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Originally Posted by Graybullet Are either of these wax Zaino/NXT good for a vehicle parked outside 100% of the time or would I need something stronger to protect the paint?

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Old 08-27-2009, 05:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Are either of these wax Zaino/NXT good for a vehicle parked outside 100% of the time or would I need something stronger to protect the paint?
I use Zaino on my 370Z and it is always parked outside - works great!
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Old 08-27-2009, 06:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
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wax it yourself.save those hard earned bucks for proformance upgrades!!
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I work at a dealership as a business officer selling that "extra stuff" and its not all crap. I Diamond Kote my Nissan (polymer based) and love it. I also sell those rust protectors. The good ones come with sacraficial anodes made of Zinc. Those zinc strips will rust faster than any other metal on the car. The key to buying those products is to barter on the price. There is alot of markup. Should be able to buy Paint & Fabric & Rust protection for about $499. Most places will try to start at $1299.
Fabric protection is 1-2 cans of ScotchGuard... any dealer/salesman who tells you differently is flat out lying to make a sale. Cost? $10-$20

The "Diamond Kote" polymer is no different than the Zaino Brothers polymer I mentioned previously. Cost? <$75 for a complete kit that will last you several years if used appropriately.

Not the best ones... the only rust preventers that work are the sacrificial anodes (zinc is one option). Want to know what another sacrificial anode material is? Aluminum! If you have anything on your car that's aluminum, make sure it doesn't have an anodized coating between it and the car body and you have an automatic sacrificial rod.
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I recommend everyone to get polymer sealant on a regular basis, and I also recommend a clear bra. These are the first things I do when I get a new good looking car. Mine were all done profesionally and they work great. I don't have to worry about raining, the sealant does not allow the rain to create spots. In fact rain rinses my car and does not create spots. Clear bra has saved my bumpers too many times to count.
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Nothing is ever "Needed"...and the products do work...but if you're like most of us, you won't have the car long enough to notice the difference!
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i should get it, i plan to keep the G til it runs no more
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That is a total BS. I have tons of colleagues and friends in Puerto Rico, which is kind of the same weather, ecological, flora and fauna environment and nothing to be worried about. Just give love and care to your baby and that's totally it.
AND!!!! I think that everybody in this world will deal with bird poopilipoop.
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Just take care of your car as you normally would do.

Puerto Rico environment is kind of the same as Hawaii, tropical weather. and if you complain about residues of volcanic dust, Puerto Rico is receiving sporadic volcanic dust from the Montserrat Island, and large quantities of dust coming from Sahara Desert.

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^^ let's hope I'll never deal with that!!
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LOL - funny because this is all marketing....

First off spend $20 instead and get Meguire's NXT or Turtle Wax ICE synthetic wax. Zaino is great but IMHO it's not good value for your money - it washes off too. Unless you are detailing bi weekly and if your car isn't a garage queen use a synthetic wax. It last longer and gives excellent protection. Teflon coating is all but a gimic. It will wash off just as quickly as any other wax. It doesn't penetrate your clear coat - it sticks to the surface and you know how sticky teflon is.... all for $400 - rip off.

Secondly rusting is a chemical reaction which does include the transfer of electrons. The zinc strips are often used on ships to prevent corosion of other metal parts on the ship as the zinc has a higher electrical potential and will corrode instead of the ship. Its know as a sacrificial anode. Works on ships but I haven't heard of anyone doing it on a vehicle. Not sure if the battery one is going to do the trick....
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The dealer is still trying to sell me this Teflon treatment (something 5 system) and a rust prevention device that hooks up to your battery. They said these are a MUST, especially in Hawaii (saltwater and extreme bird poop). Anyone have experience with either products?
No on the teflon - my dealer tried the same thing - called Simoniz here. Wanted $600 (or was it $500) - when I said no, they dropped the price another $100...

They basically wax the car - but no claybar, no actual fine-abrasive polishing step - they just slap on some polymer wax-polish that makes it impossible to get your car touched up without stripping the paint off first because it bonds to the paint.

I'd rather pay a detailer to claybar, polish, and apply polymer wax and make the car look like a black, car-shaped mirror, then maintain it myself, and still come out ahead.
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No on the teflon - my dealer tried the same thing - called Simoniz here. Wanted $600 (or was it $500) - when I said no, they dropped the price another $100...

They basically wax the car - but no claybar, no actual fine-abrasive polishing step - they just slap on some polymer wax-polish that makes it impossible to get your car touched up without stripping the paint off first because it bonds to the paint.

I'd rather pay a detailer to claybar, polish, and apply polymer wax and make the car look like a black, car-shaped mirror, then maintain it myself, and still come out ahead.
I think that was it...Simoniz 5 system. They were going to charge me 850$$ and the rust box thingy was the same price....oh yeah and a nissan extended warranty as well (75K/6 yrs)for like $2k! They would have made back all the earnings from selling the car to me for invoice!
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I think that was it...Simoniz 5 system. They were going to charge me 850$$ and the rust box thingy was the same price....oh yeah and a nissan extended warranty as well (75K/6 yrs)for like $2k! They would have made back all the earnings from selling the car to me for invoice!
I did buy the warranty - $1200 for 6yr/75K is what I haggled. They kept lowering the warranty cost, in the hopes I'd get the Simoniz. Funny thing is that I signed all the papers with it on there originally - then called them the next day and said nope. Got the pricing situated, and resigned papers - then they called me and said they got a lower APR from another bank. Signed papers a 3rd time

I got the warranty simply because I'm paying for the car for 6 years, and I don't want to be stuck paying for a car with a thrown rod...should something like that happen.


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I stoppped by a Nissan place in Atlanta and they added 1995.00 to the sticker for paint and fabric protection !!! Salesman told me they sell Z cars for full sticker plus the 1995.00 !! I said SEE YA !!!!!!!!
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I stoppped by a Nissan place in Atlanta and they added 1995.00 to the sticker for paint and fabric protection !!! Salesman told me they sell Z cars for full sticker plus the 1995.00 !! I said SEE YA !!!!!!!!
I'd have said "not to me" - then go to the next dealership.

I've thought about driving my Z to the first Nissan dealership I went to...but I don't want to waste the gas to do so.
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oh yah dealers are the most honest peoples out there. you should blindly do as they tell you. go for it.

i hope you can read some sarcasm in there
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