your take on these 370z criticisms

bomberman · 09-07-2009, 02:26 AM

and they're usually the only criticisms in reviews, annoying road noise and engine note

??

g96818 · 09-07-2009, 04:09 AM

only annoying road noise i heard was the rain hitting the rear fender wall

09-07-2009, 04:16 AM

It's a sports car, so road noise is expected. Don't like the noise, GO buy a Lexus.

The engine note is like having sex with Megan Fox... Nothing wrong with it. Stop reading those megazines and go do a test drive

noodles · 09-07-2009, 04:27 AM

They don't call them critics because they love everything.

Island_370 · 09-07-2009, 06:38 AM

I tend to agree with them. They are normally right. But it is always easier to point out the bad.

For as inexpensive as this car is, I was willing to accept the "bads" with the many many goods.

The biggest "bad" that really bothers me is the suspension's (and VDC) intolerance of any road imperfection. The VDC is very VERY invasive. I think that the if the suspension was more complacent, the VDC would be less invasive. The road (rear fender) noise doesn't really bother me.

But I love the looks and the hugely linear power band. It is close to a stock turbo car, but w/o the issues of turbos. And coming from a turbo car, I do not miss that.

DooDooBrown · 09-07-2009, 08:47 AM

Its a sports car, and its a sports car.

Modshack · 09-07-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Island_370

I tend to agree with them. They are normally right. But it is always easier to point out the bad.

For as inexpensive as this car is, I was willing to accept the "bads" with the many many goods.

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The car is built to a price point so there will be some issues from those who demand $60K quality in a $30K car...............

I'm also tired of the "it's a sports car" rationalization. This really should have nothing to do with a cars inherent quality and/or failings. At it's price point it's going to have some but not because "it's a sports car"...

6MT · 09-07-2009, 09:56 AM

Valid criticisms (both). But this is a sports car, not a sports coupe or sedan.

ZKindaGuy · 09-07-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bomberman

and they're usually the only criticisms in reviews, annoying road noise and engine note
??

People criticizing the 370Z probably are folks who:

1. have an ax to grind with any vehicles that were designed or made by Japanese folks.

2. have wives who wear the pants in their family.

3. run to the doctor if they experience an erection for more than four hours.

zilent_jay · 09-07-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy

People criticizing the 370Z probably are folks who:

1. have an ax to grind with any vehicles that were designed or made by Japanese folks.

2. have wives who wear the pants in their family.

3. run to the doctor if they experience an erection for more than four hours.

None of those apply to me, and I own a 370z. I also owned a 350z for 5 years. I have plenty of criticisms for the 370z (more so than I did for my 350z).

#1.The shifter vibrates and makes a very loud buzzing noise at high RPM.
#2.The suspension is not very compliant with road imperfections.
#3.The driver seat was made for fatass americans and moves side to side and clicks.
#4.The side view mirrors are a complete failure/design flaw. Huge blind spots on both sides, even with the mirrors angled out 100%.
#5.The rear hatch sticks and you have to push the release button repeatedly.
#6.Having to push on the paint to get the gas door open.

6MT · 09-07-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zilent_jay

None of those apply to me, and I own a 370z. I also owned a 350z for 5 years. I have plenty of criticisms for the 370z (more so than I did for my 350z).

#1.The shifter vibrates and makes a very loud buzzing noise at high RPM.
#2.The suspension is not very compliant with road imperfections.
#3.The driver seat was made for fatass americans and moves side to side and clicks.
#4.The side view mirrors are a complete failure/design flaw. Huge blind spots on both sides, even with the mirrors angled out 100%.
#5.The rear hatch sticks and you have to push the release button repeatedly.
#6.Having to push on the paint to get the gas door open.

#1. Huh? Not mine!
#2. It's not a Pontiac Vibe!
#3. WTF? I'm 165 lbs and the seat fits like a glove. No side to side here.
#4. Those mirrors are excellent! Nice and large... maybe you don't have them adjusted (?)
#5. No hatch sticking problem (never was with mine).
#6. Yeah ok.... but not a big deal.

wuff!! Com'on folks. Like it was said before, stop expecting $60k quality from a $30k car.

zilent_jay · 09-07-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

#1. Huh? Not mine!
#2. It's not a Pontiac Vibe!
#3. WTF? I'm 165 lbs and the seat fits like a glove. No side to side here.
#4. Those mirrors are excellent! Nice and large... maybe you don't have them adjusted (?)
#5. No hatch sticking problem (never was with mine).
#6. Yeah ok.... but not a big deal.

wuff!! Com'on folks. Like it was said before, stop expecting $60k quality from a $30k car.

#1. Numerous other people have reported the same thing.
#2. Exactly, it's a sports car. My 350z was much more compliant.
#3. Not compared to my 350z. The seat has been widened and is less of a bucket than in my previous Z. I slide around more than I did previously.
#4 The mirrors suck, plain and simple. I did note that even with the mirrors angled out as far as they would go, they do not give you visibility of your blind spots, which is their sole purpose. I'll take a picture if you don't believe me. I added those ugly cheap convex mirrors from autozone and have had no issues since.
#5 Again, numerous other people have reported the same thing.

Forgive the dirty car, but this picture is case and point. Taken with a 50mm from the drivers view(it's a bit zoomed due to the mm of the lens), with the mirrors fully angled out, and with a car in the blind spot. You can't see the truck at all with the stock mirror or by turning your head and looking for that matter.

I left most of the opinionated stuff out. Like the fact that my 350z felt better, inspired more confidence, and was more fun to drive even though it wasn't as fast.

6MT · 09-07-2009, 01:42 PM

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I added those ugly cheap convex mirrors from autozone and have had no issues since.

LMFAO!!

Forrest · 09-07-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by zilent_jay

Forgive the dirty car, but this picture is case and point. Taken with a 50mm from the drivers view(it's a bit zoomed due to the mm of the lens), with the mirrors fully angled out, and with a car in the blind spot. You can't see the truck at all with the stock mirror or by turning your head and looking for that matter.

I left most of the opinionated stuff out. Like the fact that my 350z felt better, inspired more confidence, and was more fun to drive even though it wasn't as fast.

thank you for that picture i had a round convex mirror from walmart and it sucked ***. Yours looks like it works. i will get one like yours and place it in the same spot.

kannibul · 09-07-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by zilent_jay

#1. Numerous other people have reported the same thing.
#2. Exactly, it's a sports car. My 350z was much more compliant.
#3. Not compared to my 350z. The seat has been widened and is less of a bucket than in my previous Z. I slide around more than I did previously.
#4 The mirrors suck, plain and simple. I did note that even with the mirrors angled out as far as they would go, they do not give you visibility of your blind spots, which is their sole purpose. I'll take a picture if you don't believe me. I added those ugly cheap convex mirrors from autozone and have had no issues since.
#5 Again, numerous other people have reported the same thing.

Forgive the dirty car, but this picture is case and point. Taken with a 50mm from the drivers view(it's a bit zoomed due to the mm of the lens), with the mirrors fully angled out, and with a car in the blind spot. You can't see the truck at all with the stock mirror or by turning your head and looking for that matter.

I left most of the opinionated stuff out. Like the fact that my 350z felt better, inspired more confidence, and was more fun to drive even though it wasn't as fast.

And I bet if you checked your rearview, or checked the portal on the passenger side, or out the passenger window, one (or more) of those three would have shown the vehicle.

09-07-2009, 02:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
bomberman Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: hell Posts: 2 Drives: bugatti veyron Rep Power: 15	your take on these 370z criticisms and they're usually the only criticisms in reviews, annoying road noise and engine note ??

09-07-2009, 04:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
g96818 Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: A rock in a big pond Posts: 681 Drives: 2009 370Z, 2012 M56 Rep Power: 3394	only annoying road noise i heard was the rain hitting the rear fender wall __________________ CZP are lying thieves!

09-07-2009, 06:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
Island_370 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 228 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z SR M6 Rep Power: 15	I tend to agree with them. They are normally right. But it is always easier to point out the bad. For as inexpensive as this car is, I was willing to accept the "bads" with the many many goods. The biggest "bad" that really bothers me is the suspension's (and VDC) intolerance of any road imperfection. The VDC is very VERY invasive. I think that the if the suspension was more complacent, the VDC would be less invasive. The road (rear fender) noise doesn't really bother me. But I love the looks and the hugely linear power band. It is close to a stock turbo car, but w/o the issues of turbos. And coming from a turbo car, I do not miss that. __________________ Autobahn Country Club (North and South Tracks), Blackhawk Farms, Grattan, Gingerman, Mid-Ohio, Putnam Park, Road America, Sears Point, Thunderhill, VIR and "The Ring"

09-07-2009, 09:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
6MT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: ITU Zone 2 Posts: 22,459 Drives: Reliant Robin Rep Power: 1790	Valid criticisms (both). But this is a sports car, not a sports coupe or sedan. __________________ Andrew 2009 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT sold 2013 Honda Civic Si coupe D/D

09-07-2009, 04:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
SB350z Guest Posts: n/a	It's a sports car, so road noise is expected. Don't like the noise, GO buy a Lexus. The engine note is like having sex with Megan Fox... Nothing wrong with it. Stop reading those megazines and go do a test drive

09-07-2009, 04:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
noodles Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: SoCali Posts: 61 Drives: Mazda (for now) Rep Power: 16	They don't call them critics because they love everything.

09-07-2009, 08:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
DooDooBrown Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ranson, WV Posts: 178 Drives: 09 370 Touring w/spt Rep Power: 15	Its a sports car, and its a sports car.