370z vs ft86/fr-s/brz

MadChemist · 10-17-2013, 11:06 AM

I test drove the FRS prior to the 370z. The FRS handles well but has no power and the interior sucks. If price is an issue, just buy a used 370z for the same price as a new FRS plus you won't have to worry about the initial depreciation.

brucelidat · 10-17-2013, 11:08 AM

I agree with most other posters, the frs/brz is last unless you plan to boost it. Driving balance and all that is great, but slow is slow and it runs on like prius tires...

damian_mb · 10-17-2013, 12:20 PM

Small track = FRS/BRZ

Larger track = Z/S2K or another car

Tracked my Z at a small track and over powered cars means squat at a small track.

Amuse370z · 10-17-2013, 12:32 PM

I'm planning on getting an S2K as well.

I just don't know how to justify having 2 summer cars + I'm going to have to be a primary driver for insurance if I get another car.

Is the difference in driving feel worth the extra expense?

JungleZ · 10-17-2013, 12:34 PM

Nissan 370z is an overpriced niche car, don't be dumb like me and get into this car wait untill they release their brz fighter in 2015.

Firebase99 · 10-17-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

Nissan 370z is an overpriced niche car, don't be dumb like me and get into this car wait untill they release their brz fighter in 2015.

Everything is overpriced. The BRZ is just SO ridiculously overpriced its obnoxious.

Firebase99 · 10-17-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by damian_mb

Small track = FRS/BRZ

Larger track = Z/S2K or another car

Tracked my Z at a small track and over powered cars means squat at a small track.

Im pretty sure, failrly sure, very sure, that with equal drivers, same day, same track, the 370 will dust any FRS/BRZ in time attack-stock for stock. Im not a nut hugging Z fan to think its the end all of all cars. its not. Its **** in some areas. Im talking OTD price of BRZ is Z territory. Two different classes of performance. Much like a 370 against a c6. Failrly sure the Z gets its *** handed to it on any track at any...etc.

kenchan · 10-17-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Amuse370z

I'm planning on getting an S2K as well.

I just don't know how to justify having 2 summer cars + I'm going to have to be a primary driver for insurance if I get another car.

Is the difference in driving feel worth the extra expense?

i think so, especially if you have canyons in your area you can take to every weekend.

or just wait for wat honda churns out on their next gen S1500 coming out like 2016 or something.

ElVee · 10-17-2013, 01:50 PM

Just to add one thing: If you want daily driving fun, the s2k might be more fun since you can run it harder and still be fine on the street. You can't push the Z very hard and have a lot of fun with it with street-legal driving or having it bite you in the worst way possible.

Another way of saying it: You can probably drive the s2k at 7/ or 8/10ths far more often than you can the Z.

That said, I have a Z, but an s2k was and is a close second if I had to downgrade the budget. (For perspective, I also have a beater DD...)

ElVee · 10-17-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

Im pretty sure, failrly sure, very sure, that with equal drivers, same day, same track, the 370 will dust any FRS/BRZ in time attack-stock for stock. Im not a nut hugging Z fan to think its the end all of all cars. its not. Its **** in some areas. Im talking OTD price of BRZ is Z territory. Two different classes of performance. Much like a 370 against a c6. Failrly sure the Z gets its *** handed to it on any track at any...etc.

I'm sure you said this between the lines, but I'd agree with the one exception being a new or poor driver where the Z can get out from under him while the BRZ/FRS stock likely isn't going to be so easy to spin; basically just a lack of power keeping it safer.

martin82 · 10-17-2013, 01:56 PM

the frs/brz engine has an issue with injector seal and also blowing engine with high revs... I have a friend blew engine TWICE, something about a bad tune while shifting at high rpms...

Chuck33079 · 10-17-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

don't be dumb like me

Truer words have never been spoken.

Firebase99 · 10-17-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ElVee

I'm sure you said this between the lines, but I'd agree with the one exception being a new or poor driver where the Z can get out from under him while the BRZ/FRS stock likely isn't going to be so easy to spin; basically just a lack of power keeping it safer.

Ever drive one? Im not exaggerating that you easily step out at 20 to 25 mph. Theres a lot of preamble before she does but spinning that car is comically easy. Swap ends real quick.

on a side note, FRS is MUCH easier to drive than a Z. The Z has bit me a few times playing around. Then again I suck. That being said, doing what i did in the Z, the FRS would not bite me like that. For me its all about performance. What the car is capable of. right now the car is far more capable than myself. Couple weeks going to Sebring with a friend who has a modded Zo6 (thing is a beast, runs 2:20's).

dP3NGU1N · 10-17-2013, 02:04 PM

Just for future reference....

jaedub · 10-17-2013, 02:09 PM

My brother owns a s2k and I drive it all the time along with my 370z. With s2k, you can toss the car around and manhandle it with ease. It's quite forgiving. 370z has a very aggressiveness to it. It's not as forgiving as s2k and has very little room for error. 370z is no doubt faster than s2k in track, but I kinda feel more comfortable in a s2k because its a very fun car to drive while 370z is all serious

10-17-2013, 11:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
MadChemist Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 412 Drives: 2010 370ZR Rep Power: 12	I test drove the FRS prior to the 370z. The FRS handles well but has no power and the interior sucks. If price is an issue, just buy a used 370z for the same price as a new FRS plus you won't have to worry about the initial depreciation. critical likes this.

10-17-2013, 11:08 AM	#17 (permalink)
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jaedub Track Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 906 Drives: 2010 Black 370Z MT Rep Power: 304	My brother owns a s2k and I drive it all the time along with my 370z. With s2k, you can toss the car around and manhandle it with ease. It's quite forgiving. 370z has a very aggressiveness to it. It's not as forgiving as s2k and has very little room for error. 370z is no doubt faster than s2k in track, but I kinda feel more comfortable in a s2k because its a very fun car to drive while 370z is all serious Amuse370z likes this.

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