Z35 motor theory

brucelidat

There is no way they are putting a v8 into the next z. All talk has been about dropping weight and efficiency. Only the American makers are still putting big V8s into their sporty cars. At best, it'll have a turbo 6 or turbo 6 w/hybrid. The cheapest and lamest route (unless they cut massive weight also) is the vq carried over but with DI. The possibly most likely option is a turbo 4.

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edk370

^If I kept my 370, I would've looked into doing a V8 swap like the drift 370. The VK56 or whatever is capable of 450+ hp if built right, without FI. But after I sold my 370, I started looking at FD3S with Hinson LS swaps. But I think too many of them out there are d1cked up weekend projects akin to how people do Honda swaps and leave them all mickey-moused. And I looked at Z32 TTs but I don't want the hassle of a 20+ y.o. FI'd car acting up on me.

M4 for me. I6 turbo, 12 sec all day long.

Dirk McGurck

Perfect world would be a little lighter, but also moving the motor back a foot and the wheels forward a couple inches. Get the weight distribution closer to 50/50.

TT V6 that still revs high, or a slightly larger V6 that revs higher than the current motor. 400hp and the Touring model around 3000lbs.

If I don't like the next version of the Z, I can always take that money and put it towards a solid TT build for my car.

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Dirk McGurck

4.0L V8 is a tiny motor.

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Volk Z

Ummmm what? In a japanese car thats massive. I mean GoDZilla uses a v6....

If you want a V8 go buy a Mustang. A v6tt or inline 6 tt would be far more fun and have much more tuning potential done right.

I assume you would take a 4000 pound car with a 600hp v8 over a 2700 pound car with a 420hp 4 cylinder?

The difference with those options is one corners and can go fast straight lines and one will not corner at all.

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Dirk McGurck

Yes. In fact, a 4.0L V8 is quite small compared to the V8s everyone else uses. And our VQs are about the same size as some V8s, and weight, especially if you are considering a TT V6. I agree that a turbo is easier for power adding, but a hi-reving V8 would be a lot of fun. Look at F1. 2.4L V8 revving to 19k RPM. Not saying it needs to be that extreme, but it would be fun to have an NA hi-revving motor.

I considered a Mustang. I bought the Z because it's lighter and was more affordable for the options.

You also assume incorrectly, and your sentence structure is suspect.

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mishuko

Seriously... I was on the market for a true coupe (ie 2 doors and 2 seats) and lets see what I could have got... Z, miata, lotus... okay nevemind I even asked that. Alfa Romeo not even in canadia nor could i afford one =(

in all honesty, i got the Z with full knowledge of its potentials, qualities, qweks, and draw backs. No other car is like it on the market, I like the design (tight waist wide hips) and the engine. There aren't any comparable engines out there. You cannot compare a FI'd engine to a NA engine because any FI'd car will have a higher output. But what would that engine do non-fi'd? What's the stress on the FI on the car? Will you get the same mileage before the heart goes? So many questions, not enough answers.

Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate all cars.


those ultra-hyper revving engines need to be rebuilt after every race so i can't say that's too practical... but would be cool to see if they could push one out for the crowds

edk370

^I think they are.

Have fun with a used Viper. I think that's a money pit. I doubt they're reliable. I drove a 2002 Viper. Very fast but scary car. I thought the interior was waaaaay too small. Your left (clutch) leg is literally pushed towards the right. It's a rolling coffin. I guess I'm claustrophobic. But I don't know about the new ones though.

Chuck33079

I love the assumption people keep making about how cars with V8s don't handle well, and cars with 4 or 6 cylinder motors do. I never heard any E92 M3 owners complain.

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FPenvy

just think koenigsegg pulls 1,371 BHP out of a TT 5.0 V8.

i think i'd be ok with a 4.0 V8 that i can throw some snails on lol

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mishuko

Seriously the 15 nismo or 12 or earlier front fascia... dem fangs for biting!

okay lets not get greedy...

njobe89

my friend has one and it's a beast of a car

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b15

However the v8 people are suggesting is Nissan's VK45/VK56. A little different than the E92 M3.

Also why have an NA v8 when you can have a TT 6cyl. I don't see F82 M4 owners wishing they had a v8 . One owner in our Sunday C&C group traded his ZR1 for the M4 and doesn't miss it one bit...

Chuck33079

A NA V8 can make the same power numbers, with no lag, with less heat and less complexity and less weight once you add in all of the turbo parts and plumbing. If Nissan had offered a V8 Z with 450 ft/lbs of torque, I'd have happily done that over boosting the Z. Plus, it's not like you can't boost a V8.

And the guy who traded the ZR1 for the M4 doesn't miss it one bit because the interior of a Vette is really sad, especially when you pay 100k for it.

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b15

True. It's all preference. I would rather a factory turbo engine. After being around the Forced Induction crowd, I'm ready to join. To me, the bang for the buck factor is factory FI. Lag is all about the equipment you use and how it's tuned. Factory FI cars have little to no lag and very nice torque curves. The M4, for example, peak torque comes early on around 2k and stays pretty flat throughout the rev band.

And yes, the interior/build quality played into it, but he said it was just the overall driving experience. I asked him specifically about the engine, how it was going from a giant blown v8 to a TT I6, and he said that the only thing he missed about it was the instant low end torque vs the BMW having to spool up a bit. Just his opinion though. I don't own either so I can't comment on it.