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I would only get something that will prevent dings and dents from idiots who open their doors without looking. Can you tell I just got a door ding? I wouldn't

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Old 08-27-2009, 04:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I would only get something that will prevent dings and dents from idiots who open their doors without looking. Can you tell I just got a door ding? I wouldn't be made if it was a rock from the road...but a door ding? Come on...
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I work at a dealership as a business officer selling that "extra stuff" and its not all crap. I Diamond Kote my Nissan (polymer based) and love it. I also sell those rust protectors. The good ones come with sacraficial anodes made of Zinc. Those zinc strips will rust faster than any other metal on the car. The key to buying those products is to barter on the price. There is alot of markup. Should be able to buy Paint & Fabric & Rust protection for about $499. Most places will try to start at $1299.
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I work at a dealership as a business officer selling that "extra stuff" and its not all crap. I Diamond Kote my Nissan (polymer based) and love it. I also sell those rust protectors. The good ones come with sacraficial anodes made of Zinc. Those zinc strips will rust faster than any other metal on the car. The key to buying those products is to barter on the price. There is alot of markup. Should be able to buy Paint & Fabric & Rust protection for about $499. Most places will try to start at $1299.
Fabric protection is 1-2 cans of ScotchGuard... any dealer/salesman who tells you differently is flat out lying to make a sale. Cost? $10-$20

The "Diamond Kote" polymer is no different than the Zaino Brothers polymer I mentioned previously. Cost? <$75 for a complete kit that will last you several years if used appropriately.

Not the best ones... the only rust preventers that work are the sacrificial anodes (zinc is one option). Want to know what another sacrificial anode material is? Aluminum! If you have anything on your car that's aluminum, make sure it doesn't have an anodized coating between it and the car body and you have an automatic sacrificial rod.
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I recommend everyone to get polymer sealant on a regular basis, and I also recommend a clear bra. These are the first things I do when I get a new good looking car. Mine were all done profesionally and they work great. I don't have to worry about raining, the sealant does not allow the rain to create spots. In fact rain rinses my car and does not create spots. Clear bra has saved my bumpers too many times to count.
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I work at a dealership as a business officer selling that "extra stuff" and its not all crap. I Diamond Kote my Nissan (polymer based) and love it. I also sell those rust protectors. The good ones come with sacraficial anodes made of Zinc. Those zinc strips will rust faster than any other metal on the car. The key to buying those products is to barter on the price. There is alot of markup. Should be able to buy Paint & Fabric & Rust protection for about $499. Most places will try to start at $1299.
Dealerships are in business to make money some how! so when your going to one you should have a good idea what you want and what your going to pay. all the accessory stuff is there to say yes or no to if your committed then no to what they offer is all you need to remember..
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Nothing is ever "Needed"...and the products do work...but if you're like most of us, you won't have the car long enough to notice the difference!
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i should get it, i plan to keep the G til it runs no more
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That is a total BS. I have tons of colleagues and friends in Puerto Rico, which is kind of the same weather, ecological, flora and fauna environment and nothing to be worried about. Just give love and care to your baby and that's totally it.
AND!!!! I think that everybody in this world will deal with bird poopilipoop.
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Just take care of your car as you normally would do.

Puerto Rico environment is kind of the same as Hawaii, tropical weather. and if you complain about residues of volcanic dust, Puerto Rico is receiving sporadic volcanic dust from the Montserrat Island, and large quantities of dust coming from Sahara Desert.

Documented Satellite Maps of Sahara Dust hitting the Caribbean, and so Puerto Rico.






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IN THIS CASE, on the picture shown below........... Good Luck...
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^^ let's hope I'll never deal with that!!
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LOL - funny because this is all marketing....

First off spend $20 instead and get Meguire's NXT or Turtle Wax ICE synthetic wax. Zaino is great but IMHO it's not good value for your money - it washes off too. Unless you are detailing bi weekly and if your car isn't a garage queen use a synthetic wax. It last longer and gives excellent protection. Teflon coating is all but a gimic. It will wash off just as quickly as any other wax. It doesn't penetrate your clear coat - it sticks to the surface and you know how sticky teflon is.... all for $400 - rip off.

Secondly rusting is a chemical reaction which does include the transfer of electrons. The zinc strips are often used on ships to prevent corosion of other metal parts on the ship as the zinc has a higher electrical potential and will corrode instead of the ship. Its know as a sacrificial anode. Works on ships but I haven't heard of anyone doing it on a vehicle. Not sure if the battery one is going to do the trick....
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LOL - funny because this is all marketing....

First off spend $20 instead and get Meguire's NXT or Turtle Wax ICE synthetic wax. Zaino is great but IMHO it's not good value for your money - it washes off too. Unless you are detailing bi weekly and if your car isn't a garage queen use a synthetic wax. It last longer and gives excellent protection. Teflon coating is all but a gimic. It will wash off just as quickly as any other wax. It doesn't penetrate your clear coat - it sticks to the surface and you know how sticky teflon is.... all for $400 - rip off.

Secondly rusting is a chemical reaction which does include the transfer of electrons. The zinc strips are often used on ships to prevent corosion of other metal parts on the ship as the zinc has a higher electrical potential and will corrode instead of the ship. Its know as a sacrificial anode. Works on ships but I haven't heard of anyone doing it on a vehicle. Not sure if the battery one is going to do the trick....
every thing i read and i could be wrong but Meguire's NXT and Turtle Wax ICE wash off in a week and probably melt off my black car first day in the sun.

As for zaino, the stuff lasts quite a while. I allways use Z6 spray after a wash, and my stuffs marble smooth for months. It also doesnt melt off my black car.

so for value over money i think your arguement is flawed. 3 months vs 1 week you figure out which one is more work.
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every thing i read and i could be wrong but Meguire's NXT and Turtle Wax ICE wash off in a week and probably melt off my black car first day in the sun.

As for zaino, the stuff lasts quite a while. I allways use Z6 spray after a wash, and my stuffs marble smooth for months. It also doesnt melt off my black car.

so for value over money i think your arguement is flawed. 3 months vs 1 week you figure out which one is more work.
You use just Z6? I washed my car the other day, and I'm nervous about putting anything on it, because it's NOT Zaino...the detailers I used don't like Zaino, so it's got whatever stuff they used (I think Griot's?)

Last thing I want is for it to puddle up / get spotty....I'll probably strip the wax off this fall, and start building layers up over the winter, when I won't be driving it and can take my time.
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You use just Z6? I washed my car the other day, and I'm nervous about putting anything on it, because it's NOT Zaino...the detailers I used don't like Zaino, so it's got whatever stuff they used (I think Griot's?)

Last thing I want is for it to puddle up / get spotty....I'll probably strip the wax off this fall, and start building layers up over the winter, when I won't be driving it and can take my time.
no, i put on a few layers of z2 then maintain it with z6. I have not put on z2 in maybe 2 months.
Right now i wash once a week, after i wash i use z6 and my car is still marble smooth.

Since school and work take up all my time i have not been able to keep up with a once a month z2 session like i wanted to.

My point was zaino doesnt wash off any where NEAR as fast as the Meguire's NXT and Turtle Wax ICE synthetic wax, based on my readings and reviews of it. I was going to switch becuase they seemed easyier accessable but after reading about them its a waste of time.
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no, i put on a few layers of z2 then maintain it with z6. I have not put on z2 in maybe 2 months.
Right now i wash once a week, after i wash i use z6 and my car is still marble smooth.

Since school and work take up all my time i have not been able to keep up with a once a month z2 session like i wanted to.

My point was zaino doesnt wash off any where NEAR as fast as the Meguire's NXT and Turtle Wax ICE synthetic wax, based on my readings and reviews of it. I was going to switch becuase they seemed easyier accessable but after reading about them its a waste of time.
I'm new to Zaino and I've used it as directed for the past two months. Great results and it's not that expensive. I couldn't believe it only took an ounce of Z2 to do my Z. Take a look at my pics in 'My Album' http://www.the370z.com/members/idzrv...otia-370z.html.
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The dealer is still trying to sell me this Teflon treatment (something 5 system) and a rust prevention device that hooks up to your battery. They said these are a MUST, especially in Hawaii (saltwater and extreme bird poop). Anyone have experience with either products?
No on the teflon - my dealer tried the same thing - called Simoniz here. Wanted $600 (or was it $500) - when I said no, they dropped the price another $100...

They basically wax the car - but no claybar, no actual fine-abrasive polishing step - they just slap on some polymer wax-polish that makes it impossible to get your car touched up without stripping the paint off first because it bonds to the paint.

I'd rather pay a detailer to claybar, polish, and apply polymer wax and make the car look like a black, car-shaped mirror, then maintain it myself, and still come out ahead.
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