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Justice97 08-28-2014 12:20 PM

If they are no longer using engine displacement in the name, I am never selling my 370Z.

Looking for a 240Z, gotta have the first if I am keeping the last.

Firebase99 08-28-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 2946155)
This thread has gone down in a ball of fire

Never had a chance.

Volk Z 08-28-2014 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Justice97 (Post 2946177)
If they are no longer using engine displacement in the name, I am never selling my 370Z.

Looking for a 240Z, gotta have the first if I am keeping the last.

So if they came out with the car named "Z" with no number and had an in line 6 twin turbo and was priced really well say 55k that wouldn't appeal to you?

Personally I like the car to be named something a little more stealth like Z not 390z or whatever to include displacement.

theDreamer 08-28-2014 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Justice97 (Post 2946177)
If they are no longer using engine displacement in the name, I am never selling my 370Z.

Looking for a 240Z, gotta have the first if I am keeping the last.

It was never meant to be engine displacement as the name, even the US it was suppose to be called Fairlady Z, but they changed it before launch.

edk370 08-28-2014 02:48 PM

maaaan, but if the next Z is like the S30 by using an inline-6, and turbo charging it a la BMW's current M3/4...I'm in line to buy it. I don't know why BMW recently decided to do the inline 6 turbo thing. I always thought they were lower displacement, high revving, high h.p. but wuss torque thing like Honda? It was a way to showcase German engineering.

I digress. Nissan needs to revive the turbo-6 thing. Do it, do it, do it!

Justice97 08-28-2014 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 2946348)
So if they came out with the car named "Z" with no number and had an in line 6 twin turbo and was priced really well say 55k that wouldn't appeal to you?

Personally I like the car to be named something a little more stealth like Z not 390z or whatever to include displacement.

Never said I wouldn't buy another...yes it would appeal.



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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2946353)
It was never meant to be engine displacement as the name, even the US it was suppose to be called Fairlady Z, but they changed it before launch.


"Meant" means nothing, "is" means everything.

Volk Z 08-29-2014 08:59 AM

Well the good news is a lot of the car makers are putting some effort in creating the next big sports car that's affordable... even kia is trying to jump in with the stinger... 315hp rwd 4 cylinder turbo. Toyota is showcasing the ft1 and talk of upping thee frs to a more 370z ballgame for power and performance with a 300 plus Hp engine and lightweight....quality

This is good news for us consumers as now they have competition pushing them to up their game or they will be out of the rat race.

I am hoping for another era like the 90s which had a plethora of amazing affordable performance cars to choose from.

Nargrakhan 08-30-2014 10:24 AM

Hmm... I've been wondering...

Nissan has been putting the IDx on the table, off the table, then on the table for awhile now. If it happens, we're looking at 2018 at the earliest. The car is supposed to be at or under $30,000.

We now have the next generation Z, which at the earliest would be 2016... Nissan could probably afford to have it slip to 2017, since their trying to milk the new NISMO for the last remaining drops.

On top of all that, there's the future GT-R.

So that means Nissan will have THREE sports car lines. Others have been telling me, it's unusual for that many to be supported at once: especially in today's market.

If the IDx does happen, wouldn't Nissan be competing with itself if the new Z was also in the 30K range? I thought that was something companies didn't like. Why would Nissan have a $30,000 Z series and $30,000 IDx series? Wouldn't it be one or the other?

Either the new Z is moving to a different price bracket, or the IDx will be the more expensive brand.

Z_ealot 08-30-2014 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2947945)
Hmm... I've been wondering...

Nissan has been putting the IDx on the table, off the table, then on the table for awhile now. If it happens, we're looking at 2018 at the earliest. The car is supposed to be at or under $30,000.

We now have the next generation Z, which at the earliest would be 2016... Nissan could probably afford to have it slip to 2017, since their trying to milk the new NISMO for the last remaining drops.

On top of all that, there's the future GT-R.

So that means Nissan will have THREE sports car lines. Others have been telling me, it's unusual for that many to be supported at once: especially in today's market.

If the IDx does happen, wouldn't Nissan be competing with itself if the new Z was also in the 30K range? I thought that was something companies didn't like. Why would Nissan have a $30,000 Z series and $30,000 IDx series? Wouldn't it be one or the other?

Either the new Z is moving to a different price bracket, or the IDx will be the more expensive brand.

except that the 30k mark is what nissan is trying to keep the iDX under, the reason the iDX has been having trouble getting approved by nissan corporate is that they didnt have an existing platform that could support it, but with the talk now of it sharing the next gen Z's platform it now has one which will make it considerably less expensive to produce. nissan has always had the iDX aimed squarely at taking on the toyota/subaru twins including in the pricing department. the whole $30k figure came about only because nissan was quoted as saying that with the iDX they would have trouble keeping the price under 30k as they would have to invest in creating a chassis for it, but as has been said, that is now solved by them using the next gen Z chassis for the iDX as well. i could very well see the iDX being their new entry level sports car and then having the Z be the in between with the GT-R being their top of the line.

Nargrakhan 08-30-2014 10:45 AM

So the IDx is going to look -- or at least have the same shape -- as the new Z? The IDx is a poor man's Z?

The IDx is going to be cheaper, because those getting the new Z, will be paying the difference? Robbing from Peter to pay Paul?

KaienZ34 08-30-2014 10:55 AM

They won't look like each other, they will share many things under the skin.

Z_ealot 08-30-2014 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2947970)
They won't look like each other, they will share many things under the skin.

exactly, much like the G37 coupe and the 370Z....same idea, just at a lower price point

Volk Z 08-30-2014 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2947945)
Hmm... I've been wondering...

Nissan has been putting the IDx on the table, off the table, then on the table for awhile now. If it happens, we're looking at 2018 at the earliest. The car is supposed to be at or under $30,000.

We now have the next generation Z, which at the earliest would be 2016... Nissan could probably afford to have it slip to 2017, since their trying to milk the new NISMO for the last remaining drops.

On top of all that, there's the future GT-R.

So that means Nissan will have THREE sports car lines. Others have been telling me, it's unusual for that many to be supported at once: especially in today's market.

If the IDx does happen, wouldn't Nissan be competing with itself if the new Z was also in the 30K range? I thought that was something companies didn't like. Why would Nissan have a $30,000 Z series and $30,000 IDx series? Wouldn't it be one or the other?

Either the new Z is moving to a different price bracket, or the IDx will be the more expensive brand.

Yep Toyota is planning to do the same thing. 3 sports cars.
Scion frs I with a 4 cylinder turbo at around 30
Toyota supra with a possible 6 cylinder turbo
A yaris type hatch with a 4 cylinder turbo. Will be a gti type car. OR fiesta type.

Like in said the sports car market will be saturated soon which is good for us likening the 90s.

Mazda has talk of a rx7 successor. Honda talks of a sports car. Kim bringing in the stinger. Ford offering 4 cylinder turbo. V6 an don't v8 platform.
Even lotus elise is supposed to be around 55k with a 320hp 4 cylinder turbo only weighing 2400 pounds.

I'm looking at my next car to be under 60k but pack one heck of a performance package. My eyes are on the Lotus elise or Toyota supra aka Ft1.
Unless the new z is amazing I'm moving on to a new brand after 10 years of Z's

edk370 08-30-2014 08:04 PM

A car company does not place its bets on sports cars. Only Porsche, Lambo, Ferrari, and the like do that....Well, Porsche does SUVs too. But regular car companies cannot afford to invest all its resources and time into the engineering, testing, R&D etc. to build an affordable line of sports cars. Nissan and the other Japanese cars did in the late 80s to mid 90s, and they paid for it (how ever you want to interpret that).

Everything is going to be either hybrid or full electric. That is the near future.

Volk Z 08-30-2014 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 2947945)
Hmm... I've been wondering...

Nissan has been putting the IDx on the table, off the table, then on the table for awhile now. If it happens, we're looking at 2018 at the earliest. The car is supposed to be at or under $30,000.

We now have the next generation Z, which at the earliest would be 2016... Nissan could probably afford to have it slip to 2017, since their trying to milk the new NISMO for the last remaining drops.

On top of all that, there's the future GT-R.

So that means Nissan will have THREE sports car lines. Others have been telling me, it's unusual for that many to be supported at once: especially in today's market.

If the IDx does happen, wouldn't Nissan be competing with itself if the new Z was also in the 30K range? I thought that was something companies didn't like. Why would Nissan have a $30,000 Z series and $30,000 IDx series? Wouldn't it be one or the other?

Either the new Z is moving to a different price bracket, or the IDx will be the more expensive brand.

Yep Toyota is planning to do the same thing. 3 sports cars.
Scion frs I with a 4 cylinder turbo at around 30
Toyota supra with a possible 6 cylinder turbo
A yaris type hatch with a 4 cylinder turbo. Will be a gti type car. OR fiesta type.

Like in said the sports car market will be saturated soon which is good for us likening the 90s.

Mazda has talk of a rx7 successor. Honda talks of a sports car. Kia bringing in the stinger. Ford offering 4 cylinder turbo. V6 an don't v8 platform.
Even lotus elise is supposed to be around 55k with a 320hp 4 cylinder turbo only weighing 2400 pounds.

I'm looking at my next car to be under 60k but pack one heck of a performance package. My eyes are on the Lotus elise or Toyota supra aka Ft1.
Unless the new z is amazing I'm moving on to a new brand after 10 years of Z's

Virtual 08-31-2014 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 2948249)
Yep Toyota is planning to do the same thing. 3 sports cars.
Scion frs I with a 4 cylinder turbo at around 30
Toyota supra with a possible 6 cylinder turbo
A yaris type hatch with a 4 cylinder turbo. Will be a gti type car. OR fiesta type.

Like in said the sports car market will be saturated soon which is good for us likening the 90s.

Mazda has talk of a rx7 successor. Honda talks of a sports car. Kia bringing in the stinger. Ford offering 4 cylinder turbo. V6 an don't v8 platform.
Even lotus elise is supposed to be around 55k with a 320hp 4 cylinder turbo only weighing 2400 pounds.

I'm looking at my next car to be under 60k but pack one heck of a performance package. My eyes are on the Lotus elise or Toyota supra aka Ft1.
Unless the new z is amazing I'm moving on to a new brand after 10 years of Z's

mazda has rumors every year about the rx7 returning. Ill believe it when I see it, and didn't kia cancel their sports car?. Honda was working on a s2k successor but I guess thats a false rumor as well since they haven't said anything. The only vehicles I am looking forward to now is the new mazda thats being unveiled on Wednesday, And the new EVO X SAM with more power sometime next year.

watson853 08-31-2014 07:07 AM

More info on the next 370Z
 
Honda confirmed the s2000 earlier this month.

http://carbuzz.com/news/2014/8/3/Con...-Life-7721784/


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Volk Z 08-31-2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Virtual (Post 2948346)
mazda has rumors every year about the rx7 returning. Ill believe it when I see it, and didn't kia cancel their sports car?. Honda was working on a s2k successor but I guess thats a false rumor as well since they haven't said anything. The only vehicles I am looking forward to now is the new mazda thats being unveiled on Wednesday, And the new EVO X SAM with more power sometime next year.

What is Mazda supposed to be unveiling? Not like I would buy it since I hate all mazda products except the rx7.....

Z_ealot 08-31-2014 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 2948807)
What is Mazda supposed to be unveiling? Not like I would buy it since I hate all mazda products except the rx7.....

the new mx-5 miata

Virtual 08-31-2014 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by watson853 (Post 2948496)
Honda confirmed the s2000 earlier this month.

Confirmed: Honda S2000 Will Return to Life


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well damn, slap my *** and call me sally. I had no idea, I thought the rumor fell through again. So I guess its going to be 300ish hp and awd ?

NoLaKrewe 08-31-2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Virtual (Post 2948917)
well damn, slap my *** and call me sally. I had no idea, I thought the rumor fell through again. So I guess its going to be 300ish hp and awd ?

Don't think it's going to have AWD, and if it does Mazda may have caught my attention. Ahh, wait I forgot they have 4 cylinder. I just don't value and car with a 4 cylinder a sports car. I know that makes me ignorant but after you ride in a twin turbod v8, a 4 cylinder just doesn't feel right

KaienZ34 08-31-2014 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe (Post 2948928)
Don't think it's going to have AWD, and if it does Mazda may have caught my attention. Ahh, wait I forgot they have 4 cylinder. I just don't value and car with a 4 cylinder a sports car. I know that makes me ignorant but after you ride in a twin turbod v8, a 4 cylinder just doesn't feel right

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NoLaKrewe 08-31-2014 08:05 PM

Well when I think of a sports car I think overall. Power, handling, and styling. The Zs have always outclassed everything in my opinion. The 370z isn't the fastest, it doesn't handle the best but god damn is it beautiful. It's also not the slowest and it can handle itself quite good. It's the best looking car on the market with decent power and decent handling with infinite potential. It wins my vote generation after generation.

Array 08-31-2014 08:10 PM

Hard to believe but we'll see.. I doubt Nissan would give up there line of Z engines for a benz mark

watson853 08-31-2014 09:32 PM

More info on the next 370Z
 
Mid engined hybrid setup 350+ hp is the most we know about the new s2000.


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Eclipz 08-31-2014 10:34 PM

If the engine of the next Z could look like this...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...30DETT_001.JPG

http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/carli...t=dee5d77a598e

NoLaKrewe 08-31-2014 10:46 PM

I just uh...yeah

Limeybastard 08-31-2014 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe (Post 2948928)
Don't think it's going to have AWD, and if it does Mazda may have caught my attention. Ahh, wait I forgot they have 4 cylinder. I just don't value and car with a 4 cylinder a sports car. I know that makes me ignorant but after you ride in a twin turbod v8, a 4 cylinder just doesn't feel right

Back In England we call sportish 4 bangers, hot hatches.

Tick64 09-02-2014 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Limeybastard (Post 2949024)
Back In England we call sportish 4 bangers, hot hatches.

In Canada we call 4 sportish bangers a hot orgy :icon17:

Antistupid 09-02-2014 10:35 PM

I remember when I had my 07' HR. I could run the new Mustang, most of them bolted and roll on them with no issues stock. And I got 25mpg doing it. The Z, if talking numbers isn't to par with its price range now. Even the mustang is taking to the road-course well these days. The Z needs power. There are a few v6s NA making more power surely Nissan can deliver from the VQ line if it wanted to. Or they could put some small turbos on it and make it a really nice tuner car like the older BMW 135's. This is my second, and while I like the 370 more than my 350, Ill more likely also opt for something with more power, par handling, and back seat next time. Unless Nissan gives me the 400HP option within the correct price range.
I grew up with a Mustang collector as a father. He rocked a 67 GT, and a 65 289. I had the 71' Mach 1 and use to low whooping the kids who had daddies shinny new mustang out for a drive. I don't know about everyone elses 370s, but mine cant hang with the 5.0 lol. This makes me sad, and promotes a condition I call, spend to you win. Wife hates it

OR if Nissan wants to start talking upping the cash requested, then they need to offer this 2 seater as a match for vette, and well lol.

NoLaKrewe 09-02-2014 10:44 PM

Considering the HP to weight ratios for the price range of the car I don't think it's that bad.

Personally, I've never liked Fords and I think Mustangs are horribly ugly. Not only that but every kid from 17 to 21 owns one with the same exact exhaust system as the next one.

I love the Z culture, and I could agree that they need to up the HP on them but if they do I know they will only higher the price tag. Only time will tell.

Virtual 09-02-2014 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe (Post 2950758)
Considering the HP to weight ratios for the price range of the car I don't think it's that bad.

Personally, I've never liked Fords and I think Mustangs are horribly ugly. Not only that but every kid from 17 to 21 owns one with the same exact exhaust system as the next one.

I love the Z culture, and I could agree that they need to up the HP on them but if they do I know they will only higher the price tag. Only time will tell.

As much of a mustang/camaro hater I am, I honestly only hate on them because of their popularity (I know its a stupid reason, but it gets stale seeing 10 of them in a 2 miles radius). But I really like the rear of the new mustang. Damn it looks hot. And does upping the hp always need to increase price? the new 5.0 shed off 200lbs and upped the power to 435hp and starts of at 32k, I think the previous 5.0 started off at the same price as well? very tempting, I guess thats why they sell well.

http://www.torquenews.com/sites/defa...?itok=KC7anDcB

NoLaKrewe 09-02-2014 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Virtual (Post 2950779)
As much of a mustang/camaro hater I am, I honestly only hate on them because of their popularity (I know its a stupid reason, but it gets stale seeing 10 of them in a 2 miles radius). But I really like the rear of the new mustang. Damn it looks hot. And does upping the hp always need to increase price? the new 5.0 shed off 200lbs and upped the power to 435hp and starts of at 32k, I think the previous 5.0 started off at the same price as well? very tempting, I guess thats why they sell well.

http://www.torquenews.com/sites/defa...?itok=KC7anDcB

Well that's part of the Z culture is it not? I see 350s every now and again but around where I live I almost never see a 370z. I can't even tell you when was the last time I saw a 370z that had any mods. Now I've seen 16 modded mustangs on my way to work. Same thing with the camaro. Especially if you ride in a bad neighborhood around here, every other house is a mustang or camaro.

I think it's easier to squeeze HP out of a V8 over a V6. Like I said, I can be wrong and I am most surely a fan boy of the lineage. Just if they were to add HP, it would be a bigger V6 or turbos. Both to me would up the price.

Limeybastard 09-03-2014 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe (Post 2950791)
Well that's part of the Z culture is it not? I see 350s every now and again but around where I live I almost never see a 370z. I can't even tell you when was the last time I saw a 370z that had any mods. Now I've seen 16 modded mustangs on my way to work. Same thing with the camaro. Especially if you ride in a bad neighborhood around here, every other house is a mustang or camaro.

I think it's easier to squeeze HP out of a V8 over a V6. Like I said, I can be wrong and I am most surely a fan boy of the lineage. Just if they were to add HP, it would be a bigger V6 or turbos. Both to me would up the price.


Said it before will say it again, Only Mustang I would like is a GT500. Now thats muscle. Probably get bored of the wheel spinning and stuff after a few months mind...

NoLaKrewe 09-03-2014 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Limeybastard (Post 2950804)
Said it before will say it again, Only Mustang I would like is a GT500. Now thats muscle. Probably get bored of the wheel spinning and stuff after a few months mind...

Yes, I don't see those often at all. Ironically though, when I was younger I out raced one in my Civic Si. Since I was young, dumb and doing something illegal I won't go into it. But I spanked him, as he was trying to show off in his brand new car for his wife but it appeared he had no experience with a stick or driving. I've come a long way and dont advocate racing besides on a track.

Dirk McGurck 09-03-2014 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Virtual (Post 2950779)
As much of a mustang/camaro hater I am, I honestly only hate on them because of their popularity (I know its a stupid reason, but it gets stale seeing 10 of them in a 2 miles radius). But I really like the rear of the new mustang. Damn it looks hot. And does upping the hp always need to increase price? the new 5.0 shed off 200lbs and upped the power to 435hp and starts of at 32k, I think the previous 5.0 started off at the same price as well? very tempting, I guess thats why they sell well.

I love Mustangs, but I didn't wait to buy one because Ford was taking forever with the specs. And for the record, the new GT weighs ~150lbs more than the previous car. Yes, it has power over the Z, but I wasn't about to buy a sports coupe that weighed more than my AWD, turbo sedan.

Power is good, but a lower weight is easier in turns. I think the Z would be perfect with an NA 3.8L or 3.9L VQ that revs to 8000rpm and lays down 375-400hp with the same weight or slightly less.

NoLaKrewe 09-03-2014 06:50 AM

Personally, I would like to see the Z lose about 200-300 pounds and gain about 60-80HP. So your idea sounds nice.

Antistupid 09-03-2014 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe (Post 2950909)
Personally, I would like to see the Z lose about 200-300 pounds and gain about 60-80HP. So your idea sounds nice.

yup

watson853 09-04-2014 04:35 PM

Hopefully this isn't bad news for the future Z but it sure sounds like it is.

http://carbuzz.com/news/2014/9/4/Is-...22403/#!bPPOFp


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Bleek 09-05-2014 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 2927679)
$60k price tag I would rather buy a used GTR. Inflation sucks when you don't get a raise to match it.

You do in the Army (1% a year :ugh2: )


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