your take on these 370z criticisms

ZKindaGuy · 09-07-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bomberman

and they're usually the only criticisms in reviews, annoying road noise and engine note
??

People criticizing the 370Z probably are folks who:

1. have an ax to grind with any vehicles that were designed or made by Japanese folks.

2. have wives who wear the pants in their family.

3. run to the doctor if they experience an erection for more than four hours.

zilent_jay · 09-07-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy

People criticizing the 370Z probably are folks who:

1. have an ax to grind with any vehicles that were designed or made by Japanese folks.

2. have wives who wear the pants in their family.

3. run to the doctor if they experience an erection for more than four hours.

None of those apply to me, and I own a 370z. I also owned a 350z for 5 years. I have plenty of criticisms for the 370z (more so than I did for my 350z).

#1.The shifter vibrates and makes a very loud buzzing noise at high RPM.
#2.The suspension is not very compliant with road imperfections.
#3.The driver seat was made for fatass americans and moves side to side and clicks.
#4.The side view mirrors are a complete failure/design flaw. Huge blind spots on both sides, even with the mirrors angled out 100%.
#5.The rear hatch sticks and you have to push the release button repeatedly.
#6.Having to push on the paint to get the gas door open.

6MT · 09-07-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zilent_jay

None of those apply to me, and I own a 370z. I also owned a 350z for 5 years. I have plenty of criticisms for the 370z (more so than I did for my 350z).

#1.The shifter vibrates and makes a very loud buzzing noise at high RPM.
#2.The suspension is not very compliant with road imperfections.
#3.The driver seat was made for fatass americans and moves side to side and clicks.
#4.The side view mirrors are a complete failure/design flaw. Huge blind spots on both sides, even with the mirrors angled out 100%.
#5.The rear hatch sticks and you have to push the release button repeatedly.
#6.Having to push on the paint to get the gas door open.

#1. Huh? Not mine!
#2. It's not a Pontiac Vibe!
#3. WTF? I'm 165 lbs and the seat fits like a glove. No side to side here.
#4. Those mirrors are excellent! Nice and large... maybe you don't have them adjusted (?)
#5. No hatch sticking problem (never was with mine).
#6. Yeah ok.... but not a big deal.

wuff!! Com'on folks. Like it was said before, stop expecting $60k quality from a $30k car.

zilent_jay · 09-07-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

#1. Huh? Not mine!
#2. It's not a Pontiac Vibe!
#3. WTF? I'm 165 lbs and the seat fits like a glove. No side to side here.
#4. Those mirrors are excellent! Nice and large... maybe you don't have them adjusted (?)
#5. No hatch sticking problem (never was with mine).
#6. Yeah ok.... but not a big deal.

wuff!! Com'on folks. Like it was said before, stop expecting $60k quality from a $30k car.

#1. Numerous other people have reported the same thing.
#2. Exactly, it's a sports car. My 350z was much more compliant.
#3. Not compared to my 350z. The seat has been widened and is less of a bucket than in my previous Z. I slide around more than I did previously.
#4 The mirrors suck, plain and simple. I did note that even with the mirrors angled out as far as they would go, they do not give you visibility of your blind spots, which is their sole purpose. I'll take a picture if you don't believe me. I added those ugly cheap convex mirrors from autozone and have had no issues since.
#5 Again, numerous other people have reported the same thing.

Forgive the dirty car, but this picture is case and point. Taken with a 50mm from the drivers view(it's a bit zoomed due to the mm of the lens), with the mirrors fully angled out, and with a car in the blind spot. You can't see the truck at all with the stock mirror or by turning your head and looking for that matter.

I left most of the opinionated stuff out. Like the fact that my 350z felt better, inspired more confidence, and was more fun to drive even though it wasn't as fast.

6MT · 09-07-2009, 01:42 PM

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I added those ugly cheap convex mirrors from autozone and have had no issues since.

LMFAO!!

zilent_jay · 09-07-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

LMFAO!!

why is an engineering defect so funny?

6MT · 09-07-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by zilent_jay

why is an engineering defect so funny?

It's not (if you refer to it as a "defect"). It's your

use of stick-on convex mirrors.

Blown32 · 09-07-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 6mt

Lmfao!!

lol!

Forrest · 09-07-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by zilent_jay

Forgive the dirty car, but this picture is case and point. Taken with a 50mm from the drivers view(it's a bit zoomed due to the mm of the lens), with the mirrors fully angled out, and with a car in the blind spot. You can't see the truck at all with the stock mirror or by turning your head and looking for that matter.

I left most of the opinionated stuff out. Like the fact that my 350z felt better, inspired more confidence, and was more fun to drive even though it wasn't as fast.

thank you for that picture i had a round convex mirror from walmart and it sucked ***. Yours looks like it works. i will get one like yours and place it in the same spot.

kannibul · 09-07-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by zilent_jay

#1. Numerous other people have reported the same thing.
#2. Exactly, it's a sports car. My 350z was much more compliant.
#3. Not compared to my 350z. The seat has been widened and is less of a bucket than in my previous Z. I slide around more than I did previously.
#4 The mirrors suck, plain and simple. I did note that even with the mirrors angled out as far as they would go, they do not give you visibility of your blind spots, which is their sole purpose. I'll take a picture if you don't believe me. I added those ugly cheap convex mirrors from autozone and have had no issues since.
#5 Again, numerous other people have reported the same thing.

Forgive the dirty car, but this picture is case and point. Taken with a 50mm from the drivers view(it's a bit zoomed due to the mm of the lens), with the mirrors fully angled out, and with a car in the blind spot. You can't see the truck at all with the stock mirror or by turning your head and looking for that matter.

I left most of the opinionated stuff out. Like the fact that my 350z felt better, inspired more confidence, and was more fun to drive even though it wasn't as fast.

And I bet if you checked your rearview, or checked the portal on the passenger side, or out the passenger window, one (or more) of those three would have shown the vehicle.

zilent_jay · 09-07-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

And I bet if you checked your rearview, or checked the portal on the passenger side, or out the passenger window, one (or more) of those three would have shown the vehicle.

Nope, hence the reason I installed those obnoxious mirrors. The truck is not visible by looking over, and is not visible from the rear view. I'll take a few more pictures if you don't believe me. I'm a very observant driver and like to be aware of my surroundings, especially being on the same road as the likes of you people.

theDreamer · 09-07-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by zilent_jay

None of those apply to me, and I own a 370z. I also owned a 350z for 5 years. I have plenty of criticisms for the 370z (more so than I did for my 350z).

#1.The shifter vibrates and makes a very loud buzzing noise at high RPM.
~Is your shifter 100% stock?
#2.The suspension is not very compliant with road imperfections.
~Nor was any other sports car I drove with similar suspension. Sports car....
#3.The driver seat was made for fatass americans and moves side to side and clicks.
~You are not alone, link.
#4.The side view mirrors are a complete failure/design flaw. Huge blind spots on both sides, even with the mirrors angled out 100%.
~My mirrors are perfect, yes they are a bit large but no blind spots after you spend a good amount of time adjusting them. Not saying you have not spent the time, but the only blind spot I deal with is when backing out of a parking spot (which I avoid doing).
#5.The rear hatch sticks and you have to push the release button repeatedly.
~Quick search, link
#6.Having to push on the paint to get the gas door open.
~Yes it sucks, but if it bothers you that much then wear gloves. Because you have to touch the door handle to open your car, touch the paint to open the back hatch (mostly).

Anything else?

zilent_jay · 09-07-2009, 03:01 PM

#1.Is your shifter 100% stock?

Yes, other people have had the same problem.

#2.The suspension is not very compliant with road imperfections.
~Nor was any other sports car I drove with similar suspension. Sports car....

My 350z took bumps while corning like a champ. The car stayed composed. This car has a tendency to float and fly all over the place. Not exactly confidence inspiring. (I'm not the only one to complain about this)

#3.The driver seat was made for fatass americans and moves side to side and clicks.
~You are not alone, link.

#4.The side view mirrors are a complete failure/design flaw. Huge blind spots on both sides, even with the mirrors angled out 100%.
~My mirrors are perfect, yes they are a bit large but no blind spots after you spend a good amount of time adjusting them. Not saying you have not spent the time, but the only blind spot I deal with is when backing out of a parking spot (which I avoid doing).

From my picture, you can see that my mirrors are angled out as far as they go and you absolutely cannot see the vehicle next to me.

#5.The rear hatch sticks and you have to push the release button repeatedly.
~Quick search, link

Yep.

#6.Having to push on the paint to get the gas door open.
~Yes it sucks, but if it bothers you that much then wear gloves. Because you have to touch the door handle to open your car, touch the paint to open the back hatch (mostly).

Yeah, this one is not a big deal, considering the release mechanism on my 350z would always stick. I guess because this car is black I noticed hand prints easier.

Blown32 · 09-07-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by zilent_jay

None of those apply to me, and I own a 370z. I also owned a 350z for 5 years. I have plenty of criticisms for the 370z (more so than I did for my 350z).

#1.The shifter vibrates and makes a very loud buzzing noise at high RPM.
#2.The suspension is not very compliant with road imperfections.
#3.The driver seat was made for fatass americans and moves side to side and clicks.
#4.The side view mirrors are a complete failure/design flaw. Huge blind spots on both sides, even with the mirrors angled out 100%.
#5.The rear hatch sticks and you have to push the release button repeatedly.
#6.Having to push on the paint to get the gas door open.

Wow!I think you are married and the wife drives you crazy so this the only outlet you have.
1.Shifter vibrates and a loud buzzing at high rpm?
I know when I'am at high rpm's I'am buzzing and vibrating some from the excitement.Thats one of the reasons I bought the SPORTS CAR!
2.Well now I don't believe any car is built for all road imperfections.Any factory sports car suspension of a 30..35,000 dollar car leaves room for improvement.
3.The seat was made for "fat *** americans"?So I guess you are a skinny a$$ foreigner that likes to complain alot.As for the seat clicking.Well take it back to the dealer and have them install a seat for a skinny a$$ complaining foreigner!
4.As for the mirrors you must not only be a skinny a$$ miserable foreigner but a very short one at that.Failure/design flaw??First get a couple of pillows to sit on so you can see out of the mirrors!As to the angles ..well there is always one in the crowd.
5.I'll have to give you that one.
6.Having to "push the paint" to open the gas door lid?Wow!Has anyone ever heard that one before?Putting your finger on the paint from what I know has never caused any problems?Has anyone ever heard of that complaint.
Now granted if you have had your finger up your a$$ I can see your point and perhaps that is why it annoys you.So try to be more specific with your next list of complaints!
Well hope I have been helpful in your dilemma with all these complaints.Have a nice day!

6MT · 09-07-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Blown32

Wow!I think you are married and the wife drives you crazy so this the only outlet you have.
1.Shifter vibrates and a loud buzzing at high rpm?
I know when I'am at high rpm's I'am buzzing and vibrating some from the excitement.Thats one of the reasons I bought the SPORTS CAR!
2.Well now I don't believe any car is built for all road imperfections.Any factory sports car suspension of a 30..35,000 dollar car leaves room for improvement.
3.The seat was made for "fat *** americans"?So I guess you are a skinny a$$ foreigner that likes to complain alot.As for the seat clicking.Well take it back to the dealer and have them install a seat for a skinny a$$ complaining foreigner!
4.As for the mirrors you must not only be a skinny a$$ miserable foreigner but a very short one at that.Failure/design flaw??First get a couple of pillows to sit on so you can see out of the mirrors!As to the angles ..well there is always one in the crowd.
5.I'll have to give you that one.
6.Having to "push the paint" to open the gas door lid?Wow!Has anyone ever heard that one before?Putting your finger on the paint from what I know has never caused any problems?Has anyone ever heard of that complaint.
Now granted if you have had your finger up your a$$ I can see your point and perhaps that is why it annoys you.So try to be more specific with your next list of complaints!
Well hope I have been helpful in your dilemma with all these complaints.Have a nice day!

09-07-2009, 03:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
zilent_jay Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: OKC Posts: 96 Drives: 2009 MB Base Sport Rep Power: 18	#1.Is your shifter 100% stock? Yes, other people have had the same problem. #2.The suspension is not very compliant with road imperfections. ~Nor was any other sports car I drove with similar suspension. Sports car.... My 350z took bumps while corning like a champ. The car stayed composed. This car has a tendency to float and fly all over the place. Not exactly confidence inspiring. (I'm not the only one to complain about this) #3.The driver seat was made for fatass americans and moves side to side and clicks. ~You are not alone, link. #4.The side view mirrors are a complete failure/design flaw. Huge blind spots on both sides, even with the mirrors angled out 100%. ~My mirrors are perfect, yes they are a bit large but no blind spots after you spend a good amount of time adjusting them. Not saying you have not spent the time, but the only blind spot I deal with is when backing out of a parking spot (which I avoid doing). From my picture, you can see that my mirrors are angled out as far as they go and you absolutely cannot see the vehicle next to me. #5.The rear hatch sticks and you have to push the release button repeatedly. ~Quick search, link Yep. #6.Having to push on the paint to get the gas door open. ~Yes it sucks, but if it bothers you that much then wear gloves. Because you have to touch the door handle to open your car, touch the paint to open the back hatch (mostly). Yeah, this one is not a big deal, considering the release mechanism on my 350z would always stick. I guess because this car is black I noticed hand prints easier.