts. But after reading the initial post, I will say that I think the BRZ/FRS/GT86 gets a LOT more hate than the 370z. I also believe the 370z deserves a good amount of the hate because most of the people that drive our cars are epic douchenozzles or ricers with a big wallet.

I don't think the 370z is that riced out yet, but I fear for it as it gets older and cheaper.

kenchan 11-03-2014 11:42 AM

the z is perfect for street. fast enough to be faster than most cars on the road...but not too fast that makes the drive boring.

too often people get all caught up on magazine spec racing and end up not using even 50% of the Z's true potential and just complain and yak. perhaps the weakest part of the Z is the driver.

on the otherhand, be prepared to be owned by camry's while driving a frs/brz.

scorp38 11-03-2014 11:52 AM

Toyubarus look good I will give them that, but aside from looks there is nothing worth noting about them. All they did was basically resurrect what was already in place in the late 90's early 2000's with the s2ks and miatas. There is absolutely nothing substantial or amazing about these cars, other than they look good.

KittenMittens 11-03-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Digital neOn (Post 3019983)
I live in the Portland area which is large and have only seen a handful of Z's since i started getting interested in the Z. So in about 6 months i remember counting 8 370z's and i suspect that i have seen the same couple of Z's more then once so the actual number is probably smaller.

Even before i knew too much about Z and before i was even interested i would always stare at my neighbors Z. I thought it was some kind of rare GTR Porsche thingy...:wtf2:

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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3020258)
So there was this time I was dating this chick. She was decently hot. She wasn't "top shelf" per se but I was 19 and I couldn't see the big picture too well (most 19 year olds don't). Lots of my friends hyped her up - she was the new kid on the block. I put up with a lot of crap with her. She would do things to piss me off ALL THE TIME, but I was like "how could I do better than this?" All the top shelf girls were surely worse to put up with - they were probably higher maintenance. I justified in my own mind that my girl was ok even though she was a 7/10 (depending on lighting, we could swing an 8. Take her out for Italian without packing any Trident Spearmint, and we're talking 6.5). Surely that 9/10 chick is worse in the sack or has some sort of heavy baggage or has a kid somewhere or gets FAR too much attention on instagram and facebook or has bad breath or would be far too expensive at the Cheesecake Factory or orders her Starbucks drink with no less than 18 weird preferences like adding nonfat goat milk, vegan whip cream, unicorn **** sprinkles, and crushed ice made with glaciers from the north pole or any other total nightmare that comes with something that appears less obtainable in life.

After dealing with a mediocre relationship for around 5 years, it ended. Sure, I thought it was easy, but after having mediocre for SO LONG and trying to tell myself that mediocre was ok and that GREAT wasn't worth chasing after and justifying that to myself, I ended up with worse than mediocre. I ended up with boring, unrewarding, unsatisfying, and disappointment.

So I decided to go see what these 9/10 bitches were about. I was older, wiser, and a bit more seasoned in "the game". So I jumped in. And then I realized how stupid I was for talking myself into mediocre for so long. And most of the 9/10s just don't have bad breath like I thought. Or baggage.

So you guys, by now, are all like "WTF are you even talking about, RicerX?"

Well, you may have thought about I was talking about relationships. NAY, sirs and madams.

I'm talking about why 13.7lb/hp is never going to be better than 9.7lb/hp no matter what you tell yourself when you're 19.


This thread, I loves it! <3

kenchan 11-03-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by scorp38 (Post 3020495)
Toyubarus look good I will give them that, but aside from looks there is nothing worth noting about them. All they did was basically resurrect what was already in place in the late 90's early 2000's with the s2ks and miatas. There is absolutely nothing substantial or amazing about these cars, other than they look good.

they are substantial in a way it brought back the roots in car enthusiasm. they are driver's cars. too bad subaru missed the price point by about $4K due to expensive drivetrain. with that styling and price, people expect more power.

brucelidat 11-03-2014 12:13 PM

They are nice cars with just a few big problems.

The interiors are cheap feeling like a 21 year old's car, but this is due to going for a low price point which is understandable, but also makes them less appealing to older buyers.

They are overpriced for their power. In it's current state, it's a few grand too much. If it had more power, then it would probably not be overpriced. I think it should either be about 22k as-is or have about 250 hp at it's current price.

With that being said, it's a good car for what it is trying to be, but it doesn't really compete directly with the 370z. The Z is more actual speed oriented and costs quite a bit more. The FRS/BRZ is more fun-oriented. I have no problem with them as long as they don't try to race me try to tell me their car is better/faster than mine. I don't have a problem with most cars as long as they don't drive like pricks. People like what they like but even your car is a real monster, you don't get to drive like a a$$hole.

ProfessorDave 11-03-2014 12:20 PM

There are only two things I hate in this world:
1. People who are intolerant of other people's cars.
2. The Mitsubishi Eclipse
:p

adidascanada 11-03-2014 12:29 PM

What about
3. The Dutch? :icon18:

kenchan 11-03-2014 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3020521)
The interiors are cheap feeling like a 21 year old's car, but this is due to going for a low price point which is understandable, but also makes them less appealing to older buyers.

not necessarily. people like me wont be buying this car as an only car so it doesnt matter if the interior looks basic. i kinda like the barebones look.

hell it still looks waaay better than a 350Z's interior. :icon17:

kenchan 11-03-2014 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProfessorDave (Post 3020526)
There are only two things I hate in this world:
1. People who are intolerant of other people's cars.
2. The Mitsubishi Eclipse
:p

:rofl2:

scorp38 11-03-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3020521)
They are nice cars with just a few big problems.

The interiors are cheap feeling like a 21 year old's car, but this is due to going for a low price point which is understandable, but also makes them less appealing to older buyers.

They are overpriced for their power. In it's current state, it's a few grand too much. If it had more power, then it would probably not be overpriced. I think it should either be about 22k as-is or have about 250 hp at it's current price.

With that being said, it's a good car for what it is trying to be, but it doesn't really compete directly with the 370z. The Z is more actual speed oriented and costs quite a bit more. The FRS/BRZ is more fun-oriented. I have no problem with them as long as they don't try to race me try to tell me their car is better/faster than mine. I don't have a problem with most cars as long as they don't drive like pricks. People like what they like but even your car is a real monster, you don't get to drive like a a$$hole.

More than likely they will tell you it's better than your car. That's one of the problems I have with them. Most owners think they're gods chariots, and they're the best car ever made, because racecar. Bla bla ect.... They'll probably try to make a point that is has a boxer in it as well which in my opinion the fa is a crap motor.

Tadpole 11-03-2014 12:56 PM

Is that a Corolla with a body kit?

scorp38 11-03-2014 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3020584)
Is that a Corolla with a body kit?

Exactly but its slower than a corolla

Austonian 11-03-2014 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital neOn (Post 3018429)
so what is the consensus?

Your a either a Z driver or not.....

/thread.

b15 11-03-2014 02:49 PM

I, personally, don't have any hate towards the BRZ/FRS. It's a lightweight, rwd car with good balance/handling. If they factory turbo'd it with minimal weight increase, I'd consider one as an alternative to a Miata.

Real car enthusiasts don't 'hate'. The haters, typically, are also posers who don't know how to drive the car they bought; but rather bought it as a status symbol.

scorp38 11-03-2014 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b15 (Post 3020696)
I, personally, don't have any hate towards the BRZ/FRS. It's a lightweight, rwd car with good balance/handling. If they factory turbo'd it with minimal weight increase, I'd consider one as an alternative to a Miata.

Real car enthusiasts don't 'hate'. The haters, typically, are also posers who don't know how to drive the car they bought; but rather bought it as a status symbol.

I hate cars as follows; eclipse, every VW basicly, smart car that's about it I suppose so I guess if I'm a poser because of that.


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