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Originally Posted by DLSTR He would lose in court.Did you get his badge number and talk to the District Attorney?? Id like to see what is codified in your state

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Old 02-19-2014, 10:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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He would lose in court.Did you get his badge number and talk to the District Attorney?? Id like to see what is codified in your state about lane changing. No judge would let a ticket stand if you are not speeding and simply change lanes. If thats all the officer has he has NO CASE. He basically forced you to avoid him at speed. He never early on, showed he was law enforcement. Harrassment plain and simple. I bet you will find him on the same road again. Id get his badge and file a complaint. I wouldnt at all be surprised he has other complaints. People are creatures of habit. He is no different. Law enforcement gets my full respect but if this is true he needs some serious retraining. NO excuse.

Doesn't matter if he would lose or win in court. Cops aren't concerned with the end result. They just have to meet their quotas. I once received a ticket for going 63 on a 60. Got dismissed immediately in court.


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Doesn't matter if he would lose or win in court. Cops aren't concerned with the end result. They just have to meet their quotas. I once received a ticket for going 63 on a 60. Got dismissed immediately in court.


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Common misconception. Not for nothing, but quotas are illegal. Besides, whether one citation or a hundred are issued in a month, the paycheck is still the same.
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Common misconception. Not for nothing, but quotas are illegal. Besides, whether one citation or a hundred are issued in a month, the paycheck is still the same.
It's illegal when they get caught, yes...

L.A. approves $6-million settlement over alleged traffic ticket quotas
L.A. approves $6-million settlement over alleged traffic ticket quotas - Los Angeles Times

Stossel: Alabama Cop Fired For Recording His Sgt. Ordering Ticket Quota "The Police State" 8/15/2013 - YouTube

But there are ways to keep people in line:
Cop Fired for Speaking Out Against Ticket and Arrest Quotas
Cop Fired for Speaking Out Against Ticket and Arrest Quotas - Reason.com

Do police have quotas

New York Post reported Monday that two city police sergeants have testified they were ordered to meet a quota.
NYC cops reportedly confirm ticket quotas - US news | NBC News


They can call them "performance standards" or whatever, and tie them to overtime and promotions, so they can effect pay and skirt the legality issues.


ABC15 Exclusive Investigation: Do DPS officers have to meet traffic ticket and arrest quotas? - Story

We asked DPS about what appears to be quotas set out in the memo.

Arizona DPS Spokesperson Officer Tim Case insists they are not quotas.

"We don't have quotas here," Case said.

Officer Case calls the requirements performance standards and says that it's just a way the department has to make sure officers are doing their jobs.

http://www.copssoundoff.com/is-there...vity-standards


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It's illegal when they get caught, yes...

L.A. approves $6-million settlement over alleged traffic ticket quotas
L.A. approves $6-million settlement over alleged traffic ticket quotas - Los Angeles Times

Stossel: Alabama Cop Fired For Recording His Sgt. Ordering Ticket Quota "The Police State" 8/15/2013 - YouTube

But there are ways to keep people in line:
Cop Fired for Speaking Out Against Ticket and Arrest Quotas
Cop Fired for Speaking Out Against Ticket and Arrest Quotas - Reason.com

Do police have quotas

New York Post reported Monday that two city police sergeants have testified they were ordered to meet a quota.
NYC cops reportedly confirm ticket quotas - US news | NBC News


They can call them "performance standards" or whatever, and tie them to overtime and promotions, so they can effect pay and skirt the legality issues.


ABC15 Exclusive Investigation: Do DPS officers have to meet traffic ticket and arrest quotas? - Story

We asked DPS about what appears to be quotas set out in the memo.

Arizona DPS Spokesperson Officer Tim Case insists they are not quotas.

"We don't have quotas here," Case said.

Officer Case calls the requirements performance standards and says that it's just a way the department has to make sure officers are doing their jobs.

Is there a difference between Quotas and "Productivity Standards?"


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It does not matter how many times you change lanes. its all in the matter of how you change lanes. I.E. speed, cutting off other vehicles, useing your blinker. I was an *** and was looking for a reason to pull you over. D**** like that give me and other fellow good cops a bad name...
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It does not matter how many times you change lanes. its all in the matter of how you change lanes. I.E. speed, cutting off other vehicles, useing your blinker. I was an *** and was looking for a reason to pull you over. D**** like that give me and other fellow good cops a bad name...
Since there is a huge amount of people that have some king of warrant on them LE will pull over a car when there is a "violation" to check for warrants and then let you go when you're cleared with a warning...kinda like fishing. Every day I become more and more libertarian and would find it difficult to do anything but drive around in circles if I went to the road. Legalized extortion isn't something I can do for a living and go home at night and sleep. Don't get me wrong...there is a need for LE but taking food off of their tables for not having a seat belt on is theft and is a violation of your oath. My
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It does not matter how many times you change lanes. its all in the matter of how you change lanes. I.E. speed, cutting off other vehicles, useing your blinker. I was an *** and was looking for a reason to pull you over. D**** like that give me and other fellow good cops a bad name...
If you change lanes often, regardless of how you change them, it's construed as "aggressive driving".

I got pulled over for it a long time ago in my SRT. Wasn't speeding, wasn't whipping into the next lane, just kind of going through traffic that was going slower than the posted limit.


MCSO said that it's considered aggressive driving and he could cite me for it, but he was on his way home (have gotten the "on the way home" let-off several times ) and to tone it down.
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Common misconception. Not for nothing, but quotas are illegal. Besides, whether one citation or a hundred are issued in a month, the paycheck is still the same.
They may be illegal but are an unwritten rule. My friend went to the road and eventually got on a motorcycle. He told me he has to write 50 tickets a week or they will pull him off the bike. It's about revenue folks, there are quotas...believe it. Maybe not every department but most big cities. The economy sucks and tax revenue is down, gotta pay the bills somehow.
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