The 370z gets disrespected for a few reasons. Its a niche car. There aren't any other actual competitors in its price range that you can compare apples to apples. Its a 2 seater sports car. So, it is often compared to the Mustang GT and Camaro SS. Sports cars and muscle cars are two different things. So when compared, the Zs power is lacking.

Another thing is the Z isn't the best at anything, but it is pretty good in most areas. Therefore its looked over by most bloggers and critics because there is another car that "outshines" the Z in a specific category, and they glorify it for that.

It seems that even Nissan has forgotten about the car which also adds to the flame. Look at the FRS/BRZ. The marketing on that car has teenagers/young adults believing its the best car under a million dollars. Most magazine articles, blogs, big name video reviews swing on the testicles (or lack there of) of this car like Tarzan. When was the last time you saw a Z commercial? The last time I saw one wasn't even a Z commercial. It was a guy stretching his Z into a Maxima. It has also had very minor "updates".

The aftermarket for the Z is also pretty slim compared to other sporty cars. Not to mention expensive when talking about other similarly priced vehicles aftermarket choices.

As to why the FRS/BRZ guys are hating, probably because they are internet warriors who have never driven a 370z. People read things on the internet and take it for gold rather than doing their own personal research. They repeat information someone else has said as something they know as fact. I don't say anything about the FRS/BRZ's driving characteristics because I have never driven one.

As a matter of fact, Ill probably go drive one tomorrow for the hell of it lol.

You sir are a ******* genius the truth flows from your mouth like dragons breath lol. No j/k good point though your 100% right.

Prepare to be underwhelmed. My bothers friend bought a brand new brz premium when they first came out. Pre ordered it like 1 year ahead of time and everything. He didn't know **** about cars but because he heard they were going to be the next big thing. He bought it 33k out the door. Then I bought my 370z and he drove it, he hates himself now to say the least.

Holy **** 33k for a BRZ lololololol I hope they wined and dined him first

That's what the premium models cost with leather and navi all that ****. Out the door yeah stupid.

Seriously though, I remember the BRZ STI rumors, which was to be a turbo'd BRZ. If they built a BRZ with a STi engine, RWD, Brembos and a better suspension/ wider wheels and tires, I'd trade in the Z tomorrow. Period.

Yeah but if it came to be, judging by the cost of a regular brz it would cost probably 1-2k more than a wrx sti.

I kinda agree, but I tell you I had more fun in my ex's underpowered YARIS over the FRZ. The Yaris isn't writing checks it can't cash.

That's cool. Id still be very interested.

Replace the M power with NISMO and make the silver accents black and I think it would make an awesome cluster for the Z.

Yeah I've been hoping that they would do it with the ae86. I figure the Japan market would get it first then trickle over here eventually. I'd rather see a performance version or the fr-s over the brz.

Yeah I do like the BMW clusters in general well thought out.

100% facts!

That's the only damn Z commercial I've ever seen. I've seen the debut commercial of the brz with the driver power sliding through canyon corners, the frs commercials as well and even the new TRD edition. Not once have I seen a nismo 370z commercial or an official 370z commercial. There's tons of altima and maxima commercials.

Like stated above its a niche car and they don't sell that many from what I hear. So they probably can't justify the marketing on a car that doesn't appeal to a broad spectrum of people. How about that infinity q50 eau rouge commercial though.

Do it, you'll appreciate your Z 10 times more

Which makes sense I suppose. Funny thing is that I get compliments everywhere I go. My gf works in the corp. building and when I go to pick her up in the parking lot outside the entrance, I see brand new lexus gs models, new audi's, bmw m5's, corvettes, mercedes amg models. Once their shift ends and they come outside, take a glance at my car and they flock right to it. My car is stock minus the painted factory wheels but they absolutely love it and say..
"wow, such a beautiful car, who makes it?"
Thank you! It's a Nissan 370z
"what? I didn't know nissan made such a beautiful car"

I get that ALL THE TIME lol

Yeah I get a lot of looks and compliments from people. They are a beautiful car in every way. Well the mercades, Audi, BMW people will say it has cheap interior. The camaro, mustang, challenger, people will say it doesn't have enough power or 4 seats. The corvette, viper guys, are usually to into themselves to give a **** about any other car than what they own. Lol those are my opinions.

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I'm a bodybuilder and wont brag about being a big guy but i couldn't fit in it, but the Z fits like a glove to me. The fact that I could not get my left leg out of the cabin only having to use my arms to bring it to my chest sucked big time, but then again if you're into the cross fit arena and are ripped and a small guy you may fit right in or if you're a girl :tiphat: But seriously the car looks great on the outside, the instruments are not ergonomically set, kind of reminds me of the Saturn Sky which a friend owns. So on that note if you join a BRZ forum you will get a totally different perspective on the car. I know I tried them both and the Z after almost a year still makes me smile and I still get compliments from both men and women who see it. I still catch my wife staring at it when she walks into the garage, maybe because they both have great looking booties...:yum:

That cluster looks like it belongs on a spaceship.

Ah, that makes a lot of sense. I wasn't aware the tune actually made it "peakier" than the regular 370Z. It's definitely underwhelming below 4000rpm, and then you hit 5k and it's like "hold the f*ck on."

To be honest I'd prefer more mid range torque because that's where 99% of my driving happens. It's also what I love about my Ducati; it may not have the top end power of the inline bikes, but it pulls like a freight train anywhere between 5k and 10k.:eekdance:

Exactly the usable HP/TQ is better on a standarf model vs a nismo. So unless your redlining every gear the standard 370z will be faster.

I don't really have a feeling for the FRS/BRZ, I really could not find a driving position, a bit too tall for the little car, where the Z, plenty of headroom (i'm 6"3").. just enjoy and love my Z......

Very true. Scion as well as Subaru have strong marketing and large numbers of followers. I said it before, i think the BRZ/FRS is a good car but at the same time i think it is a gimmick, kind of a trend or fab. Sure a lot of car enthusiasts buy the FRS/BRZ and like it for the fun factor but at the same time a lot of youngsters also buy the car. I have a strong suspicion that many BRZ/FRS owners do not know much about the car they purchased, no i know that for a fact after going over and visiting their forum and speaking to actual owners.


BRZ/FRS owners seem out of touch with reality. They speak about their BRZ's and FRS's as the finest handling cars in the world. Others actually think that they have a fast car or by dropping a few hundred pounds that they will magically be running high 13 second 1/4s.



Honestly that was one turn off for me, i did not want to be associated with people that wear backwards baseball caps and have a vocabulary that consists of 'yo dawg' and 'that's hella tight'.

Cayman gts are the handling cars to beat. The fr-s/brz can even throw a rock close to the Cayman.

Only Maxima commercial I recall is the Z stretch one, it has been pretty much overlooked by Nissan of recent like the Z. Its about the bread and butter Altima!

Why let teenagers bother you? When I see BRZs/FRS on the street with Hello-Kitty graphics, "Ryu shoryuken" Japanese words and stuff, with their big speed boat wings and wild body kits, I just chuckle. The import scene is passé. It's the rice crowd.

In 2009 I erroneously predicted that the 370 would fall into the "rice out when it's 4, 5 yrs. old because they'd be about 1/2 in price, and all the teenagers would buy them and put kanji graphics and wild wings." The bad economy has deterred that. I'm glad I was wrong....:ugh2: The 370 crowd is the "we're moving up to Porsches, Vettes, Teslas, etc." We're not the boy-racer crowd.

Yup I will be getting a cayman or 911 when I get rid of this.

Yo dawg my FRS is tight...tighter then the Cayman. It eats 370z's and Caymans on the track for breakfast. With the right driver and cold air intake the FRS can easily keep up with both cars.

Power slides dawg, don't you know my FRS can drift into corners? I can leave both cars in the dust, haven't you seen the reviews for the FRS or BRZ? Come on now dawg....once i get a turbo i will eat vetts all day too and probably smoke lambos too.


Me and my homies are goin' down to the Wendy'd parking lot, FRS's, BRZ's V-tec's....yea...what now haters?

Hella bro I'll be there for skids.

If you want a 215 Hp car that's fun to drive get a Juke NISMO RS. Within an inch of the Z in track and wheelbase, and it really scoots through traffic. Only my Z is more fun.

So I just bought my 370z.
I cross-shopped the BRZ, S2000 and Cayman. I drove the BRZ about 4 times trying to make up my mind.

All cars have pluses and minues.
The BRZ is slow as ****. Slower than you think. It's rediculous how slow it is.
That said, I had every intention to supercharge it day 1.
Watch a youtube video of the Litchfield BRZ and it's f*cking sick.
I also wanted to track whatever car I bought. This is where I decided aginst the BRZ. If you dig into the forums, and read up on the track guys, the BRZ is a big piece of ****. The core problem is the engine suffers from an bad direct injection design which causes detination and causes the engine to gernade. MOST of the track guys I saw stopped racing it out of fear.
This can apparently be fixed with a good tune, but it seems like a bad issue that would cause undo worry. A 200hp $24,000 car is not worth that level of worry. If I wanted to worry about my POS car blowing up, I would have bought a Cayman. Also, to replace the injectors requires massive amount of labor.
And even supercharged, the BRZ isn't fast. A supercharged BRZ is slower than a S2000 or 370Z.

The BRZ handles good, it's lower to the ground and more gokart like. I dig it. It needs 240-280hp from the factory to be a good car.

Yes I've heard from a couple people and read the fa20 makes good power when boosted, but can't handle it for long. Cosworth is trying to work out a deal with Subaru to be a factory upgrade option. This would be covered under warranty as well with 3 packages to choose from. So there might be hope for a boosted factory brz.

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When shopping for my fifth Z car in 2012 I did look at the BRZ/FRS design. I thought it was a nice vehicle, but they didn't "pop" like the Z, so I continued with the Z line and now am on my sixth one. I like to watch people watch cars go by and enjoy doing it myself. A guy in my neighborhood owns an Audi R8 and when that sucker goes by I stop and stare and think - if I just had another $100,000 that would be my car. But what I have noticed when cruising in my Z is that a large number of folks just stop and stare at the car as it goes by. I also watch people as a BRZ/FRS goes by. They don't look in the same way since it seems it is more just another car on the road. I have always liked that there are not many Z cars on the road. While I live out in the remote state of New Mexico I have probably only seen a dozen or so Z cars in the last year. I like that. But I have seen literally hundreds of the BRZ/FRS line. To me the Z is something very special and unique and that is worth everything. trackster22

There is definitely a low amount of 370zs on the road compared to toyubaru twins. I see like 20 or more a day its ridiculous.

I live in the Portland area which is large and have only seen a handful of Z's since i started getting interested in the Z. So in about 6 months i remember counting 8 370z's and i suspect that i have seen the same couple of Z's more then once so the actual number is probably smaller.

Even before i knew too much about Z and before i was even interested i would always stare at my neighbors Z. I thought it was some kind of rare GTR Porsche thingy...:wtf2:

Haha I live up by Seattle and yeah I've seen like 10-15 on a consistent basis. I like not having a car that everyone else has. Same reason I bought a z31 300zx nobody has clean ones.

I looked at a few 370z in the Seattle area. It's not easy finding one in the right price range, color and mileage. Heck it's not easy finding any low mileage Z. Yes there are brand new ones but they are too much for my budget.