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Originally Posted by Stoney Already have a borla catback, I'm under aged, my mom restricts me on things I can do , she said I can do headers and high

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Old 01-25-2014, 10:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Already have a borla catback, I'm under aged, my mom restricts me on things I can do , she said I can do headers and high flow cats as long as my setup is legal, and she won't let me do weight restriction things.
Now it's starting to all make sense...
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Yep if I could do whatever I wanted I would get ppe headers
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Yep if I could do whatever I wanted I would get ppe headers

Then why not wait until you're older and can make your own decisions rather then buying POS headers that are worse than stock because it's all you're allowed to do?
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Then why not wait until you're older and can make your own decisions rather then buying POS headers that are worse than stock because it's all you're allowed to do?
Okay I'll explain. I graduate in late May, I wanted to have all my performance parts ready to go before then, because I'm going to drive 8 hours to texas and have my car tuned at JOTECH, so then I will be done with my performance, another issue is I believe the mechanic I want to install my headers, I'm not sure if he will because he won't do anything illegal, (such as removing cats). And if he doesn't, odds are I'm going to pay 560 for headers and 560 for cats or something, (prices aren't the same), and around 360-480$ for install. (60$ per hour),,,(6-8hours)
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Okay I'll explain. I graduate in late May, I wanted to have all my performance parts ready to go before then, because I'm going to drive 8 hours to texas and have my car tuned at JOTECH, so then I will be done with my performance, another issue is I believe the mechanic I want to install my headers, I'm not sure if he will because he won't do anything illegal, (such as removing cats). And if he doesn't, odds are I'm going to pay 560 for headers and 560 for cats or something, (prices aren't the same), and around 360-480$ for install. (60$ per hour),,,(6-8hours)
Btw, once your mechanic starts, he ain't gonna charge you $360-480. He's going to charge you $700-800...

The shadiest of mechanics (one who is illegally in the US) quoted me $400, and a full day's labor.
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The shadiest of mechanics (one who is illegally in the US) quoted me $400, and a full day's labor.

Once he starts wrestling with getting the stock headers and cats out, that quoted price will double. The only way I could ever see shorty headers being worth it is if I was willing to DIY the job.
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Once he starts wrestling with getting the stock headers and cats out, that quoted price will double. The only way I could ever see shorty headers being worth it is if I was willing to DIY the job.
Exactly what I mean. There isn't the room to do it easily. Hell, Baker Tuning in Houston drops the motor because it's easier, LOL!
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Btw, once your mechanic starts, he ain't gonna charge you $360-480. He's going to charge you $700-800...
THIS. Honestly Stoney, it's your money or your parents money (I really don't know whose or care to know) we are just trying to help you out as much as possible. If you're hell bent on the stillen/berk setup, go for it. Just prepare yourself for the terrible money-power ratio.
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Then why not wait until you're older and can make your own decisions rather then buying POS headers that are worse than stock because it's all you're allowed to do?
I also really like louder noises from the exhaust, which I know you said HFCs will have plenty of exhaust note, but will LTH have the same effect?
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I also really like louder noises from the exhaust, which I know you said HFCs will have plenty of exhaust note, but will LTH have the same effect?
So you want a louder exhaust noise? I'm surprised ater six pages noone has mentioned the most cost effective mod to achieve this - the ingenious washer trick!!!! Do a search for the how to.
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So you want a louder exhaust noise? I'm surprised ater six pages noone has mentioned the most cost effective mod to achieve this - the ingenious washer trick!!!! Do a search for the how to.
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He's got to be ******* with you. Don't do the "washer mod". It usually gets suggested as a joke. There are a few people who actually run it, but I secretly think their parents were related.
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Yep if I could do whatever I wanted I would get ppe headers

Is your mom aware that spending your money on the Stillen headers are a waste of money? If shorty headers are what you are looking for wait a little more time and buy the Z1's. You had mentioned that it worries you having to add 350Z HFC's however many have done it. Check out the massively long thread on it.

I think it's worse to spend money on crappy headers that may be less in price but provide very little performance gains then spending your money on headers that may be a little more expensive but at least will make a difference on your car and would totally be worth the installation costs as well. I would try telling that to your mom.

Take your time and do it right. Don't throw your money away which would be buying the crappy headers.


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Is your mom aware that spending your money on the Stillen headers are a waste of money? If shorty headers are what you are looking for wait a little more time and buy the Z1's. You had mentioned that it worries you having to add 350Z HFC's however many have done it. Check out the massively long thread on it.

I think it's worse to spend money on crappy headers that may be less in price but provide very little performance gains then spending your money on headers that may be a little more expensive but at least will make a difference on your car and would totally be worth the installation costs as well. I would try telling that to your mom.

Take your time and do it right. Don't throw your money away which would be buying the crappy headers.


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Okay thanks, but if I can't do ppe LTH I'll look into the z1 headers with 350z HFCs? Right? And I just give them a call and they will help me out with what I want to do? Or how do I go about that?
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Okay thanks, but if I can't do ppe LTH I'll look into the z1 headers with 350z HFCs? Right? And I just give them a call and they will help me out with what I want to do? Or how do I go about that?
Yep! Go to the Z1 Motorsports website and you can see more about them there. Also check out the thread on here about the Z1 headers. You can call them up and ask any additional questions you may have. Also as someone had mentioned that if you wanted the Berk HFC's you could get the Z1 headers and the 350Z Berk HFC's.

The Z1 headers cost is $895 and from Berks website their HFC's are $499. However the Z1 cats are $358.
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