Now U Can Hate Me - 370z v 350z

ChrisSlicks · 09-01-2009, 09:20 PM

Chubbs,

Sway bars make a world of difference at high speed in this car. It feels far more planted at confident taking corners at 90+ mph thanks to the body roll being all but eliminated.

If you could drive someones car that has sway bars installed I think you would be impressed. It is a very cheap fix.

frost · 09-01-2009, 09:27 PM

Chubbs, you crazy

ZKindaGuy · 09-01-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs

I also like the interior, but it was slightly underwhelming. It looks like they've taken the 350z plastics and put a few tarty leather bits on top. My son laughed at the 'cycle helmets' they've glued onto the tops of the 3 dashboard dials - and I too cannot see why they are there. He hates the suede - personally, I can see why it's there (less slippage!).
Inside, I love the slope of the tops of the doors - ergonomically good.
Bose stereo (I was driving the posh model) - adequate, just like the 350z Bose.

First off let me say I owned a 2007 350Z for 2 years and my 370Z for about 4 months now...so I think my rebuff of your "observations" holds more weight than your brief encounter.

Tell your son his "cycle helmets" are to prevent the blue-tinted glass from reflecting the light which can prevent the dials from being read during the day. And just to let you know even my 350Z had the 'cycle helmet' guages. If yours didn't then you must of just bought the base package.

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Originally Posted by chubbs

Overall, I think the 370z looks good, but I must say that it doesn't eclipse my 350z - which also looks pretty damn tasty

That's pure

. Having had both the 350Z looked and handled like an idea...but the 370Z looks like the idea came true but fully refined in looks and handling. I have had the 370Z at about a dozen shows so far and it has received more compliments than my 350Z ever did doing 2 years of shows.

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Originally Posted by chubbs

The handling IS CR@P - TOTAL CR@P. At low speeds the 370z feels just like my 2006 350z - no different at all - fairly comfortable, but you can feel all the bumps in the road. I can live with this because of my car's high speed handling. At high speeds (and this is where it matters to me), I had no confidence in the 370z - it floated, it lurched, it rolled, it made me feel that I had to slow down, which I did (even though I was on my private road

). At 120+mph my 350z hugs the road, it just sits there and it goes exactly where I tell it to go - even at 100+mph this 370z felt dangerous (please don't tell me to check the tyre pressures, they were ok). I sooo wanted to like the 370z, but the high speed handling (or lack of it) killed it for me.

I have driven the 370Z into clover leafs at 70 MPH and held the curves without drift or roll. So again you must have bought just the base model 350Z as teh 370 Z Touring + Sport blows away the 350Z in regards to stability and handling.

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Originally Posted by chubbs

..... so the 370z needs to be good and I'm sorry, but it just wasn't quite good enough

I'm sorry but I would agree with you if you were even the slightest bit correct in your assessment but I'm sorry, your assessment just wasn't quite good enough....

NIZMOZ · 09-02-2009, 07:37 AM

As I track my car all the time and an Instructor at one track, I get to drive many cars. I haven't driven the 370z on the track yet, but I have mine many many times. When I drove the 370z NISMO I can tell right away how good of handling the car is without needing to take it to the track or for a extended test drive as I have experience on what to look for. The 350Z NISMO (at least) handles better than the 370z NISMO. I can't comment on the regular 350z vs 370z, but I do know the 370z is much softer than the 350z was and that's hurting it.

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy

First off let me say I owned a 2007 350Z for 2 years and my 370Z for about 4 months now...so I think my rebuff of your "observations" holds more weight than your brief encounter.

Tell your son his "cycle helmets" are to prevent the blue-tinted glass from reflecting the light which can prevent the dials from being read during the day. And just to let you know even my 350Z had the 'cycle helmet' guages. If yours didn't then you must of just bought the base package.

That's pure

. Having had both the 350Z looked and handled like an idea...but the 370Z looks like the idea came true but fully refined in looks and handling. I have had the 370Z at about a dozen shows so far and it has received more compliments than my 350Z ever did doing 2 years of shows.

I have driven the 370Z into clover leafs at 70 MPH and held the curves without drift or roll. So again you must have bought just the base model 350Z as teh 370 Z Touring + Sport blows away the 350Z in regards to stability and handling.

I'm sorry but I would agree with you if you were even the slightest bit correct in your assessment but I'm sorry, your assessment just wasn't quite good enough....

Forrest · 09-03-2009, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

I can't comment on the regular 350z vs 370z, but I do know the 370z is much softer than the 350z was and that's hurting it.

i can comment the 370z is "softer" than the 350z. I pesonaly dont like it but its not a deal breaker for me. I still dont understand how the 370z has less body roll yet is "softer" but i feel it is.

370Zsteve · 10-06-2009, 05:02 PM

No way any 350 handles better than a 370. No way, no how. Different setup, you have more experience in the 350, you admit you've never even tracked the 370. With a few miles of 370 on the track, you'd have a completely different opinion.

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

As I track my car all the time and an Instructor at one track, I get to drive many cars. I haven't driven the 370z on the track yet, but I have mine many many times. When I drove the 370z NISMO I can tell right away how good of handling the car is without needing to take it to the track or for a extended test drive as I have experience on what to look for. The 350Z NISMO (at least) handles better than the 370z NISMO. I can't comment on the regular 350z vs 370z, but I do know the 370z is much softer than the 350z was and that's hurting it.

NIZMOZ · 10-06-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

No way any 350 handles better than a 370. No way, no how. Different setup, you have more experience in the 350, you admit you've never even tracked the 370. With a few miles of 370 on the track, you'd have a completely different opinion.

Steve Millen drove both the 350Z NISMO and a 370Z NISMO this past week at ZCON. He himself said the 350Z NISMO was a better track car (as in being more hard core) vs the 370z that isn't all that into the suspension, etc like the 350z was.

And Steve Millen is a professional race car driver. Enough said.

xfrgtr · 10-07-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

No way any 350 handles better than a 370. No way, no how. Different setup, you have more experience in the 350, you admit you've never even tracked the 370. With a few miles of 370 on the track, you'd have a completely different opinion.

Totally agree

And big update at the Tsukuba track fastest lap time for the 370z nismo 1:06.643.faster than the 350z nismo and the stock 370z.
Tsukuba lap records - FastestLaps.com

NIZMOZ · 10-07-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xfrgtr

Totally agree

And big update at the Tsukuba track fastest lap time for the 370z nismo 1:06.643.faster than the 350z nismo and the stock 370z.
Tsukuba lap records - FastestLaps.com

For that much more HP, that isn't all that much of a difference. The handling of the 350Z NISMO obviously is better, but the power is what helped keep the 370z ahead by a hair.

59. Nissan Nismo 370Z 1:06.643 112 ´09 355 / 1500 Best Motoring
60. Nissan Nismo 350Z 1:06.663 112 ´08 313 / 1610 best motoring
61. Nissan 370Z 1:06.669 112 ´09 337 / 1525 Best Motoring

mrmixitup · 09-01-2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs

The handling IS CR@P - TOTAL CR@P. At low speeds the 370z feels just like my 2006 350z - no different at all - fairly comfortable, but you can feel all the bumps in the road. I can live with this because of my car's high speed handling. At high speeds (and this is where it matters to me), I had no confidence in the 370z - it floated, it lurched, it rolled, it made me feel that I had to slow down, which I did (even though I was on my private road

). At 120+mph my 350z hugs the road, it just sits there and it goes exactly where I tell it to go - even at 100+mph this 370z felt dangerous (please don't tell me to check the tyre pressures, they were ok). I sooo wanted to like the 370z, but the high speed handling (or lack of it) killed it for me.

Buy a Cayman S. You won't regret it.

nogoodname · 09-01-2009, 11:35 PM

so this high speed problem of 120+mph will stop you from buying completely....

plan to drive at those speeds everyday???

frost · 09-01-2009, 11:37 PM

Between my 350 and my 370, I can feel a difference, but I have chocked it up to the fact my 70 has all the handling control BS and the 50 is a base, not even traction control.

SiXK · 09-02-2009, 06:50 AM

Interesting post Chubbs, thanks for sharing your experience. Having owned a 05 350Z for 4 years and a 370Z for 7 months I have to say my opinion is quite different. I like the suspension in the 370Z, but its a subjective thing. It is my opinion that the 370Z blows my 05 350Z out of the water in terms of performance, looks and interior quality. I will admit that handling above 120MPH wasn't a huge factor for me, but it was interesting to hear your take on it. Hope you find a car you are happy with or just keep the 350Z, its a great car. To each his own, we all have our favorite Z's, mine is the 300ZXTT with the 370Z a close second.

zZSportZz · 09-02-2009, 07:48 AM

zomg!! My Z handles better than the space shuttle!!! True story!!

Might as well lock this thread now. It isn't going to end well in my humble opinion.

chris410 · 09-02-2009, 09:56 AM

I enjoyed the honesty however, I can tell that you have little to no track/driving school experience based on some of the comments concerning handling and how it felt at speeds over 100mph. If you do, good and as you gain experience you'll look back and laugh at your own comments.

However, you were honest so I'll tip my hat to that! The important thing is that you end up with whatever car makes you happy because in the end that's all that really counts.

09-02-2009, 06:50 AM	#13 (permalink)
SiXK Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orlando Posts: 352 Drives: 09 370Z / 91 300ZXTT Rep Power: 186	Interesting post Chubbs, thanks for sharing your experience. Having owned a 05 350Z for 4 years and a 370Z for 7 months I have to say my opinion is quite different. I like the suspension in the 370Z, but its a subjective thing. It is my opinion that the 370Z blows my 05 350Z out of the water in terms of performance, looks and interior quality. I will admit that handling above 120MPH wasn't a huge factor for me, but it was interesting to hear your take on it. Hope you find a car you are happy with or just keep the 350Z, its a great car. To each his own, we all have our favorite Z's, mine is the 300ZXTT with the 370Z a close second. __________________ Magnetic Black 2009 370Z / Pearl Yellow 1991 300ZXTT

09-02-2009, 07:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
zZSportZz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,095 Drives: 370z Blk on Blk 6MT Rep Power: 19	zomg!! My Z handles better than the space shuttle!!! True story!! Might as well lock this thread now. It isn't going to end well in my humble opinion. __________________ --Rick

09-02-2009, 09:56 AM	#15 (permalink)
chris410 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 345 Drives: 10' GT500 Rep Power: 17	I enjoyed the honesty however, I can tell that you have little to no track/driving school experience based on some of the comments concerning handling and how it felt at speeds over 100mph. If you do, good and as you gain experience you'll look back and laugh at your own comments. However, you were honest so I'll tip my hat to that! The important thing is that you end up with whatever car makes you happy because in the end that's all that really counts. __________________ Chris Current: 2014 WRX Stage I + SPT / 2013 Hayabusa 202HP Former:09 370Z 7-AT PW/Ark Type 2 exhaust/Evo R lip/TSW Nurburgring carbon

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09-01-2009, 09:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 654	Chubbs, Sway bars make a world of difference at high speed in this car. It feels far more planted at confident taking corners at 90+ mph thanks to the body roll being all but eliminated. If you could drive someones car that has sway bars installed I think you would be impressed. It is a very cheap fix.

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frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	Chubbs, you crazy

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nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1765	so this high speed problem of 120+mph will stop you from buying completely.... plan to drive at those speeds everyday???

09-01-2009, 11:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	Between my 350 and my 370, I can feel a difference, but I have chocked it up to the fact my 70 has all the handling control BS and the 50 is a base, not even traction control.