Nissan execs diss FRS/BRZ

damian_mb · 10-29-2013, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The FRS/BRZ is either a slow car that's fun to drive fast, or an entry-level rwd for kids graduating from their Tcs. It's a rwd civic Si, not a midlife crisis car. I like them, I'm just not caught up in the hype. My GF is buying one early next year. It's the perfect "starter sports car".

My EXACT thoughts! Before I commited to my WRX, I test drove the BRZ. It was like getting back into my 4 door 2007 Si again, but without the "vtec" cross over, it's actually a 2 seater, RWD, handles a lot better, and is as torqueless as the Si.

Toyobaru

Chuck33079 · 10-29-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by damian_mb

My EXACT thoughts! Before I commited to my WRX, I test drove the BRZ. It was like getting back into my 4 door 2007 Si again, but without the "vtec" cross over, it's actually a 2 seater, RWD, handles a lot better, and is as torqueless as the Si.

Toyobaru

I look forward to buying my GF's after a few years when she wants more power. It's fun to drive and gets good gas mileage. It'll be a fantastic little daily driver. I'll happily buy one for $15k.

When you can get a thrashed one for $10k it'll be a fantastic track car.

kenchan · 10-29-2013, 09:41 AM

the problem with brz is that it looks like a damn tomica car. needs wheels and lowering at minimum to make it look like an enthusast car.

someone in the market for a brz/frs probably either has a lot of money to spend, or no money to spend.

Chuck33079 · 10-29-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

the problem with brz is that it looks like a damn tomica car. needs wheels and lowering at minimum to make it look like an enthusast car.

someone in the market for a brz/frs probably either has a lot of money to spend, or no money to spend.

Probably more the latter than the former.

And the stock wheels are horrendous.

ZeeBabar · 10-29-2013, 09:45 AM

Consumer Reports survey found the BRZ/FRS worse than average in reliability.

I bought my 370Z to keep being the chic magnet I was when I had hair and a beat up Honda!!! Bald at 65, hoping a Z would make up for it!!!!!

didymus · 10-29-2013, 10:18 AM

Really don't see the FRS as a midlife crisis type car.. but the graph above does show a good amount of older drivers.. I suspect less than the 370z though

kenchan · 10-29-2013, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeeBabar

Consumer Reports survey found the BRZ/FRS worse than average in reliability.

I bought my 370Z to keep being the chic magnet I was when I had hair and a beat up Honda!!! Bald at 65, hoping a Z would make up for it!!!!!

you and your CR.

mults · 10-29-2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Be hilarious if they pulled out a AWD altima coupe.

Fixed...

wackjum · 10-29-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

this is very true i thinks. a member from another forum found these stats and it was pretty interesting.

out of this bunch our 370z is the hardest car to keep for a dad with family cause he would need at least
another car to do daily tasks...given he is a responsible dad.

at least for me, it's not easy owning a Z and having 3 other cars to take care... while raising 2 kids. not enough time.

I wonder how much these stats are skewed by parents buying these cars for their kids. Especially the Mustang and Camaro. A survey of registrations wouldn't reveal who is actually driving these cars.

Chuck33079 · 10-29-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wackjum

I wonder how much these stats are skewed by parents buying these cars for their kids. Especially the Mustang and Camaro. A survey of registrations wouldn't reveal who is actually driving these cars.

That's a really good point.

Mt Tam I am · 10-29-2013, 10:51 AM

I see the BRZ as a Miata like car and not just for young folks. The majority of them, that I have seen have been in older hands not all mid life.

Mt Tam I am · 10-29-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

this is very true i thinks. a member from another forum found these stats and it was pretty interesting.

out of this bunch our 370z is the hardest car to keep for a dad with family cause he would need at least
another car to do daily tasks...given he is a responsible dad.

at least for me, it's not easy owning a Z and having 3 other cars to take care... while raising 2 kids. not enough time.

RE: demographics:
Does this seem correct?

Our own site poll does not resemble a median age of 51 for the Z.

This implies 55% are baby boomers or older?

I'm not convinced.

Chuck33079 · 10-29-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

RE: demographics:
Does this seem correct?

Our own site poll does not resemble a median age of 51 for the Z.

This implies 55% are baby boomers or older?

I'm not convinced.

It's probably fairly accurate. Forums tend to skew toward the younger people.

StangerGT · 10-29-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Nissan exec Andy Palmer derides Toyobaru coupes as 'midlife crisis' cars - Autoblog

This is a hysterical article....

<-- sums up the exec, his remarks, and this post...

kenchan · 10-29-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wackjum

I wonder how much these stats are skewed by parents buying these cars for their kids. Especially the Mustang and Camaro. A survey of registrations wouldn't reveal who is actually driving these cars.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

That's a really good point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

RE: demographics:
Does this seem correct?

Our own site poll does not resemble a median age of 51 for the Z.

This implies 55% are baby boomers or older?

I'm not convinced.

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

It's probably fairly accurate. Forums tend to skew toward the younger people.

wat chuck said x2.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	the problem with brz is that it looks like a damn tomica car. needs wheels and lowering at minimum to make it look like an enthusast car. someone in the market for a brz/frs probably either has a lot of money to spend, or no money to spend.

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ZeeBabar Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Missouri Posts: 423 Drives: 2006 350z Rep Power: 0	Consumer Reports survey found the BRZ/FRS worse than average in reliability. I bought my 370Z to keep being the chic magnet I was when I had hair and a beat up Honda!!! Bald at 65, hoping a Z would make up for it!!!!!

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didymus Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence / Boston Posts: 564 Drives: 280 / 370Z Rep Power: 305	Really don't see the FRS as a midlife crisis type car.. but the graph above does show a good amount of older drivers.. I suspect less than the 370z though